Comments by "TombWraith" (@Tomb-Wraith) on "Pro-Vaccine vs Anti-Vaccine: Should Your Kids Get Vaccinated? | Middle Ground" video.

  1. He frames it that way because he's on the verge of losing his medical license.
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  2. Its like they think juvenile arthritis doesn't exist...
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  3. @Bong Valo You can ask for the insert and it must be given to you under federal law. And no, there are plenty of independent studies on vaccines. Guess what? Nearly everything in most vaccines are either produced naturally by the body, or something you come into contact with naturally.
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  4. From the ones I talked to, no. They think this COVID thing is from vaccines and 5G towers.
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  5. He is anti-vaccine, and may lose his license because of it.
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  6. And may lose it if these recent cases are found to be true.
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  7.  @keishasims3192  Oh yes they do. All the time actually. She didn't lose a child to a vaccine, or it would have made national headlines. I'm not saying she may not have lost a child. But not to a vaccine.
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  8.  @joshako  You can just google Bob Sears probation. He may have violated his probation and if he has, he will lose his license.
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  9.  @keishasims3192  Thats a lie. No one has died as a result of a vaccine in the US since 1990.
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  10. I hope you're joking...
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  11. Yes. Yes they should.
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  12. Those children are taken away because not vaccinating your child without proper exemption is abusive and neglectful. If you believe your child may have a reaction, have an open conversation with your doctor and take the proper steps to exempt them. If you're just refusing vaccines because you buy into conspiracy theories, you should not have children. That makes you an unfit parent.
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  13. There's a difference between questioning something, and spreading verifiably false information.
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  14. Tell that to those of us who were born with compromised immune system. "Natural" doesn't mean "good".
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  15. When your "opinions" are actively harmful, there is no reason to respect them. Thinking something is "best" doesn't make you right.
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  16. No, he's anti-vax. He may sound like he's only for informed consent here, but that's because he was on medical probation for falsifying vaccine documentation. I'm all for informed consent by the way, before you write me off. Vaccines do not protect you from getting the virus. They prevent serious complications. Were you yourself vaccinated? Just curious.
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  17. Why we are prenteding like everyone's immune system is healthy and capable of functioning?
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  18.  @rxpilld4135  It absolutely is true. Including things like formaldehyde. But I don't expect you to understand, since you see a chemical word and assume bad.
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  19.  @kinw5548  You can have the right to say no. But that decision comes with consequences.
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  20.  @maxxypad8097  Okay. Now I know you're a troll.
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  21. There is though. Its literally called "vaccine court."
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  22.  @lemongirl3846  He may not have been here. But thats because he was on probation for falsifying vaccine information.
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  23. If a decision is actively harmful, it absolutely should be ridiculed. This is a matter of public health. To deny vaccines is to actively cause harm. That is NOT your right.
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  24. Vaccines do not protect you from getting a virus. They simply allow your immune system to have a heard start. Unvaccinated people are a risk to not only those who can't be vaccinated, but allowing the spread increases a chance of a mutation, one that a vaccine may not cover. They're not zombies, but they risk carrying illness longer than a vaccinated person. And thats never fun for anyone.
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  25.  @sangovere777  I agree that vaccines can have side effects, and when its shown that it is indeed a vaccine, that family should be compensated and that vaccine looked into
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  26. He is currently on probation and is not practicing after falsifying documents withholding children from vaccines.
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  27. Umm no? No it doesn't. If you have autism, nothing triggers it. It just develops as you get older. You're either born with mental illness, or you develop it through trauma.
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  28. You are under no legal obligation to vaccinate. However, certain privileges may be denied to you if you choose not to without medical exemption.
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  29.  @rxpilld4135  Aluminum is an ingredient you eat on a consistent basis. Everyone has amounts of aluminum in them, which can be found in blood, bone, feces and urine. Mercury has not been used in vaccines since 1996. Thimerosal, the mercury compound, has not been used in most vaccines since 2001. It is still available in some luve strains of the flu vaccine, but is harmless. I understand that sometimes, vaccines cause complications. That is why they are pulled from the market. The studies you see are that these conditions that used to be a death sentence have been eradicated for the most part. I'm all for informed consent. I'm all for denying a vaccine if you don't want it. But you absolutely can be danger to society, and that should be monitored.
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  30. Then you should not be allowed certain privileges.
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  31.  @kinw5548  Sorry, but that's a fact. No one has died directly from a vaccine that could be directly linked to a specific vaccine since 1990. There are a lot of people who like to blame deaths on vaccines though.
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  32.  @sexyroach  Because you actively did something that you knew was harmful. I know a woman serving 20 years for negligent homicide because she refused to give her daughter the chicken pox vaccine, which she ultimately died from. You should be prepared to face those consequences should you choose not to vaccinate.
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  33.  @A2goddess  Where do you live that requires you to show proof you are vaccinated?
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  34.  @maxxypad8097  Oh? Arsenic is natural. Would you agree that that's good for the body?
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  35. All medications can have adverse side effects
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  36.  @sethexd1904  You're just as bad and uneducated then. You would not be able to keep something like that secret. The child did not die of a vaccine. SIDS, AS, positional suffocation, a brain hemmorage. All of these are common causes of death in infants. This message is harmful, and she should be ashamed for spreading lies and misinformation. Yes, vaccines can and have harmed people. So can opioids, penicillin, keppra, food and seatbelts.
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  37.  @keishasims3192  Then my advice to you would be to not believe everything you are told. I'm sure the baby died, but to believe it was a vaccine just because thats what you were told is foolish.
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  38.  @keishasims3192  Yes it is. Because its untrue. And I'm sorry, but you're delusional if you believe that. What exactly in vaccines do you think would have killed them?
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  39. Thats because most of these diseases had been wiped out by vaccines, nutrition and sanitation. And most people around you are immunized, so you're less likely to come into contact with these viruses. By the way, you have been sick. You've just never been severely sick.
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  40. No medication is safe for everyone.
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  41. I highly doubt that story. If that was the case, I would love to see news articles about that, because it certainly would have been published. I am absolutely not for mandated vaccines. You should just be held responsible for any harm you cause. But to make up a story to try and spin a false narrative is just sick.
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  42.  @kaleez4544  Chriopractors technically aren't doctors. They don't go to medical school.
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  43. Vaccines do not make you immune. Vaccines can help you fight off a condition, and spare you from complications. Unvaccinated individuals are a vector for mutations, thus allowing no one to have any type of immunity.
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  44. Its simply because that doesn't happen. Yes, some children may have bad reactions to vaccines, but just because something happens to your child around the time they got a vaccine does not mean a vaccine caused it. I get angry because people ignore science and medicine.
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  45.  @sangovere777  No one has died directly from a vaccine since 1990. I absolutely believe vaccines can have side effects. I absolutely believe people can and have been hurt by them. But I also believe that people have a tendency to blame vaccines because of correlation when it is not the vaccine's fault.
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  46.  @sangovere777  The problem with suing a manufacture is it prevents them from making other products that a person might need, as most companies don't just make vaccines. I think the vaccine court should look into potential cases a little more thoroughly.
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  47. Why wouldn't we? Getting vaccinated for COVID is important.
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  48. There's...no reason to take the malaria vaccine if you have not been exposed to malaria...
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  49. That is a complete and utter lie. Bob Sears made false documents claiming medical exemptions about children to prevent them from getting vaccines and is currently on probation. In July, he was accused of doing this again and if found to be true, will lose his medical license. I am all for informed consent, but these people advocate against most vaccines for all children on the grounds that someone they know had a bad reaction.
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  50. No. No it doesn't. Any more than a sick infant being put on IB medication interferes with the development of the immune system.
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  51. It doesn't matter what your opinion is when it contradicts facts. You get many at one time so your body gets a head start when you are very younf and more likely to develop severe complications, because you have no developed immune system. If you're saying you should have a choice, then you aren't anti-vax. Anti-vaxxers are people who are outright against most or all vaccines and claim they harm people. You know why we get angry? Because that choice you make has potentially FATAL consequences for OTHER PEOPLE. You not being vaccinated puts people like me at risk. That said, do I think vaccines should be mandatory? No. But I certainly think you should have certain privileges revoked, and should be held liable criminally/financially for any damage you cause.
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  52. Why do we care? Because not being vaccinated puts other people at risk. Sure, it should be their choice. But they should have their privileges restricted.
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  53. Adverse reactions are not underreported. The problem is people jump to assumptions. Every label for every medication has the verified risks. I absolutely agree that it should be a choice, but you're not being gaslit. You're being told the truth.
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  54. None of their children were put in "life threatening" situations because of a vaccine. They had a scary bad reaction. That's awful. But these women preach that NO ONE should be vaccinated. Thats dangerous and uninformed.
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  55. We're critical because these people are objectively wrong. There's nothing wrong with questioning doctors. That's why people get second opinions. There is a problem with spreading misinformation and lies, and downright refusing decades of proven research.
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  56. Diseases have disappeared due to many factors, including access the healthcare, better drinking water and nutrition and vaccines. Polio is spread through contaminated food and water. These diseases gradually went away after sanitation picked up and vaccines were made available. By the way, we do vaccinate against cholera (dukoral). Scarlet fever isn't a virus. Its caused by the same bacteria that causes strep throat. However, these diseases are now returning in areas, despite sanitation and nutrition. Thats because people don't vaccinate.
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  57. He also had his medical license suspended and may have it revoked because of his anti vaccine stance. He tempered his language here because he was on probation.
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  58. Not everyone in places like Africa has acess to hygiene products we have in the western world. Vaccines are just another step in protecting yourself against deadly diseases.
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  59.  @kinw5548  No one has died from a vaccine in almost 30 years.
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  60.  @sexyroach  I understand and agree with that. In no way do I believe that the government should mandate vaccines. However, you should be held accountable for your actions. By the way, as far as harmful toxins and carcinogens, that's just untrue. There is nothing in vaccines you are not exposed to every day or that the body doesn't produce naturally. Yes. Her cause of death was pneumonia caused by the chicken pox virus. Something she would have been able to recover from should her mother had decided to allow treatment. While I doubt you'll find much information on her, the girl's name was Rachel Fawley. She died in 2002 if memory serves me.
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  61. Except you could potentially be a danger to others. I believe in your right to choose, but you should be held accountable criminally and financially if you hurt someone.
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  62.  @A2goddess  Damn. I've never had to show my card
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  63.  @scottpe6226  He did falsify documents. He claimed children had medical exemptions from vaccines that they DID NOT have and there was no evidence for. That is gross negligence. Yes there is because he did the same thing in June of 2019 while still on probation. If it is found to be true that he faked medical exemption from vaccines, then his license will be revoked because he violated his probation.
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  64. What you think doesn't make it reality. There is NOTHING in vaccines that you don't consume or that your body doesn't naturally produce. Autism is a genetic disorder. It has nothing to do with vaccines. Your child will either have or not have autism on the day its born. Do you know what vaccines are for? They're to try and protect you against complications. HPV can cause cervical and ovarian cancer, two of the worst cancers a woman can get that are nearly always untreatable if caught late. What difference does it make? How about children that can't be vaccinated? How about risk of new strains, like the coronavirus that now nobody is vaccinated against? You being vaccinated doesn't prevent you from getting a virus.
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  65. They're not that bad compared to the alternative. The odds of having a seizure from the MMR vaccine: 1 in 3000. The odds of developing acute encephalitis, which can cause death or permanent brain damage, after contracting measles: 1 in 400.
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  66. How awful it is to protect against fatal complications...
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  67.  @keishasims3192  "No one would lie about a baby dying". There are thousands of people in jail for fraud for stealing money from people by telling them their baby was dead.
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  68.  @keishasims3192  I don't doubt the story about the child dying. And I'm truly sorry for that. But to assume vaccines is just grief blaming. Its sad that the child died, but claiming vaccines was the cause is absurd and reckless. Because its simply untrue.
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  69.  @keishasims3192  Could be a number of things. I'd need more information. Symptoms, age, sex, cause of death etc. In order to file a death certificate, you HAVE to disclose a cause of death. That child has an offical cause of death.
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  70. Safe vaxxer would imply that they do agree with vaccination, but they just want people to look at potential risks. That does not describe these people. These people want to outright stop vaccines period, and try to make health claims that are blatently untrue, not to get people to think, but to make people afraid. That is not okay. People who are just skeptical of vaccines, would like them spread out, would like more testing, or just would prefer not to vaccinate themselves are not anti vaxxers.
