Youtube comments of libertas habet pretium (@mylovelyman2).
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@Trent Michael His kingdom was not of this world, he invited in the poor, the downcast, women, Samaritan outcasts, Romans and the gentiles into that Kingdom ( expressing the innate value of all men.) He opened his ministry with the words blessed are the poor in spirit and ended it with Father forgive them, for they know not what they do. When soldiers came to take Christ prisoner by force, the disciple Peter attempted to defend him by the Sword. Christ rebuked him, " for those who live by the Sword will die by the Sword." Finally he was brutally mutilated and nailed to a Roman Crucifix. The spread of Scripture does not support your Messianic interpretation of a political warrior king of the archetype of David, who would smite the enemies of God. A popular Jewish interpretation of Messiah. The word itself means, anointed one, to Save his people. You are correct in this, there are many verses that refer to a battle and conflict between two Kingdoms directly opposed to each other. There would indeed be violent spiritual skirmishes. Christ made it very clear what the weapons of warfare would be for those engaged in this conflict. " Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." Matt 5 verse 44.
Your Messianic interpretation is highly limited and ignores the spread of evidence, as cited above found in the New Testament. Indeed, it has been speculated that his rejection by the Jews was precisely because he did not live up to this expectation.
In conclusion, the spread of evidence supports Kurt's assertion, not your highly limited and relatively unsubstantiated view of Messiah. I would submit that it is your case that is lacking substantive evidence to support your claim.
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To understand the error of Bindel will take some unpacking. She is essentially a Schrodinger's Feminist. This is where she can be both the victim and the victor simultaneously, and then select whichever position is most expedient for a given situation. If she does well, she is the noble, independent woman who has been on a one woman crusade, if she fails or does badly, it is the oppressive patriarchy. Watch and listen very carefully, nowhere in her rhetoric is there the language or recognition of the sacrifice, love and hard work of men nor is there the recognition that women often do have full agency and with that agency they make heinous and terrible decisions. It is the gender version of heads I win, tails you lose. I would have loved to have heard Ayan push back and ask Julie to outline the lies she was so quick to accuse Robinson of. To me, courage, as C S Lewis put so well, " is the testing point of all virtues". There is one man in England who has been supremely courageous and he is in a prison cell.
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@Zackaria Aqal That is simply not correct. The word King and the word Owner mean different things, they are not necessarily interchangeable. I think if you are being honest, this is a fudge. Remember the claim of perfect preservation has been used by Muslim apologists as evidence of the Divine origin of the Quran.i e Its miraculous preservation over 14 centuries. Remember also, this is not an external standard, it was self imposed by Islam itself. You can no longer claim perfect preservation ( 100% fidelity has not been achieved) No one is arguing yet that these variants represent a challenge to doctrine, other than perfect preservation itself. However, it is pivotal because a major polemical argument advanced by Muslim debaters is the corruption of Torah and injil ( although, no evidence of this exists in Quran), thus the need for final revelation, correction and restoration, thus perfect preservation.
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Furthermore, these are always retroactive defences. They were never advanced at the time by Islamic scholars as reasons NOT to wage Jihad. So we get the hilarious situation where some of Islam's finest scholars did not understand these verses correctly, but answeringchristians.com does.
Consider Ibn Kalduhn speaking about Jihad.
“in the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or BY FORCE.” Islam is “under obligation to gain power over other nations.”*1.
And the Hanbali jurist Ibn Taymiyya (1263-1328) directed that “since lawful warfare is essentially jihad and since its aim is that the religion is God’s entirely and GOD'S WORD IS UPPERMOST, therefore according to all Muslims, those who stand in the way of this aim must be fought.” *2.
They fully understood what is meant by "fight those who don't believe....."
*1.Ibn Khaldun, The Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History, translated by Franz Rosenthal; edited and abridged by N. J. Dawood, (Princeton University Press, 1967), 183.
*2. Ibn Taymiyya, “Jihad,” in Rudolph Peters, Jihad in Classical and Modern Islam, (Markus Wiener Publishers, 1996), 49.
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MrChris201068 I have read it twice, along with the Biography of Mohammed and Reliance of the traveller. It is very much an Islamic problem and in 1400 years of Islamic history, it has been a sailient feature.
The Qur’an says straightforwardly that in addition to wives (“two or three or four”), Muslim men may enjoy the “captives of the right hand” (4:3, 4:24). These are specified as being women who have been seized as the spoils of war (33:50) and are to be used specifically for sexual purposes, as men are to “guard their private parts except from their wives or those their right hands possess.” (23:5–6). If these women are already married, no problem. Islamic law directs that “when a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.” *
*Al-Misri, Reliance of the Traveller, section o9.13.
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Fred Bloggs Fred Bloggs Fred Bloggs. Such a vitriolic tirade directed towards Tommy Robinson and such absolute assurance that you fully understand his motivations Fred. It is almost as if he has personally slandered you. You have expended huge amounts of energy to defame and vilify him and have not wasted a good deflection point. Yes, abuse exists in every area of society. Yet of the type I paedophillic abuse commited in Rochdale and greater Manchester area, Telford, Oxford, Leeds, Halifax, Newcastle, Bristol, leicester ( not even an exhaustive list) over 85% were South Asian ( Predominantly)Pakistani Muslim men, with the exception of 2 girls, the victims were teenage or younger white British females. Are you going to acknowledge this vile problem and ask why or are you going to deflect by making some vague reference to other areas of society or tell me Tommy Robinson forgot to fill out his tax return. You seem more concerned with the latter. I would ask why?
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