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  71. Every medication you take can and does have side effects. The side effects from vaccines are not nearly as severe as other medications, and are certainly less severe than the symptoms of the diseases they protect from. The problem with your statement is your stance actively can and has harmed people. We have lost both our polio and measles free status because people were not being vaccinated. Pertussius is also reappearing. I'm not saying you should be mandated to get vaccines, but I fully support your children being refused access to public schools, and you should be prosecuted should you hurt someone.
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  72. Its not fair that innocent people have to be at risk for potentially fatal complications that can easily be eliminated. Sorry if that seems unfair to you.
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  73. There are decades of testing and research into vaccines. But, like all medications, they can, and do, cause side effects.
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  74. Because vaccines do not protect you from getting the virus, they can mutate if your unvaccinated, and you risk those who cannot get vaccinated. There have been decades of research put into vaccines. No amount of evidence will convince you.
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  75. If your boyfriend told you that his sibling died of a vaccine complication, I would like to know details, because no one has died from a vaccine that could be proven in almost 30 years. That leads me to believe he is a liar. The majority around them being vaccinated is precisely the reason they are healthy and fine. But they put you and others at risk. If it is true that his sibling had a reaction, then those specific cases should be exempt. But I will promise you his sibling did not die from a vaccine. If you choose not to vaccinate, fine. You should have that right. But you should be denied certain privileges, like public activities and school, and should be held criminally and financially responsible should your child be harmed or harm someone else.
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  76. Its because they claim that vaccines harmed their child, without any confirmation they did. They don't even acknowledge other possibilities and insist that IF IT DID harm their child, they advocate against others getting it.
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  77. No fetal tissue has been used in vaccines since the two cell lines that produced the original cultures. That was back in the 1960s. Get your facts straight.
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  78.  @orawolfgram2838  Yep.
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  79.  @spankinrainbows1587  He wasn't on probation at the time this was filmed.
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  80. You do not suddenly develop autism because you have a vaccine. You're either born with it, or your not. If you're doctor is only treating your symptoms, find another doctor. They're humans. They're falliable. But most of them want to help. The aborted fetal tissue is going on 60 years old. Its not like its being taken every year from aborted fetuses. Oh, and by the way. Your God isn't against abortion. Might wanna reread your Bible. You are potentially a public safety issue if you aren't vaccinated. You pose a risk to other people.
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  81. There is literally an insert on every vaccination that is legally required to tell you what's in that vaccine, along with potential risks. Ask for it.
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  82. Doctors have to make a living like all people do. I don't do my job for the sole purpose of getting paid however. I do my job to help people. You don't work your ass off for 10+ year unless you want to help.
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  83. No where in America is physician negligence in even the top 10 causes of death. Heart disease is 1st followed by cancer. You can eat as healthy as you want, and you can still get sick and have medical problems. Get educated please.
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  84. Because you are a vector for a mutation. If a virus mutates, suddenly no one is protected. Thats how pandemics can start. Yes, it should be your right. But you should also face consequences and lose certain privileges.
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  85. Way to prove you know nothing about how vaccines work.
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  86. Anyone who makes everything about race and legitimately believes that the majority of the medical and criminal justice community want to do them harm has severe paranoia and should seek professional help.
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  87.  @scottpe6226  There has never been any evidence linking vaccines to auto immune diseases, and its vile of you to spread that. I have lupus. Its genetic, like other auto immune diseases. The only thing a vaccine could potentially do is trigger it. It doesn't give you a condition you don't have.
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  88.  @UltraAar  It can't cause Autism. Autism is genetic. If your family members have autism, they had it before they were born. Correlation does not equal causation. Many signs of autism develop early, and symptoms show around the time people get vaccines. But there are many people who aren't vaccinated that have autism and many who are that don't. Your simply wrong.
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  89.  @UltraAar  Gender is a spectrum because its a social construct. And its not a hugely broad spectrum. In can range from low functioning (non-verbal) to high functioning (social autism). I know 2 people in my life, other than myself, with an autism spectrum disorder. Funny enough? Neither were vaccinated before their diagnosis. In one sentence? "A social and communication disorder"
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  90. Get them every time I need one. Don't personally know anyone who doesn't. I thought that was just normal.
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  91.  @glitchyjoe64  I have autism. Its a genetic disorder.
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  92. Then it would make more sense for doctors to be anti-vaccine. Since they would make MORE MONEY off people being sick then the FREE vaccines.
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  93.  @scottpe6226  Vaccines have never been linked to an increased risk of an autoimmune or metabolic disease. There is also nothing in vaccines that could be harmful that you either don't eat, or your body naturally makes. There's also never been a link between cancer and vaccines.
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  94. Instead of blaming vaccines, how about blame the true culprit? Environment and genetics. Sorry, but the evidence does not back up vaccines lowering the immune system long term. Its sad that you're proud of child neglect and stupidity. Hope you rot in prison like several other parents whose children died to preventable diseases.
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  95. Smallpox, Polio, Plague being wiped out isn't evidence enough for you? The fact that some diseases have been completely eradicated doesn't show you? Then you're beyond hope.
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  96.  @mariopellegrino7661  Regardless if its rare, it happens. No vaccine should be mandatory, but all vaccines should be taken if capable. Thank you.
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  97. Yep.
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  98. But you also know you're being disingenuous. No one is talking about those who do not take vaccines because of medical or religious reasons. We are speaking to those who refuse the vaccine because of false claims about it, though I still think they have a right to not be vaccinated.
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  99. As a Med student, a whole year was spent on pharmacology and vaccines. They know what they're talking about. I agree that honest doctors will admit they don't have all the answers. But the evidence is clear
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  100.  @scottpe6226  I'm not even going for traditional medicine so I HAD one year. A few of my friends had 10 semesters of pharmacology classes. Its more of a pharmacists job to be informed with vaccine safety since they supply the vaccines. But I agree doctors should be as informed as they can
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  101.  @philsteinberg6985  The only vaccine video I have ever commented on is this one. I would love to know what lies I have been spreading.
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  102. And thats considering NO ONE has died from the flu shot.
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  103. Vaxxed is not a documentary. Its conspiracy theory nonsense.
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  104. The hate comes from the fact that they place blame on vaccines where there may be none. Instead of even considering that it might be qnything else, they jump straight to vaccines. And they encourage others to not get vaccinated, which is harmful.
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  105. That isn't the vaccines fault. I was vaccinated but have an autoimmune disorder and an immunodeficiency. I get sick no matter what comes. Its just the way my body is. Vaccines can boost your immune system and train your body to respond should that disease come, but it is not a preventative.
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  106.  @michaelanderson9914  There's a large list. Let's name some of the worst. Tetnus Rubella Meningitis Polio West Nile
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  107. Seizures suck, but they aren't usually life threatening.
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  108.  @piabarbieri6539  The last person to die of a measles complication was in 2015 in the United States.
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  109. Mercury is not used in vaccines. Some live strains of the flu vaccine uses thimerosal, which is a mercury compund. Its a type lf ethylmercury, which is HARMLESS to humans. Methylmercury is toxic in high enough doses. Autism is genetic. If you are autistic, you will have it from birth.
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  110.  @what6233  That's because vaccines weaken the immune system temporarily. I'm not concerned because I know why it happens. You cannot get the flu from the vaccine. It's a dead virus. However, it does compromise the immune system. Being unvaccinated makes you more likely to develop severe side effects from the disease the vaccine was developed for, because your body has not had a chance to build up antibodies. No one dies from the flu. You can, however, or a secondary infection caused by the flu, especially if you are already sick, very young, very old, or immuno-compromised. The most common cause of death is pneumonia. Again, the flu mutates easily, and a vaccine may not be able to protect you should you get a strain that is new. I don't believe you understand how vaccines or mutations work.
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  111. The issue is people not putting the trust in people who go to school for 10+ years to help you. All medicine can have side effects, and they need to be taken seriously. The risk vs reward system also needs to be taken seriously, and misinformation concerning vaccines HAS to stop.
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  112.  @amanabookclub4198  Glad you have respect for people that literally can and do cause harm to other people.
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  113. Its literally not just Americans.
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  114. The last death confirmed to be because of a vaccine directly was in 1991. That was almost 30 years ago. You may have a bad reaction to the vaccines for multiple reasons. You may also feel sick because vaccines introduce the virus to you.
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  115.  @ritadavison4857  You can literally look up medical articles. The last recorded death that was scientifically proven to be directly caused by a vaccine was in 1991. What you try to do is link correlation and causation.
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  116. You out of tinfoil with all those hats you're making?
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  117. Correlation does not equal causation
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  118. He's anti. And he lost his medical license because of it
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  119. These people don't just question vaccines. They actively spread lies that they are harmful.
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  120. Because she automatically attributes her allergy to the vaccine and then advocates other people don't get it.
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  121. Like anything else, medicines can have side effects. But its a risk vs benefit standpoint. Parents do not know the makeup and anatomy of a child more than a doctor who studied for 8 years and then did 2-3 years residency.
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  122. Both of these comments are absolutely not true. Any GOOD doctor or nurse will tell you exactly what is in vaccines or allow you to read the insert and will educate you on what they do to both the vaccine and their purpose. Not only that, this knowledge is easily found online. If you don't feel comfortable, do your own research. And if you choose not to vaccinate, fine. That should be your liberty. But do not get angry when you are denied certain privilages, nor complain for any criminal or financial problems arise should you not vaccinate and someone dies or gets hurt.
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  123. Unless you had a necropsy done on him and cam 100% confirm it was the vaccine that caused your dogs death, you are meerly jumping to conclusions. By the way, if that story was true, it would be all ove media. I'm sorry, but I think you're seeing something that isn't there.
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  124. Except one is actively causing harm and the other you just don't agree with.
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  125. They do recognize that people have reactions to them and it impacts their lives. The problem is just then jumping to the conclusion that a) the vaccine is what harmed you in the first place and b) advocating against people taking vaccines based on your bad reaction. You shouldn't acknowledge or accept anything without evidence that the thing occured. And there are definitely lies spread by the people here because they are looking for something to blame.
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  126. Or they clearly know that this specific pediatrician had his medical license revoked for negligence and is no longer practicing.
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  127.  @virtuoso7811  Ummm no. Thats actually not how medical school works at all. Someone who is trained in a specialized medicine, such as pediatrics, will simply not be educated in the same way another specialist would. I am currently in medical school. But my field of speciality and my education path is vastly different from anyone not in my course. I agree they should not be mandatory. However, you should then be accepting of the costs that come with choosing not to vaccinate. I have no idea what "increased risks" you're referring to.
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  128.  @virtuoso7811  Actually it did. He falsely provided medical exemptions from vaccines that a child was not entitled to. Not only does that violate FEDERAL law, he potentially could have caused damage to hundreds of children should that child have contracted something. You apparently didn't do any research into why he actually lost his license. He actively did endager people by exempting people from vaccines who were not eligible. It wasn't as simple as "be responsible about vaccinations". He also actively claimed that vaccinating your children put them more at a risk for developing auto-immune disorders, autism and ADHD, something science and medicine has COMPLETELY debunked.
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  129.  @virtuoso7811  My specific track has nothing to do with immunology. I'm not in medical school for traditional medicine. We have had decades of research into vaccines and nothing has ever linked them to mental illness. They do not stay in the body that long. Thats why boosters exist. Have you maybe considered the reason we have seen growth in mental illness is because of the vast amount of research and the decreasing amount of stigma around it? We do know. Autism is genetic. If a child is autistic, it will be autistic at birth. They just may not show symptoms because autism is a spectrum. I didn't find out I was on the autism spectrum until I was almost 20. The fact remains that in almost 50 years of research, we have never found a link between vaccines and autism. And everyone who has tried to claim that have been completely discredited and sometimes jailed or fined.
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  130.  @virtuoso7811  My opinion will change when that evidence is found. Right now there is no link. And to deny the good that vaccines have done because of what may occur (but as of yet hasn't) is like saying not to wear a seatbelt because it could break your ribs if you have an accident. Its a risk vs reward system and unfortunately, everything has risks. Including vaccines. The question should be are those risks worth it? And with vaccines, they definitely are.
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  131.  @virtuoso7811  Because its genetic. Not hereditary. Genes can mutate. And how do you know your lineage has no autism in it? You don't. Autism, as with most mental illnesses, were all grouped together not even 60 years ago. It was unheard of because anyone with mental illness was simply classified as crazy. It was only when people actually starting trying to look at the finer details that mental illnesses were catagorized. And with spectrum disorders, many people will fall under a broad umbrella with specialized traits. Its really not that complicated.
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  132.  @virtuoso7811  The fact that you believe that already shows how uneducated you are. Its natural that as more research into the human brain works, the more knowledge we will gain about how it can and does act differently. Quit treating mental illness like its a bad thing. Its not. You probably have it yourself and you certainly know someone who does.
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  133.  @virtuoso7811  But you do believe that, because you just said you know that the spike in mental health had to do with something we encounter on a daily basis, which there is no evidence for. It is impossible to live life free of beliefs entirely. I'm sorry your brother does that. He should be recieving counseling for that. Autism can be hard, but it doesn't have to rule your life. You should tell him there is no such thing as normal. Everyone is their own person, and "normal" by definition just means sane. In fact, those without mental illness are the minority. Talk to him.
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  134.  @virtuoso7811  I would like to see evidence of that because that sounds entirely made up. The CDC has stated more than once on record that it has found no link between autism and vaccines. Because it can't. Nothing in vaccines can cause a genetic disorder. This has already been proven. I am curious to know what anti-vaxxers think vaccines are.
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  135.  @virtuoso7811  And yet, nothing has been successful. Because its a genetic birth defect. The spike in autism comes from the simple fact that much more is known about it, it is a spectrum, and it is not as stigmatized as it once was. Mental illness was not delt with in the 50's. We were still lobotomizing people with mental illness back then. It was not okay to be mentally ill. It was always there. It simply was not diagnosed or talked about.
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  136. Your sibling and cousin didn't "get" autism. They were born with autism. It is a genetic disorder you will have at birth. Your aunt may have had a reaction to something in the flu vaccine, but seziures from vaccines are usually temporary. If its continued, I would look into all possibilities.
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  137. They have. He can no longer practice.
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  138.  @rxpilld4135  Clearly you don't. Would you like me to list what is in most vaccines?
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  139.  @rxpilld4135  Then tell me what ingredients you don't think you come into contact with that you're so scared of.
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  140.  @rxpilld4135  I literally stated that I understand that sometimes, vaccines can be unsafe. And they should be recalled and tested. That is not the point. The point is that the fact that harmful effects can and do occur should not be the only determining factor in getting a vaccine. There are safety problems with every medication. So I guess just stop taking medicine huh? By the way, you are citing one vaccine. A vaccine that also has been shown to prevent horrible cancers. I understand that the harm caused can't be overlooked, and that is why it was pulled. Most vaccines do not behave that way.
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  141.  @RealTalkChristina  No, nearly all vaccines are dead. In fact, the only regularly used live vaccine is some flu vaccines. So if you really believe that, your wrong from the get go. You can have reactions to vaccines. But mental health problems are almost entirely genetic. You'll have them regardless of whether you have vaccines. And we keep up to date on shots because they can come back. These viruses can and do come back. You don't need a shot. I'm not saying go get vaccinated. I'm not even for mandates. But you ARE a risk. That's all. You are an adult, so you should make your own decisions. You should also be responsible for any harm you cause to other people.
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  142. Several reasons. 1) It may not have been CP. 2) Mutations happen. 3) You didn't have your boosters.
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  143. Judy Mikovits is not a medical doctor and never has been, and has been discredited entirely. She is a lying scam artist who faced 2 felony counts and was able to settle a lawsuit out of court. But please, continue to claim that she is this beacon of health.
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  144.  @scottpe6226  Risks vs Benefit. Do what you think is right. But be prepared to take responsibility for that decision.
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  145.  @kinw5548  They are being decided by the parents choices. No doctor forces you to vaccinate. But when you lose access to things like public schooling, thats on you.
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  146. I highly doubt you know what vaccines contain. Because if you did, or had any background in chemistry, you would know how dosages and chemical composition works. The only ignorant one is you.
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  147. We do have a safety net. Its called vaccine court. If you really were a victim of a vaccine, which does occur, you seek compensation. If you did have a severe reaction to a vaccine, it did not give you arthritis. You have juvenile arthritis. That is a genetic condition. No link between JA and vaccines. You having a painful childhood had nothing to do with vaccines. It had to do with your genetics.
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  148. The autsim rates are rising because we now know what it is and that its a spectrum. There are plenty of reasons to go vaccinated.
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  149.  Sam Yaza  No one is forcing you to get vaccinated.
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  150. Nobody is mandating vaccines. But you should be held accountable if you hurt someone.
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  151. You apparently not only don't know how vaccines work, but do not know how vectors or virus mutations work.
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  152. Its almost as if all the evidence shows that they do.
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  153. Thats okay. He's on probation and is up for losing his medicl license. He's currently not practicing.
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  154.  @scottpe6226  Not according to his offical site. He took a break from practicing, though his clinic is still running, while he sorts out the hit water he's landed himself in. He falsified documents to claim children had medical conditions that prevented them from being vaccinated. He was put on on 35 month probation and now a case has been filied in June of this year that he was supposedly doing it again. If found to be true, he violated his probation and will lose his medical license. Do some research.
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  155.  @showmercytoothers4059  That is a such a strawman...
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  156. And what problems does it exactly create?
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  157. Mercury has not been used in most vaccines since 1996. Some strains of the flu vaccine still use thimerosal, but this mercury compound is harmless. Tin has never been used in vaccines. Aluminum is as an adjuvant is some, and you consume aluminum on a daily basis. You're alive because the majority of people around you are vaccinated.
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  158. No one had died from a vaccine in the states in nearly 30 years and rarely is anyone crippled permanently. You may suffer side effects, just like all medications. By your logic ALL MEDICATION should be destroyed. There is no medicine out there that has never harmed ANYONE. Also, while there is a correlation between certain diseases and vaccines, there is almost never casuation. You're simply a troll looking for attention. I've given it to you. Go back to your bridge.
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  159. Vaccines have nothing to do with an infant mortality rate, nor do we have the higest infant mortality rate of any first world country. No one has died from a vaccine in 30 years.
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  160.  Tim Account  Someone had a complication that was fatal. She died because her selfish mother refused to give her an injection that would have saved her life. And that woman is now serving a 25 year prison sentence. I'm not saying don't do your research. But you should and will be held accountable for your actions when they have negative consequences.
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  161. Also interesting to see how the meseals outbreaks started in non-vaccinated communities. Can't imagine why that is. And lets be fair. You should read the inserts on ALL medications.
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  162. There are decades of studies. Do some real research.
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  163. Its literally on the insert.
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  164. There has never been evidence to show any connection between the flu vaccine and narcolepsy. It's far more likely that he has an auto-immune condition that was triggered by the flu vaccine. Narcolepsy occurs when the immune system mistakenly attacks parts of the brain that produce hypopcretin, which is the chemical that regulates sleep. Autism is a genetic disorder. The boy was born with autism. However, most people with more severe forms of autism show around the time they get vaccinated. He would have had autism regardless of whether or not he had gotten the MMR vaccine. The reason the NHS denied these cases is because their problems simply weren't caused by a vaccine. Yes, sometimes vaccines can have side effects. But we cannot blame them for things they didn't cause.
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  165.  @emilie3657  Yes they do. I'm not sure where you live, but vaccine cases are taken ver seriously over here in the states. That's why we have a vaccine court in place. Correlation does not equal causation. I understand wanting to find something to blame, but in many cases, there is nothing to blame it on. I doubt they "get rid of evidence." There is no evidence to begin with. But people don't like not knowing why their child is suddenly different. They want a scapegoat. I'm sorry, but no. A mother doesn't know her child best especially not when it comes to their anatomy and physiology. And its not weird when you actually know about the disease in question, such as autism. You won't show signs until a certain period. That's how autism works. And for people who know that, it makes perfect sense. The vaccine triggering an auto-immune condition isn't abnormal either. It also isn't fair to say it's the vaccines fault. Because its not. That would be the auto-immune disease's fault. Vaccines don't bring in a lot of money. In fact, they tend to lose money. Being skeptic is never a bad thing, but blaming vaccines is not the answer. Talk to your doctor. They's there to help.
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  166. Where are you getting 6 months? The earliest realease is 18 months and it could take longer.
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  167. Getting a vaccine doesn't necessarily mean you will never get the virus. It just allows your body to be able to fight off the virus. By the way, you probably had shingles if you were vaccinated, which is caused by the varicella virus. Pretty much "adult chickenpox".
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  168.  @rockbeauty3439  We have a prototype Ebola vaccine now.
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  169. Thats a flat out lie. Autism is genetic. Your child will have it before birth.
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  170. Medical malpractice isn't even in the top 10 leading causes of death. Get real.
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  171. Vaccines have chemicals in it just like all other medications. I'm sorry, but no matter how good your diet is, you'll still get sick at some point. And vaccines actually do prevent the condition from spreading rapidly and also protect from the complications that come with these illnesses, some of them fatal.
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  172.  @shelbymorimoto371  One off seizures are a side effect of some vaccines. The "one in million" is the odds of having a reaction. The 1 in 3000 is the odds of that reaction being a seizure. I have TBIE. I suffer seizures on a daily basis. And they suck. But wanna know another fun fact? The odds of developing encephalitis from measles is 1 in 400. The odds of dying from encephalitis? 1 in 175. Its called risk vs. reward.
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  173.  @crystalsky1029  Thats why we have a vaccine court. They do not make vaccines. They simply adminster them.
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  174.  @crystalsky1029  100% agree. Do your own research. Sometimes doctors are wrong. I'm sorry your son was a victim.
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  175. Yes he is. And he lost his license because of it. He just doesn't seem like it here because he was on probation and tempered his language.
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  176. Yeah...the issue isn't mortality. Its that Covid-19 leaves permanent damage to those who get it.
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  177.  @r.d.whitaker5787  Nobody has died from a vaccine in the first world since 1990.
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  178.  @r.d.whitaker5787  There is no study for this. This is how many people claimed the vaccine killed someone. There has been no medical link between a vaccine and a death in 30 years. But keep up with the conspiracy theories.
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  179.  @r.d.whitaker5787  No you didn't. You inferred that from what you read on the CDC website. But if you continued reading, it says "Rare cases where a known or plausible theoretical risk of death following vaccination exists include anaphylaxis, vaccine-strain systemic infection after administration of live vaccines to severely immunocompromised persons, intussusception after rotavirus vaccine, Guillain-Barré syndrome after inactivated influenza vaccine, fall-related injuries associated with syncope after vaccination, yellow fever vaccine-associated viscerotropic disease or associated neurologic disease, serious complications from smallpox vaccine including eczema vaccinatum, progressive vaccinia, postvaccinal encephalitis, myocarditis, and dilated cardiomyopathy, and vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis from oral poliovirus vaccine. However, making general assumptions and drawing conclusions about vaccinations causing deaths based on spontaneous reports to VAERS – some of which might be anecdotal or second-hand – or case reports in the media, is not a scientifically valid practice." That was right after the statistic concerning the MMR vaccine.
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  180.  @r.d.whitaker5787  Except no. People have attributed deaths because of other conditions. These are conditions that are not caused by vaccines. No MMR vaccine is going to give you cardiomyopathy, but can exasberate a condition you already have. That is NOT the vaccines fault.
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  181. Mercury is natural. Cyanide is natural. Arsenic is natural. Natural doesn't necessarily mean good for you. Its not that it came from nothing. Its that we know way more about it now.
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  182. Because lets not look at the ingredients in context to each other or what we're using it for and pretend that any small amount is lethal. There is nothing in most vaccines you are not exposed to on a daily basis or your body doesn't naturally produce.
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  183. Maybe because people against vaccines are hazardous to society.
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  184. Vitamins do nothing to protect you against viruses and bacteria. They can, however, help a struggling immune system or an immune system that is lacking.
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  185. You didn't almost die from the vaccine.
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  186. It didn't. Because vaccines do not cause epilepsy. You're either born with it or suffer it from a TBI. Vaccines occasionally may give you one off seizures when first given. This is not chronic.
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  187. Yo, imagine actually believing that vaccines give you arthritis and seizures?
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  188.  @silentstorm2797  Mercury stopped being used in vaccines in 1996. Thimerosal is still used, which is a harmless mercury compound. As far as aluminum, the amount you get is so small that is can't harm you. You ingest aluminum from drinking out of a can or eating things like canned tuna. The AMOUNT matters.
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  189.  @unoverso1446  Lets also just forget the fact that nearly all vaccines phased out thimerosal in 1996. Only a few flu vaccines still contain it.
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  190.  @scottpe6226  The fact that he lost his medical license after having it suspended for being anti-vaccine says it all.
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  191.  @michaelanderson9914  Which no one is forcing you to do from a legal perspective.
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  192.  @michaelanderson9914  And believe it or not, that is a minority. I am pro-vaccine. But if you don't want to vaccinate your children, fine. But you should also be held responsible for any damage done
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  193.  @billjohns1306  No, I don't have a personal axe to grind. Your original comment is misleading and can spread a bad message because you are only going by what you see in an edited video, as opposed to what the people in the video actually say outside of a huge public platform. You are downplaying the risks anti vaxxers pose, and thats not okay. I was simply trying to point that out to you.
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  194. Because there is no logic in trying to understand or feel for a side that actively harms people.
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  195.  @scottpe6226  All doctors believe vaccines can cause injury. Because all medication can cause injury. Should a person who is diabetic not take insulin because insulin can cause hives, blood sugar issues, and potential organ problems?
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  196.  @scottpe6226  Yes, and you're still wrong. Its not the disease thats the issue. Its the complications the disease develops. One of my best friends died from chicken pox and she was perfectly healthy. And that wasn't even 20 years ago.
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  197. You can thank vaccines and sanitation for that.
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  198. First of all, vaccine companies do suffer repercussions for things that go wrong. You clearly do not know how vaccine court works or why you can't directly sue the manufacturer. Secondly, vaccines go through years of trials sometimes. The standards that a vaccine must meet to hit the market is higer than any medication. Thirdly, your argument is entirely invalid because you do not know how vaccines work. Being vaccinated does not make you immune from a virus. It gives your immune system a head start should you get it, which minimalizes complications. Not being vaccinated not only puts those who can't be vaccinated at risk, but also makes them a possible vector for mutations. If a virus mutates, suddenly no one is immune now. Breastfeeding is a great idea, but it certainly doesn't protect a child 100%, and 32% of women can't breastfeed. Its important because the complications that come with some of these viruses are fatal, and some cannot be treated. The benefit nearly always outweighs the risk.
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  199. He's not anymore don't worry. His license was suspended.
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  200. Is that why we take out $200,000+ in student loans?
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  201. Except there are no "researchers" who are anti-vaccine. Because that would go against the science and research we have.
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  202.  @laurac2031  Except there are. And they are easily found online and can also be requested at any vaccination appointment. Longer term studies haven't been fully completed because the vaccine isn't that old. When people are suffering complications from preventable diseases and when places have now legally lost the ability to hold a "measles free" status, we have an issue. If you don't vaccinate, other than for legitimate medical purposes, you are denying science. Period. End of story. Come out of conspiracy land.
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  203. I'm a medical school student who is not going into traditional medicine. I took a whole goddamn semester on vaccines and immunology. We know vaccines can have side effects. So can the diseases they fight against.
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  204. Vaccines have never and will never be mandatory. These are not people who believe vaccines should not be mandatory. These are people who believe NO ONE should get vaccinated and that vaccines are OUTRIGHT harmful. That is NOT doing what is best for your children.
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  205. Because one outlook is a dangerous behavior not backed by evidence? If they were for informed consent, this comment section wouldn't be like this. But they aren't. They are spreading misinformation that is harmful. That should not be acceptable.
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  206. Usually they don't. Most places will not allow your child in school if they aren't vaccinated. Most I know either go to private schools or are home schooled.
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  207.  @9z9z9z9  And you admitted you already failed biology, which shows how little I can take you seriously. Your original comment says that viruses CANNOT survive without a host cell. That is absoute nonsense. Will viruses "thrive" as they would with a host cell? No. Can they still be harmful without a host cell? Yes.
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  208. Because the possibility that those complications were caused be vaccines is so small, its inconceivable. There are way more likely reasons she has epilepsy.
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  209.  @SadSynth  Here's a fun stat. The odds of developing encephalitis from the measles is 1 in 400. The odds of dying from encephalitis is 1 in 267. Take your pick.
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  210. You cannot put sole blame on a medication. Medications have side effects, and it is your responsibility to report bad side effects to your psychiatrist or GP. I highly doubt your claim of excessive weight gain, liver and kidney failure was soley due to antidepressants, if even true at all.
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  211. Thats because people around you are vaccinated. Vaccines have never been linked to autism. And you lack an understanding of how the immune system works.
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  212.  @scottp7256  Vaccines do not give you autoimmune diseases, cancer, diabetes or autism. Those are not side effects. Certain vaccines may raise your risk for developing such things, but they do not cause it.
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  213.  @scottp7256  You cannot give me scientific journals that say vaccines are a direct cause of those things. You could give me studies potentially linking vaccines to a later development of those things, but then you would have to prove correlation is causation. I feel confident based on the evidence and consensus of the medical and scientific community. Those feelings are subject to change.
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  214. Don't worry. His license was suspended for falsifying vaccine information.
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  215.  @AnymMusic  Nope, I'm serious. He's on a 35 month suspension as of June and has recently been accused of falsifying documents to avoid vaccination. If found to be true, he will officially loose his medical license.
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  216. I hope you're joking.
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  217.  @scottpe6226  You should actually look these people up. They have called for all parents to stop vaccination. Vaccines have never been forced.
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  218.  @scottpe6226  Go find these people on social media. Its not hard if you do some digging. They'd never be given a platform if their language wasn't tempered. Especially Bob, since he was on probation at the time this was filmed. As they should be. If you don't want to get vaccinated, fine. Homeschool your children. You have that right. Yes, because their children got sick and they refused treatment which included vaccination. That's called neglect.
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  219.  @scottpe6226  I wasn't saying they are represented a body. I'm saying these people only represent themselves. I would hardly qualify someone who is skeptical of vaccines and would simply prefer not to take them as anti-vaxxers. Actual anti-vaxxers know they can't ban vaccines, but they spread lies to convince people not to take them. Bob Sears is a liar and a fraud who's medical license is now revoked, as he violated the terms of his medical probation. He was put on probation because of his false claims about vaccines. Stop lying. Its a bad look, and its easily looked up. Not seeking medical help for a child simply because a doctor will vaccinate your child is neglect. And its abuse. I found no case of CPS removing a child only because they didn't vaccinate. The cases I read were people who's children were sick, and when asked if their children were vaccinated, they said no. When doctors then informed the parents their children would be vaccinated during treatment, they refused their child help. THAT is neglect. Your paranoia for vaccines is ridiculous.
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  220. Good thing they're not. You sound like an anti-vaxxer when you don't even know what's in vaccines. Thimerosal is a MERCURY COMPOUND that is completely safe and is only used in some strains of the flu vaccines.
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  221. That isn't why people are upset. She continues to spout things that aren't true about vaccines, and didn't even accept the possibility that ANYTHING OTHER than the vaccine caused her daughters injuries. By the way, if you browse through Facebook, she is absolutely against children getting vaccines.
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  222. Yeah no...thats not how that works...
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  223. I doubt you do.
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  224.  @zoelou2975  You mean the Youtube video that has been debunked? Or the Youtube video taken out of context? Because both have been done. Everything in vaccines is something we naturally make or consume or something that is not harmful to us in the alloted doses. What do you people think are in vaccines that are so goddamn dangerous?
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  225.  @zoelou2975  Humans produce about 1.5 ounces of formaldehyde a day as a normal part of our metabolism. Perhaps do some common research.
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  226. There is no research suggesting that the aluminum adjuvant present in the weak vaccines passes the blood-brain barrier. Not only that, but it is absorbed nearly instantly. There is no research linking this to AD.
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  227.  @scintilae670  If your articles are actually scientifically relevant and peer based, I will certainly read them. Eveverything I have read and been taught says the exact opposite.
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  228. Most places will give you free vaccinations.
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  229. I read every label and every insert of every vaccination or medication I give my child. No one has died of a vaccine that has been proven by a link since 1991. And yes, injuries can occur. They can also occur with any medication. You can believe whatever conspiracy you want.
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  230. Because there's no reason too. What is in vaccines and their potential effects is well documented and known.
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  231.  @mcervas  Bob Sears wanting to protect children and not being against vaccines. When you make a false medical exemption to your board to stop a child getting a vaccine, how is that helpful?
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  232. You did not develop RA from the flu shot. RA is genetic.
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  233. Hey guess what? Mutations exist.
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  234. Vaccines do not cause autism. And no, the aborted fetal tissue is still the ones used in the 60's.
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  235.  @UltraAar  Because autism is a spectrum, not a singular disorder as it used to be classified as. As more is know about a conditionx it simply stands to reason that more people would be disgnosed.
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  236. He is anti-vax, and he lost his medical license because of it. He falsified exemptions for children against vaccines because he claimed they caused auto-immune diseases.
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  237.  @lauranilsen8988  If he "strongly believed" that even against the consensus of both the scientific and medical community, that is still his fault. He was on probation, but has since been accused of violating it and is due to go before the medical board. If the accusations are found to be true, he will lose his medical license (which was actually supposed to be his original punishment until he talked to Board into giving him probation.)
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  238.  @laurac2031  Actually, it was never a consesus of the medical community that cigarettes were not harmful. There were communities in the medical field that did not believe cigarettes were harmful, but they were never the majority. I, in no way, codone mandatory vaccines. You should not be forced to do anything with yourself or your children that you are uncomfortable with. That being said, you should accept the responsibilities that come with that decision, like your child not being allowed in public schools or activities or financial/criminal consequences if you hurt your child or you hurt someone else.
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  239. Anyone who has the title of physican has to hold an MD, which is a doctorate of medicine. Doctor means you hold any type of doctorate degree.
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  240. Anti-vaxxers do not provide a point. These people are actively hurting other people, and you want us to be compassionate towards them? Hell no. Thats ridiculous.
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  241. Juvenile arthritis is not the same thing as RA. RA is an auto-immune disorder. JA is genetic. Also, no where does it say "epilepsy" can be an adverse reaction to vaccines. Seziures can be an adverse reaction to vaccines, but seizures are not necessarily epilepsy. Epilepsy is typically either something you have from birth or obtained through trauma. Seziures caused by an adverse reaction to vaccines almost never continue after the initial injection, nor does it always stem from misfiring signals of the brain.
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  242. ...you are an absolute moron. I suffer TBI epilepsy, and before medication I had anywhere between 2 to 10 seizures a day. A seziure does not cut of your artieries. What it can do in rare cases is cause hemorrhaging of the brain or a heart attack.
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  243.  @dluvv19761  But why? Why wouldn't you be against every vaccine? That makes no sense.
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  244.  ΔΠDRΣШ LΔSTΠΔMΣ TPD • 50 years ago  No, thats not true. Vaccines jump start the immune system to fight a virus you come into contact with before it spreads. It does not protect you from getting it. It prevents you from developing complications.
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  245.  ΔΠDRΣШ LΔSTΠΔMΣ TPD • 50 years ago  a vaccines gives your body a chance to fight off a virus before it is able to spread or take root. And thats not true. People get the flu vaccine and still get the flu. It allows your body to fight it off better and faster. It does not guarantee you won't get it.
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  246.  @richardgregory3684  And that has both its benefits and downfalls.
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  247.  @ritadavison4857  I have never had to pay for vaccines. Ever. And children rarely get sick from vaccines. So, no. It isn't easy to understand.
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  248.  @ritadavison4857  Do you even understand why doctors are paid so much? You understand how expensive medical school is?
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  249. That's a joke...right?
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  250.  @retarded455  okay good. Its a joke.
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  251.  @shawnascholz7805  Just because your brother and yourself are from the same family tree does not mean your children and theirs have the same genetic makeup. They do not. That is not how genetics works. I am well aware they are companies. I am also well aware that they can have side effects. I also know that millons of children and adults have been saved by vaccines. Your niece and nephew having issues, none of which are immune disorders, has nothing to do with whether they were vaccinated or not. Vaccines are free. If anything, manufacturers loose money on vaccines. I have had health problems all my life, and I am well aware that some people only see me as a dollar sign. My children are vaccinated because I have seen children die without vaccines. And while I firmly believe choosing to vaccinate should be a choice, you should also be prepared for the criminal and financial consequences IF your children get hurt or hurt others.
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  252.  @shawnascholz7805  I do have children, and both of my children and myself love anime and cartoons. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, and I am very happy making 6 figures a year and finishing up my MD. My tastes and what I enjoy in no way reflect my parenting or my mental capacity. Your ad hominems are quite sad.
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  253.  @shawnascholz7805  I expose my children to those I know, trust and have always cared. You may be a zealot conspiracy theorist, but I am far more educated than that.
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  254. I don't see how anti-vaxxers, a potentially hazardous group, can be compared to the lgbt, who just want the same rights and privileges as everyone else.
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  255.  @StopJerkingOff  No, I did tead your comment and I'm not triggered. I just legimately didn't understand. Oh and lets see. Healthcare and adoption rights to children are two off the top of my head I can think of. You don't choose who you're attracted to by the way.
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  256.  @StopJerkingOff  No, its not. Gender reassignment sugery, for instance, can be outright denied by both physicans and insurance companies. People don't sue because there is no law thats been broken. You cannot be denied healthcare based on your sexuality, but a hospital can deny a partner to see you on the grounds of it being same sex. Children are being continously abused by the state and set up for failure. Why can't trans and gay people adopt them into loving homes? What's wrong with that? How do we have bigger problems than basic human rights? I'm not trying to sound preachy. If you don't support LGBTQ thats your right. But to compare it to a dangerous group of people like anti-vaxxers is disgusting at worst and a strawman at best.
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  257.  @StopJerkingOff  Not all people know right away what they like. And the majority of people know what they're into by the time they finish puberty, although some certainly are confused, mostly because of hatred towards the LGBTQ community.
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  258. Yeah the outcome has been fantastic because everyone around him is vaccinated. You should have the right to not vaccinate, but your child should not be allowed in schools, and you should be held criminally responsible should something happen to him or someone else. Vaccines have never been linked to cancer or autism. I am a cancer survivor and autistic, and am not vaccinated.
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  259. I have severe epilepsy. I have massive seizures every day. I'd be willing to bet she did not get seizures from a vaccine.
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  260. Well, barring medical exemptions.
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  261. They'll abstain until the see or experience the absolute havoc COVID reaps on your body, even when you're young and healthy.
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  262.  @mariopellegrino7661  Then how come people who were young and healthy died from it? I'm 27 and was in the ICU for 4 days on a respirator.
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  263. He's not.
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  264.  @a.j.rivera3123  Is that why he's a fraud?
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  265.  @a.j.rivera3123  I don't really care. I correct the spreading of harmful misinformation.
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  266. They don't unless they are medically exempt. At least in moat cities.
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  267. He did.
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  268. No, not if it was actually caused by the vaccine. If it was, take it to court. What people get upset with is you claiming your negative experience means that vaccines themselves are completely unsafe for anyone and/or you immediately jumping to the conclusion that the ONLY cause of injury MUST have been the vaccine, instead of looking at all possible explanations.
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  269. Because people know who Bob actually is, and that he lost his medical license for issuing false documentation concerning vaccines. His language was tempered here because he was on license probation at the time.
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  270. Thats called "using tempered language to avoid backlash and consequences". You can easily find these people's real stances on the Internet. Bob lost his medical license for this.
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  271. Thats because Autism is a spectrum and we have more research on it now. Has nothing to do with vaccines.
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  272. They aren't arguing for informed consent. They are arguing that vaccines should not be used period until they are 100% safe. That's extremely dangerous.
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  273.  @braceyourselvesfortruth2492  The problem with that is the most informed consent people aren't against vaccines. The facts don't agree with people.who would choose not to be vaccinated
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  274. No. We don't understand how someone can be so far out of touch with reality and science that they would advocate for the potential harm of children.
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  275. Abortion is an enshrined right to bodily autonomy outlined in the Constitution. Just "choosing" not to vaccinate is a public health hazard. These are not comparable at all.
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  276. There aren't credible doctors who are anti-vax. There are credible doctors who think it should a personal decision and that vaccines carry risks. Also no. It hasn't been debunked. If anything, uts been corroborated.
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  277.  @qwertyasf  I would like evidence of that. There are plenty of doctos speaking out against vaccine mandates or even vaccine doses. I do not know a single doctor that speaks out against vaccines completely, because they know vaccines help. Yeah, as they should. When you lie and spread misinformation, you shouldn't have a license to practice medicine. There is nothing to debate. Vaccines help. They save lives.
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  278. That depends entirely on what speciality you choose. But every physician has mandatory general studies. I'm not on a traditional medicine path, and I took a whole semester on immunology and general nutrition. Tldr; You have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
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  279. Really hard for a genetic disease to be caused by anything other than you know...genetics.
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  280.  @river7591  I doubt it. There are generally people who believe this. If this was a joke, the OC would have responded.
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  281.  @philsteinberg6985  You know nothing about me. I can have liberal views on certain issues, but I'm not a liberal politically. And its funny you should say autism is only found in animals. Because you're right. It just happens to be that humans are animals.
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  282.  @philsteinberg6985  Once again, I'm not a liberal.
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  283. It has been tested and proven. I would seriously do some research.
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  284.  @aria9615  Thats not my priority. Anything I show you, you will dismiss because you already have cognitive dissonance. The research is there if you want it. There's a reason why denying vaccines to a child is a felony if that child is harmed.
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  285. The insert you can ask for any time you get a vaccine tells you EXACTLY whats in it.
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  286. But we do. Because you not being vaccinated poses mutation risks that no one is protected from. This is what has happened with the corona virus. Its a mutation. You may have a naturally stronger immune system, even more than someone who is vaccinated. You may just simply be more asymptomatic. One of the reasons your able to live as long as you do is thanks to vaccines. Its not foreign. Its a dead piece of the virus.
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  287.  @memeswereablessingfromthel3942  There is. Both the common cold and the flu are types of coronavirus. This is a new mutated strain we haven't seen before.
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  288.  @memeswereablessingfromthel3942  I didn't say COVID-19 was a mutated cold. I literally said it was a mutated strain of a coronavirus
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  289.  @memeswereablessingfromthel3942  No, its okay. I understand.
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  290. You mean the man that had his medical license revoked? The seizures that can be caused by vaccines are one off. They are not continuous. Here's some more facts. The odds of developing measles when you're unvaccinated after coming into contact with a person who has it is 1 in about 6000. The odds of you developing encephalitis from measles is 1 in 450. The odds of dying from encephalitis is 1 in 25. This is why we have vaccines. So you do not develop DEADLY complications.
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  291. He is anti-vax. And he lost his medical license because of it. He said what he said here because he was on probation.
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  292. Both of those are much more likely the result of genetics than vaccines.
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  293. What people don't understand is that the argument that they cause long term health effects is false. These conditions that you want to blame on vaccines ARE genetic. That's not to say vaccines can't have side effects. But they don't just develop in life. They happen in the moment. People who do not vaccinate, and can, ARE a threat. They risk spreading diseases that have long been eradicated. That is not okay. If you are going to endanger people's health, you should have restrictions.
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  294. Neither of which you can get from a vaccine.
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  295. @Mizz Thang And idiots tend to raise other idiots, so take your own advice.
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  296. Unless you are incredibly young, there is literally no chance you have NEVER been sick. You just haven't had any major illnesses.
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  297.  @emp731  I don't believe that for an instant. I think the last time you had something debilitating may have been 20 years ago, but you have certainly been sick since then. Perhaps simply nothing that hindered you. I hope you also realize that you did not get the flu from the flu vaccine. You can thank cleanliness, food safety and vaccines for that.
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  298. Got his license suspended lol.
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  299.  @ayourmum8521  The problem I have is with anti-vaxxers jumping to the conclusion that their child needs 24 hour care BECAUSE of vaccines, when that just isn't the case. That blame is not justified. What the fuck? No one "straps down a child". No medical professional does this. No medical professional blames vaccines for the reason a child suddenly becomes non-verbal. Your cousin has never had thr flu because a) everyone around him is vaccinated and b) because he has a strong immune system. Not everyone is granted that. The government doesn't make as much money on vaccines as you think. Especially since vaccines are free nearly everywhere and are covered by the most basic insurance.
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  300. There is no vaccine against sepis. That is blood poisoning. The likelyhood of you getting meningitis when you are vaccinated are much lower.
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  301. That is not how vaccines work. You ARE a danger to people. You are a host for mutations and you are susceptible to spread it to people who cannot get vaccinated.
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  302. Gee, I wonder why there would be hostility against a group that is actually harmful and detrimental?
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  303. They have been. He lost his medical license for violating his medical probation.
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  304. No such thing as a credible antivaxx doctor/scientist.
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  305. Because both of these conditions are extremely common?
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  306. No one argues for people who have medical issues not being vaccinated. The problem is people advocate for "my child had a bad reaction, therefore vaccines are unsage and NO ONE should get them".
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  307. Yes, they can still get it. The difference is a vaccinated individual can fight off these diseases without developing the crippling side effects and usually without much medical intervention. You cannot get the flu from the flu vaccine. The reason people usually get the flu anyways is because the vaccine only covers the 5 most common strains. The flu is a virus that easily mutates and is spread airborne. You're just uneducated.
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  308.  @what6233  Your body naturally weakens when exposed to any foreign body. Your immune system is weakened because it is already actively fighting something off or is in the process of rebuilding itself up. Just like organs can never full repair damaged tissue. I'm assuming when you say "studied biology for 5 years" you don't mean at a post-secondary level. Or you mean basic biology as opposed to something like Microbiology.
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  309. Vaccines don't make money. Vaccines are given for free.
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  310.  @cityfantv-everythingmancit2946  Most anti-vaxxers I know are genuinely afraid of doctors and medicine. They legitimately believe it will hurt them.
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  311.  @amanabookclub4198  Your opinion is being attacked because it is harmful. You shouldn't be proud of harming people.
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  312.  @amanabookclub4198  Thats not what these people are though. These are people who think vaccines are inherently bad, cause mental diseases like autism, and who thinks no one should get them. All medication has side effects, including vaccines.
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  313. So you'd rather them suffer with a potentially deadly illness? I suffer with epilepsy, and I wouls rather take the horrid seizures I have on a weekly basis then the 1/400 chance of developing encephalitis from measles.
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  314. Aluminum- Something you naturally consume in food. Antibiotics- Something you take in medication when you're sick. Egg Protein- Something you naturally eat Formaldehyde- Chemical used in body preservation. About 50 to 70 times more present in a newborn than is used for the vaccine. MSG- Consumed in food. Squalene- Found in a variety of foods and cosmetics. Gelatin- Naturally found in animal bones. Consumed in food. Polysorbate 80- Usually consumed in ice cream. Aborted fetal tissue- Was used to create the viruses from fibroblasts in the 60's. Hasn't been used since the original development. Mercury- Hasn't been used in any vaccines since 1996 other than some flu vaccines. Thiomersal mercury has never been proven to damage the body. May produce side effects like everything. Does a body no harm in the mass majority of cases.
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  315.  @loloppololp9304  The complications that occur from vaccines are rare, almost always minor, and are easily treated.
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  316. Mercury has not been used in vaccines since 1996. Its used in one form of the flu vaccine, and the mercury used has already proven to not be harmful. Vaccines don't protect your body from getting the disease. They protect you from the repercussions of that disease. You may be fine with your body trying to fight it off naturally until it becomes so weak, it can no longer fight. Then you develop potentially life altering, or even fatal, complications. Would you rather take the risk of being potentially disabled temporarily from a vaccine, or being permanently disabled by a preventable illness? That choice is yours.
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  317. He did.
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  318. There's a difference between being genuinely curious and open to discussion, and pretending that the facts are on your side and that correlation equals causation. If you also look up her social media page, she is one of these people who believe vaccines cause autism and SIDS. That is rhetoric that absolutely deserves to be met with contention.
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  319. I completely agree it shouldn't be mandatory. But in saying that, they also shouldn't be allowed to put other children at risk. Being vaccinated doesn't protect you from getting the disease. It protects you from that disease overwhelming your body and developing the nasty complications that come with you. Anti-vaxxers are also vectors for a virus to mutate. If that happens, no one becomes safe. Its not "random fluid". You can literally Google or ask the doctor precisely whats in that vaccine. The flu is a virus that happens to mutate easily. Again, a vaccine is designed to protect you from the complications, not the virus itself.
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  320.  @scottp7256  Except there is no research that proves that. In fact, the research shows that juvenile arthritis is genetic.
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  321.  @scottp7256  Yes I have. And sure, there are studies that support a link. There are many more, far more credible sources, that points to a genetic cause. I am not discounting those outliers. I am simply saying as of this time, there is no confirmed link between vaccines and arthritis in juveniles.
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  322.  @scottpe6226  It could. And if thats the case, she should be medically exempt. I'm not above admitting vaccines can and do cause harm.
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  323. No, I doubt it
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  324. Actually, he is. And his medical license is on the verge of being revoked because of it.
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  325. I hope you're joking.
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  326. Really? I'm not even going into traditional medicine, and I have had 4 semesters of immunology and pharmacology. Including a whole 16 week course only on vaccines. Try actually going to medical school.
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  327. I have never been anywhere in the united states where vaccines are not free.
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  328. Bob Sears also is at risk of losing his medical license for bullshitting medical exemptions.
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  329.  @kregalis  You don't develop autism. You develop the symptoms usually around the time you get vaccinated. You are either born with autism or your not. That is a fact. New diseases emerge with time. Viruses mutate. By the way, all vaccines are optional. Oh, and nearly every place in the US give vaccines for free. Nearly all ingredients in vaccines are things you naturally consume in food and water. They are safe. However, like all medications, they can have side effects. Here's a quick little fact. The odds of developing seizures because of the mmr vaccine are 1 in 3000. The odds of developing encephalitis, which is fatal if left untreated and can result in permenant brain damage, after getting infected with measles is 1 in 400. Are those risks worth it? Up to you. But don't spread misinformation.
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  330. Its because of the vaccines man. They're eating your brain.
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  331.  @mattmroz2182  I know right. They were right the whole time. The man wants to inject us with neurotoxins.
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  332.  @king_julian327  Really.
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  333. Doctorate. Doctorate degree.
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  334. Well, since no one has died from a vaccine in 30 years in America, I suppose that would be a "cross that bridge when we come to it." What compensation would you give to a family who's child was infected by another child and died from it?
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  335. One that lost his license to practice.
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  336. Nearly all medication contain adjuvants. And those adjuvants are things your body either naturally makes or you consume in food. No, vaccines are not poison.
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  337.  Sam Yaza  Since when do you need to be married or have a husband to have children? They've been trying for decades to prove some conspiracy with vaccines, and they never have. Its because it doesn't exist.
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  338.  Sam Yaza  No, you're just choosing to believe false information.
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  339. @Mizz Thang None of your claims have ever been proven. There is no correlation between cancer in children and vaccines. Everything in vaccines are ingredients your body is exposed to or naturally produces. Go back in the corner with your tinfoil hat.
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  340. Except you're wrong. The vast majority do not want any type of vaccine regulation, and these people actively cause others harm.
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  341.  @scottpe6226  Meseals is deadly in any sense if left untreated or misdiagnosed. Caught early enough, no. It probably won't be fatal. Rubella is usally a mild disease outside the womb, but can cause fatal infections and respiratory arrest in those with compromised immune systems. The mumps vaccine is 88% effective on average with 2 shots and 78% effective with one. The reason the vaccination was ineffective was because the virus is likely to have mutated. If many people believe that the risks of an MMR vaccine outweigh the benefits, its because they have bought into the fear that people spread through misinformation.
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  342. Thats what vaccine court is for.
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  343. The cognitive dissonance is strong with you. I hope you have fun in prison when one of you children contract an illness. I am proud to have put a mother away for 20 years for refusing to vaccinate her daughter.
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  344. Those two things have nothing in common. You're risking other sentient people when you don't get vaccinated. You shouldn't keep a pregnancy you do not consent to.
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  345.  @shaynestewart6480  You do not know your childs anatomy more than a doctor. Period. Of course vaccines are risky. So are cars, pets and other medications. The question should be "does the benefit outweigh the risk for me"
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  346.  @shaynestewart6480  Then thats a question to ask the doctor. Real honest doctors would be more than happy to tell you. Is a 1/3000 chance of a seizure worth the 1/400 death to infection caused by the measles? Thats up to you.
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  347. The only vaccine that still uses thimerosal is certain types of flu vaccines. Tetnus, as well as the typical routine of vaccines, stopped using thimerosal in 1996. And other vaccines, such as the MMR, never used it in the first place. Thimerosal is a mercury compound that has never been proven to be dangerous to humans.
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  348.  @alanrod1234  Thimerosal is not mercury. Its a mercury compund. Also, mercury does not cause autism. Autism is a genetic disorder you are either born with or your not. And that has nothing to do with vaccines, since mercury isn't used in them.
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  349.  @alanrod1234  "Also, in the past, humans were a lot healthier" So not only did you fail chemistry and biology, you failed history. No one has EVER lived past 200 years, and people in the past lived on average between 30 and 40. The Black Plague nearly wiped Europe off the map.
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  350.  @alanrod1234  There is absolutely no evidence for that. Those are things people make up to try and prop up their religion. Again, vaccines no long contain mercury compounds. And you naturally consume aluminum. When people die because people refuse to vaccinate, you deserve everything that happens
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  351.  @bryant_pham  Except it is known. Its right on the insert. We know the likelihood of getting a negative reaction. The insert lists the warnings right on it. By the way, we have a whole court system for vaccine related injuries. I work in the medical field, and I would have never gotten into this work if I didn't care. I love my patients. Billions of dollars goes into cancer research, but a cure has not yet been found. Very few doctors care more about money that patients.
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  352. You mean Bob Sears? He's a disgrace who lost his medical license for lies he spread about vaccines.
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  353. Acupuncture does nothing except relax and relieve pain. It will not prevent you from getting a virus.
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  354. Influenza is the 7th leading cause of death in people under the age of 50 in the US. Consider this when deciding whether or not to get the flu shot.
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  355.  @jgran1244  I'm only giving you a statistic so you consider it in the future. Thats all.
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  356.  @RealTalkChristina  Oh yes. Everyone has an immune system. Because immunocompromised people just don't exist. A vaccine is a dead virus. It can't make you sick. You can have reactions to other ingredients. And vaccines are not meant to make you "immune". They're designed to prevent you from getting complications associated with the disease. Are you actually the moron who believes you get mental health issues from a dead virus? You don't. Mental health is almost entirely genetic. Your doing fine because everyone else is vaccinated, and these diseases have been eradicated.
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  357.  @RealTalkChristina  Both the MMR and chickenpox vaccines have inactive and live versions, just like the flu shot does. Vaccine manufacturers are liable. That's why vaccine court exists. Do you? Would you like me to list them, what they do, and show how most of them are things you are naturally exposed to, or your body makes yourself? Here's a better question. What's in vaccines that makes you so afraid?
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  358.  @RealTalkChristina  I never said that. I just said most vaccines that are used are inactive. They are sued. That's what vaccine court is. You just can't sue them directly. That's what vaccine court is for. It takes years to get a hearing because too many people excuse corralation with casuauation. Just because you get sick after a vaccine or have reactions does not necessarily mean that the vaccine caused it. No, it doesn't alarm me that vaccine court has cases. Regular medication can cause these same issues. They need to be addressed and looked into. Yes, I know people are injured by vaccines. I know people die from vaccines. That should be looked into. I would like to know which vaccine you want me to list. Is there a specific one? And yes, they are awesome. Because of how many lives they have saved and improved. But of course, they aren't perfect.
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  359.  @RealTalkChristina  Yet you won't tell me what "toxic ingredients" you're talking about. Because you know its false information. Your children should be vaccinated because these viruses cause lasting damage. If you can't trust your physician (who makes 0 money on vaccines in most cases) who can you trust? Too many people like you spread lies and false information out of fear. No, not many people are dying and being injured. Correlation does not equal casuation, and too many people don't understand that. I want you to research actual medical studies, not quacks who no longer have a license to practice. If you don't want vaccines fine. But you should lose some privilage and hold accountability, because you are a potential health risk.
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  360.  @RealTalkChristina  If someone has a reaction to ANYTHING it should be looked into. Conclusions just shouldn't be jumped to. They do save lives. That's not a contradiction.
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  361.  @RealTalkChristina  No, I said the only live version that is usually used is the flu vaccine. If that wasn't clear, I apologize. Are you referring to the COVID vaccine? Because that's not what we're discussing. I agree in waiting on that one. I thought you meant things like the MMR vaccine causing things like autism. That kind of person.
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  362.  @herbbowler2461  You're going to have to be specific on what you're claiming I'm lying about.
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  363.  @herbbowler2461  Then don't take medicine and go off and die in a hovel somewhere. I rely on medicine for survival, and appreciate the effort western medicine puts into making my life better.
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  364.  @herbbowler2461  I don't believe you, but even if you are telling the truth, I don't care. I depend on healthcare to survive, and you will be the first to call the doctor when something goes wrong.
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  365.  @futuregmchess1561  You get sick because pathogens enter your body and cause your immune system to inact an inflammatory response as a way to prevent the pathogen from mutating. What does that question have to do with vaccines?
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  366.  @futuregmchess1561  Yes. Vaccines help defend you from the complications that arise from the virus. They do not protect you from getting the virus. They just help equip your immune system to be better prepared.
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  367.  Matt Jones  What the hell are you talking about? What isn't true?
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  368. I don't feel, as a vegan, that that statement is true.
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  369.  @justinfilipovic8939  Because when they inevitably suffered a terrible complication from a disease that could have been prevented, the side effects that have actually been provably linked to vaccines would be so minor they wouldn't matter.
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  370. And those children would have developed autism without vaccines as well, since it is a genetic disorder. What do you people think are in vaccines that cause autism?
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  371. Vaccines do not prevent you from getting the disease. They allow your body a jumpstart to fight off the condition before it spreads and develops into other problems. Not being vaccinated is a problem for 2 reasons. First off, it affects the people around you who can't be vaccinated. Most importantly, you are then a host of mutations. If a virus mutates in your body, now no one has an immunity to that strain. Mutations are why almost 40,000 die of the flu every year.
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  372.  @paytonaxtell  No. Because vaccines are designed to work with your natural immune system to eliminate the virus before it can become communicable.
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  373. No, he did. And he is currently on probation for claiming medical exemptions against vaccines that children did not have. He's on the brink of losing his license.
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  374. If you had a reaction to a vaccine, then fo yourself a favor and determine which vaccine you had a reaction to and ask for the ingredients. Then stay away from vaccines or medications with those ingredients. You may be the rate exception of those that have bad reactions to vaccines. That doesn't mean you should encourage others not to get them or prevent children from getting them.
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  375. Of course we don't know everything. But we know about immunology more than you do. If you have concerns, ask. NOTHING that a vaccine can do to someone is "irreversible". Most symptoms and reactions are one off and easily treated.
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  376.  @scottp7256  Gee, I wonder why polio was eradicated? Measles used to be a death sentence if not found soon enough. Wonder why that's not the case anymore. You should go the doctor if you have an unexplained rash. That's a sign of inflammation. Fever depends on other symptoms, but a fever is your body's way of saying its immune system has been activated.
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  377.  @scottp7256  I don't know anyone that doesn't go to the doctor for flu-like symptoms, especially when they last longer than 24 hours. You proved you did zero research. A women died of pneumonia caused by measles in 2015 in Washington State. Over 50 children have been hospitalized this year for measels, and while none were fatal, 2 developed encephalitis. That is a problem. There is no such thing as a "mandatory" vaccine. You are not under any legal obligation to get vaccines. I won't acknowledge that because it isn't true.
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  378.  @scottp7256  I have immune problems, so flu-like symptoms for me is almost always treated with antibiotics. Usually because my flu-like symptoms are caused by some kind of infection (most common for me being LRI or UTI)
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  379.  @idk_14702  See...you people are the reason pandemic resurge.
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  380.  @scottpe6226  Yeah no. That's a flat out lie. Unless you're referring to the claim that vaccines can have side effects. But then, you have to lump all medications in with them.
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  381. Most offices will vaccinate for free.
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  382.  AJ White  You can google direct vaccine injuries. That means injuries that can be directly traced to vaccines. The last death in the western world from a vaccine was in 1990.
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  383. I doubt that, considering you cannot even spell meningitis.
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  384. Influenza kills nearly 40,000 people in the US every year and is the 7th leading cause of death. The flu shot is your BEST protection against this.
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  385. You should actually do research on these people. They are active on anti-vaxxer groups and believe that people should not be vaccinated because of their own experience.
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  386. There is a lot wrong with challenging decades of research and evidence against baseless assertions. No vaccine is mandatory. But it can cause active harm to not be vaccinated. And you should not be allowed certain privileges if you have decided to risk actively causing harm.
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  387.  @kaleip7652  And those people who it can cause harm to is the exception to the rule. That's not the issue. The issue is people jumping to push an end to all vaccines simply because someone COULD have a bad reaction. A parent should have the right to questions, but not at the expense of others. I'm absolutely against mandatory vaccines, but you as a parent should have consequences should you choose to make a decision that causes harm. I know a woman personally serving 20 years in prison because she would not give her daughter the chicken pox vaccine, which she ultimately died of. When you are actively harming a child, you should no longer have the privilege to make a decision. And as far as the privileges go, I meant things like public education. If you choose not to vaccinate, fine. But you should not be allowed a position to harm other people. That is not fair. No, they're not. The reactions they do and can cause pr well documented. But people are quick to point blame on something when something bad happens. That's a ridiculous line of reasoning. You are encouraging people to doubt vaccines because people have had reactions. Thats like saying "think about not wearing a seatbelt, because they can and have harmed people". Your promoting a stance that actively causes harm. I doubt they have had reactions to vaccines. They've had conditions they have then blamed on vaccines, and now want to call everyone sheep who support research and evidence.
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  388. @Dave m Because vaccines do not protect you from getting a virus. They are designed to protect you against potential leathal complications by giving your immune system a head start.
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  389. Pretty hard to do when autism is a genetic disorder.
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  390.  @snappy8666  No, I actually don't think it is. I legitimately know people who believe that, and they referred to vaccines as a poison.
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  391. See the problem is, you never stop to consider the reason you aren't sick. You rary get sick because you have a strong immune system, and you are surrounded by vaccinated people, so your immune system is not exposed to damaging pathogens like meseals, polio or meningitis.
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  392.  @borood1188  No one wants to force anyone who has a medical exemption to get a vaccine. What pisses people off is the outright denial that vaccines are beneficial and the refusal of them on the grounds of the RISK of a bad reaction.
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  393.  @borood1188  I don't care what other people do. If people choose not to vaccinate, then don't. But they should be held legally and financially responsible if they hurt someone and should be denied acces to area where people like me, who cannot be vaccinated, can potentially get sick, like a public school. You clearly don't know how vaccines work.
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  394.  @scottp7256  But they are. They are capable of carrying these diseases that spread to people who cannot get immunized or they risk mutating and putting everyone at risk.
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  395.  @scottp7256  I didn't say they were. I said they could. Vaccination is not what is causing bacteria to become antibiotic resistant. It is this germaphobic mentality that all bacteria are bad and we need to use antibacterial everything. That is factually untrue. Most cases of measles and polio came from unvaccinated individuals. The polio-like mylitis that spiked in 2018 were nearly all children who were not up to date on their vaccines. People should get vaccines because it has been medically and scientifically proven that you are less likely to potentially life threatening diseases if you are vaccinated.
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  396. Autism is something you are born with and most areas of the spectrum are not debilitating. No one has died directly from a vaccine in almost 30 years. The worst things that have ever been linked to vaccines is a risk of developing one off seizures, a higher risk of developing certain auto-immune conditions, and a possible allergic reaction. Vaccines are not toxic. Containing potentially toxic chemicals doesn't make something toxic.
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  397. Oh they do. You can easily find them on social media.
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  398.  @sexyroach  Because they're not. Have their been people harmed by vaccines? Yes. Thats why vaccine court exists. Do people often corralate vaccines with an illness when they have nothing to do with each other? Yes. People should be punished for actively causing harm to others if it happens.
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  399.  @sexyroach  You can. Go to vaccine court. Its what they're there for. Or, sue the manufacturer directly. Though you will probably lose. Testimonies are unreliable. And no one has died from a vaccine in the US since 1990 that could be medically proven to be directly caused by a vaccine. That was 30 years ago. When you're personal freedom harms someone, yes. You should be punished. Your decisions should not be mandated. But they have consequences. I have the freedom to be able to drive wherever I want. I should be punished if I hit someone.
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  400.  @freewyvern707  Yes, actually you can. You just have to go through a vaccine court first, and they will most likely throw out your case. Most people don't because you have to jump through so many hoops.
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  401.  @freewyvern707  You can. You just must do certain things before that option is made available to you. You cannot sue in a civil suit, but you can in a federal suit.
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  402. Nope. He falsified vaccine information so much that he got his medical license revoked.
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  403. Because they do?
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  404.  @libraghost9941  Your family doesn't have to show it for it to be present in children. Mutated and recessive genes exist. Your brother always had autism and ADHD. He became symptomatic around the age many children do. Thats entirely genetic. Has nothing to do with vaccines.
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  405. Eating healthy and lowering stress can help keep your immune system healthy. But it will not "boost" it (that isn't even a thing) and it will not necessarily protect you from these conditions.
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  406. The problem with your so called facts is that not all of them all. For example, there is currently NO vaccine that uses mercury. Mercury stopped being used in vaccines in 1996. Thiomersal, which is a ethylmercury compound, is used as an adjuvant in certain flu vaccines. Thiomersal, and etylmercury, has been continuously proven to not be harmful. Methylmercury, however, is. Second problem is that we have already proven that autism is a spectral genetic disorder. You either have it at birth or you don't. It develops more as you age, and usually begins to show symptoms typically around the time most children are vaccinated. Vaccinations can have side effects, just as any medication.
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  407.  @TheSpermalan  You're right on some of them. But there are other reasons behind that. For example, the rise in autism has to do with the research we have now. Autism is a spectrum and we can now diagnose it better.
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  408. He's really not. He tempered his language because he was on probation for his medical license.
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  409. Because anti-vaxx people are literally the cause of suffering, and they maliciously put other people's lives at risk because they choose to be ignorant.
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  410. You don't get a bonus just because a child is fully up to date on vaccines.
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  411. Why is that?
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  412.  @babetteroman6607  Nope. I don't see why you find the comments disgusting. Which is why I asked
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  413.  @babetteroman6607  What disturbed people? Perhaps I don't see what you see. That is why I asked. It seems to be you're just being cowardly and trying to start a fight. That just seems immature.
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  414.  @babetteroman6607  I was never trying to start a fight. I legitimately wanted another perspective. I wanted to know exactly what comments you found disturbing. Perhaps our opinions are different or I just haven't seen them. I have never seen a comment about people making jokes about children dying (though I'm sure they exist), but that is the reality we live in. I would have a problem with that, which is why I asked. For a "grown ass woman" you are very cowardly and immature.
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  415. And yet, you can't live without us. Eventually you'll need help. My job is to try to help you get better with as little intervention as possible. Giving you a prescription is not my attempt to hurt you. Vaccines are safe and have saved millions of lives.
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  416. Thats because the vast majority of people around you are vaccinated. Your decision should be respected, but its thanks to years of vaccines that you now have that option. Be prepared to take responsibility IF you should ever harm someone because of this decision.
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  417.  @kyleflanagan8410  No. No you're not. Anti vax people are vectors for mutations
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  418. Pro informed consent means the parents should have a right to do their own research and decide whether they feel their child should be vaccinated. Basically, that it shouldn't be a legal mandate.
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  419. No, for two reasons. 1) Vaccination does not prevent you from getting the illness. It helps your body fight it off more efficiently by giving it a head start. Its designed to protect you from the (often severe) complications that come from these viruses. 2) Anti-vaccine individuals are subject to being vectors for virus mutation. If a new strain of a virus comes from a mutation (like the flu or this coronavirus) no one is protected from it. Yes, people should have a right to choose. But they should also be denied certain privileges and be willing to accept responsibility if harm were to be had. What you believe about vaccines is irrelevant. That is simply not the truth. Vaccines have never been linked to autoimmune disorders. Autoimmune disorders are genetic.
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  420.  @scottp7256  Would you please stop with the autism thing? Autism is genetic. You are born with it. It is not a side effect.
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  421. Vaccines have years of testing behind them. You can sue. Its called a vaccine court. You sue there, and then the government sues the manufacturer. Drug companies still do not make money from vaccines, as every state has places that will give vaccines for free. They were not made immune because of lawsuits. Rarely were injuries reported. Pharmaceutical companies actually lose money on vaccines. You're simply a person who chooses to alter reality to suit you.
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  422. Thank the people around you who are vaccinated for the fact that you are healthy.
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  423. He unfortunately wasn't lying. He was an accredited and licensed pediatrician, who has thankfully had his licenses suspended.
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  424. Except they're not. And you can actively research their claims. They do take the position that no one should be vaccinated and that vaccines are harmful. Wanna know another fun statistic? The odds of developing encephalitis from measles is 1 in 400. The odds of dying from encephalitis is 1 in 260.
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  425. Pediatrician's have an MD...MD stands of Doctorate of Medicine.
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  426. You can be. A woman here got a 20 year prison sentence for negligent homicide because she refused to vaccinate her daughter who subsequently died to pneumonia caused by chicken pox.
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  427.  @stargate565  There are also a lot of people who think they have the flu when they don't. On top of that, the flu is a disease that easily mutates. The flu vaccine only covers about 5 strains every year.
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  428.  @scottpe6226  My comment stated that if the new accusations brought against him turned out to be true than he will have violated his probation and will loose his license.
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  429.  @scottpe6226  He wrote medical exemptions for children who were not medically exempt from vaccines because he does not believe in them. Those are false documents and he's lucky the board didn't take his license then. That is gross negligence.
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  430.  @scottpe6226  He has mentioned multiple times that he doesn't believe vaccines help. He wouldn't make up medical exemptions for patients if he believed vaccines were helpful. If he claims he believes in vaccines, his actions certainly don't show it.
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  431. A sovereign decision that potentially is a danger to public health deserves to be ridiculed and hated. Just as those who have legitimately suffered from vaccine related injuries deserve to be taken seriously.
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  432. I legitimately do not know any doctors who have not already lost their license or are in danger of loosing their license that are anti-vaccine.
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  433. No one laughs at those who are against vaccines for themselves because of a negative reaction. We laugh at those who, because of said negative reaction, now believe vaccines are horrible and no one should get them.
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  434. No, people don't get vaccines because they're scared of the possibility of having a side effect, or believe their side effect was releated to a vaccine.
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  435. The fetal tissue has been the same cells from its parent in the 60's. And you consume aluminum naturally. Your standard vaccines you should get if you are able. You're fine because everyone around you is vaccinated, which makes it difficult for these viruses to incubate and become communicable.
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  436. There is absolutely no reason to respect a person that actively causes harm to others and who doesn't care about the people they hurt. If you deny science in that manner, you deserve to be ridiculed.
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  437. Irregardless is a nonstandard synonym for regardless, which means “without concern as to advice, warning, or hardship
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  438. Not true. We have decades of research, and everything you get in vaccines you naturally will be exposed to.
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  439.  @buzznbloom  Vaccines lower the immune system temporarily, which can make us susceptible to sickness. You made it sound like the vaccine is the reason for her infertility and its not. The virus she caught is. That is not the vaccine's fault.
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  440.  @buzznbloom  A doctor didn't tell you that. I don't believe that. They don't agree with vaccines because they are thorougly uneducated. Some have legitimate reasons. If a doctor told you a vaccine caused your sister to be infertile, he should have his medical license stripped.
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  441. Very few people advocate for forced vaccinations. You should not be forced to vaccinate if you don't want to. But you should then be expected to deal with the consequences of that action, such as not being allowed in public schools.
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  442.  @earthpet  No, not really. There's extremists on both sides. Just as its not right to force vaccinations, to outright try and destroy someone or spread lies about vaccines is wrong as well. In fairness, you should be vaccinated if you can be. But you should never be forced.
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  443. Yes. Vaccines can have negative side effects. So can seat belts. So can water. So can the very nutrients needed for you to live. We have solid evidence they are effective. We have wiped out diseases that were debilitating and sometimes fatal. My grandmother was the middle of 4 siblings, all of whom died before the age of 15 from conditions we have vaccines for. Your cognitive dissonance doesn't work here. If you don't want to trust them, then don't. No one is forcing you.
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  444. Thinking being anti-vaccine is harmful and shouldn't be done does not change the fact that you are not obligated under any law to get vaccinated.
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  445.  @mzadro7  I understand that. I do believe that everyone should. I'm just saying there's no law saying you can't.
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  446.  @mashedt8rs290  You do know what's in vaccines. Its on the damn insert. Oh, and look. Another person who believes mercury is used in vaccines, which it hasn't been in almost 3 decades.
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  447.  Tim Account  One of my best friends died from pneumonia brought on by chickenpox. Not a fun thing to die from.
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  448. From the ones I've seen and spoken to, no. No they won't.
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  449. Yes there is. And not getting a chicken pox vaccine is currently costing a mother 20 years in prison for negligent homicide when her child died from pneumonia. Vaccines don't protect you against the illness. They protect you from the negative, and sometimes fatal, complications.
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  450. No one has died from a vaccine in almost 30 years. That they could scientifically prove was directly caused by a vaccine.
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  451. He was.
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  452. Your cousin is one of the extremely rare cases of being sensitive to something in the vaccine. Your doctor can help figure out what it is, and then give you vaccines without that component if that is a concern to you. That doesn't mean you shouldn't vaccinate.
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  453. "I believe immune systems need to be challenged at an early age to get strong" you have proven you know absolutely nothing about the immune system. Potentially exposing you child to a full blown pathogen when their body has never experienced anything of the sort is not thr correct way to build up the immune system. You overtax it and cause lifelong and potentially life threatening problems. Why do you think vaccines expose you to a weakened form of the pathogen. Its so your body has the immunity it needs to respond when faced with an active form in the future.
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  454.  @thereGoMapo  That you and I agree on. But to just ignore a current medication because it may cause side effects is unreasonable, unrealistic and dangerous.
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  455. Because someone who isn't vaccinated is a risk for people who cannot get it and a vector for mutations.
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  456. But, they're not. They may be advocating for that here, but their public profiles oppose vaccines entirely. Bob lost his medical license over being anti-vaccine.
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  457.  Tim Account  Well, they didn't use legitimate medical journals. Because at the end of them, while they let families know the risks, they actively tell them that its better to get vaccinated.
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  458.  Tim Account  Because she wouldn't be anti-vaccine if she did. Illegitimate advice is that which is not peer reviewed or studied. That pediatrician who was on the anti-vaccine side had his medical license suspended for providing false information about vaccines. Should you do your research? Yes. Should you discuss a vaccine plan with your doctor? Yes. Do you HONESTLY need every vaccine out there? Probably not. Should that be a reason to not get vaccinated period? Hell no.
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  459. He's lost it I believe. At the very least he would still be on probation.
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  460. You should not be able to choose whether or not your child gets care any more than you can choose whether or not your child eats. That is called abuse and neglect.
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  461. What make it a race issue?
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  462. Your mother shouldn't blame herself for a genetic disorder.
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  463. Everyone knows that a vaccine does not protect you from getting the virus. What it does is give your immune system a head start that can prevent you from getting it or of you do get it, having a milder strain. If anything, vaccines cause companies to lose money. Not gain it. You don't pay for vaccines in the US in the majority of places and they have been proven to be effective. Like any medicine, they carry side effects. If you need medication, take it. Many harmful things are "natural". You cannot blame medicine for everything that happens to you.
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  464. The VAERS site is meerly people who have reported a POTENTIAL vaccine effect. Doesn't mean whatever they experienced was actually caused by the vaccine. Thats why each case is looked into.
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  465. If you have a child with autism, that child was born with autism. It did not suddenly "get" autism.
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  466. This conversation is not about those with medical exemptions. Your parents do not know more about your body than a physician does. That gets old quickly.
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  467.  @kinglycaon3627  If you disagree with a doctor based on a past medical history, then you get a second opinion. Many diseases mimic other diseases. Believe me, I know doctors make mistakes. Hell, I have epilepsy and a doctor overdosed me on Benadryl because he thought I was simply having panic attacks, a drug whose actice ingredient is known to cause seizures. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with a doctor, but in general, they know your child better medically. They should take what parents say into consideration, but I've seen MANY parents who act like they know everything and act like total assholes.
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  468. They are. There's a vaccine court and you can sue the manufacturer directly if that fails. But you must have absolute proof that it WAS a vaccine that caused injury.
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  469. That doesn't make you an anti-vaxxer. Anti-vaxxers advocate against getting vaccines because they are harmful. Sounds like you just don't want them.
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  470. No. In very rare cases, vaccines can cause seizures.
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  471. No, they make billions off of you making yourself unhealthy. Most people just are rational enough to know not everyone is out to get them.
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  472.  @Zyrant3  Considering I'm in medical school, I find that logic unfounded.
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  473.  @Zyrant3  Sorry you feel that way. I'm not saying don't question things. Just don't be paranoid.
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  474.  @Zyrant3  I'm glad your able to live in a society where thats possible, but that would not be possible without vaccines at all. I would rather not get a paycheck and you be healthy than be making bank off of your suffering. I honestly mean that. If you don't feel you need vaccines, don't get them. But you should pay the consequences should something occur.
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  475.  @Zyrant3  Business doesn't tell me what to study by the way. I decide for myself.
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  476. Then you can blame genetics for that. Not vaccines.
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  477.  @lordheklsmosh9490  I'm sorry, but I don't believe that. I would like to know what process you took to legally and medically find out that the only cause of the health issues was the vaccine.
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  478. Yeah. And we had an average life expectancy of 40.
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  479. Eating good and staying active can help health, but it does not guarantee health. Also, I don't know where you got that doctors only had 19.5 hours of Nutrition. I didn't even go into traditional medicine, and I took 31 hours of nutrition in medical school.
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  480. No, I don't think it should. Its your right do be able to have the freedom to do what you believe in. However, you should be held in full responsibility if someone is negatively affected or killed as a result of your actions.
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  481. Guess what? Pharmaceutical companies and hospitals have to turn a profit to stay open. Sorry, but that's how it is. Doctors don't make as much as you think, considering how much we take out in student loans.
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  482. Not true. You should look into their social media. Because their children had a bad outcome, they don't believe vaccines as a whole are helpful and that people should not get them. By the way, manufacturers are liable. You can go to vaccine court and there is nothing in the law that prevents you for suing the manufacturer directly. You are just unlikely to win.
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  483.  @mdlinksthetopg6510  Yet in places where those things are mandated, you still have a spike in cases. No one has died in the states from a vaccine since 1990.
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  484. Thats because mental health is so much more understood now. And there are not. Everything in vaccines are either not harmful, things you are exposed to naturally, or things your body produces.
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  485. Nothing in vaccines is something your body doesn't naturally produce or is somethinf you consume naturaly. You can sue. In fact, we have a whole court for it. Called vaccine court. No, you haven't. No one has died from a vaccine in the US since 1990.
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  486. You're lucky you were born with an immune system strong enough to handle that.
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  487. Its not "random fluid". You can easily find out whats in vaccines.
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  488.  @r.whitaker3990  Except they don't. And if you did more research on these people, you would see that. I'm not for mandated vaccines (which would never happen, since its unconstitutional). These people literally spread false information about vaccines to try and convince people not to take it.
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  489.  @nweeezy  I don't know why that's funny?
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  490. It won't protect you against COVID-19, because its not the flu. A flu shot will, however, boost your immune system and make you less likely to get a secondary infection should you get COVID-19.
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  491.  @scottpe6226  No, she assumes the vaccine caused her daughters injury. That is not the case. What the actual truth was is that the vaccines triggered the seizure disorder her daughter was born with. That is not the vaccines fault, and the child would have developed seizures regardless of if she had been vaccinated or not. You should be compelled to get vaccines so these diseases don't manifest again, or become deadly again. But you should not be forced to have them.
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  492.  @scottpe6226  Considering I do my own research, I actually do know her story. Its not that hard to find that out when you do the research. Actually, she called her doctors out because they said there was no evidence that the vaccine was the cause, but acknowledged that the vaccine could have triggered a condition she had. It was on her social media. And that I agree with. But to say it CAUSED her injury is untrue.
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  493. You wear that tinfoil hat all the time?
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  494.  @yeoldebanjo5470  For two reasons. A) Because not everyone else can be vaccinated and B) Because you're a vector for mutations by not being vaccinated. They don't work the way you think they do. They're not designed to prevent you from getting the virus.
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  495.  @yeoldebanjo5470  They're designed to protect you from the complications associated with the virus by giving your immune system a jump start should you contract them. I'm glad you maintain a healthy lifestyle. That doesn't guarantee you won't get sick, especially as your immune system decreases. And those things will not prevent you from getting those diseases either. Vaccines are safe and effective. But it is your right not to use them. You should be held responsible for any damage you cause
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  496.  @yeoldebanjo5470  I know a woman personally who is serving 20 years for negligent homicide because she refused her daughter the chickenpox vaccine, which she ultimately died of. There are news articles from not so long ago of children dying from things like meningitis and pneumonia, and parents being jailed or fined because they would not vaccinate. Its not as benign as you think. You are well within your right to be against vaccination, but you will not be offered privileges others are, such as public schooling. And SHOULD something go wrong, you may have some serious issues.
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  497. So discredited hacks...conspiracy theories...and read information that has either been debunked or does not exist.... Sounds legit.
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  498. He said "the risks are far outweighed by the benefits". Learn to listen.
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  499. They won't say it here, but they'll definitely say that on social media.
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  500. Vaccines have occasionally caused seizures. This is documented. But they're usually mild, and are easily treated. They also don't continue.
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  501. Thats fine. Then you should be completely responsible if something happens. Odds of seizures from a vaccine: 1/3000 Odds of developing encephalitis after contracting measles: 1/400 Does the benefit outweigh the risk?
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  502. Because it is not your job to sue the manufacturer. That's how you get legitimate products to become unavailable. You go to vaccine court. The fact is, we know vaccines can have side effects. But we can also see the benefits that having vaccines have done. Now its up to you whether you take that chance.
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  503. No one in the US has died from a vaccine since 1991.
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  504.  @skinnycacitas66  Mmm. I'm not mad. Just pointing out statistics
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  505. While I don't think anyone should be legally forced to vaccinate, the problem with allowing anti-vax to spread is mutations. You place other people at risk for potential epidemics, like what happened with Ebola.
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  506. I'm sorry. It sounds like you may have been allergic. Good on you.
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  507. Mercury has not been used in any vaccines since 1996 and you naturally both absorb and ingest aluminum. All of what you just mentioned is already present either in the body, or consumed. There has never been a link showing that vaccines cause brain inflammation, nor that it penetrates the blood brain barrier.
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  508. They don't intentionally make things worse. Sometimes, unfortunately, your genetic makeup works against you. None of them are actively harmful.
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  509.  @naria2224  You implied it. Sometimes, medication makes things worse. That's not a reason not to take medication. Its a reason to talk to your doctor.
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  510. Correlation does not equal causation.
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  511.  @scottp7256  You realize he lost his medical license for misinformation spread about vaccines yes?
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  512.  @scottp7256  Actually he did. His license was suspended on July 28, 2018 for providing false information to parents. I do think people should be informed and make informed decisions. I do think vaccines can have harmful side effects. But to denounce them completely because of that and advocate that no one get vaccinated (which many anti-vaxxers do) is repulsive.
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  513. No, she shouldn't. Not unless it is found that the actual cause of her swollen lymph nods and rash were the actual vaccine. By the way, the flu vaccine isn't mandatory. She chose to get it. Hell, no vaccines are mandatory. You just don't have access to certain jobs or places without them.
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  514. Thats because he tempered his language because his license had been suspended.
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  515. You can. But you should also not be allowed certain privileges and should be held criminal and financially responsible for anything that happens.
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  516.  @3fa274  Public schooling is one. Your child should not be allowed to publically attend events and schools where they harm other people
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  517.  @3fa274  It is your right. But actively putting other people in danger is not your right. If you want to participate, you have to play by the rules.
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  518. Probably because the several anti-vaccine medical professionals I can think of, including the pediatrician shown here, lost their medical license to practice for endangerment.
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  519. Why do you always have to lump in vegans? We're not crazy. I just am healthier beging vegan :<
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  520.  @jameshewitt2083  Actually, it does. We have evidence of this. Has nothing to do with MSM.
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  521.  @Thekiko2501  That's not actually true. I'm not saying be afraid of it. Be alert, not anxious. But ot has caused scaring an abcesses on the lungs of those who get it.
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  522. The aborted fetal tissue is the orginal from the 1960's and moat vaccines do not have them, nor do they contain poison.
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  523. Because as time progresses, we now have a broader understanding of conditions. Its not that more kids are sickly, its that we have a broader spectrum of diagnoses. By the way, Autism is a birth condition.
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  524.  @skyrobin4008  Autism? Its a defect found at birth. Presently, we do know what causes it, though genetic factors certainly apply.
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  525.  @sidneynetherway7322  I believe the term you are looking for is MD. Not a PhD. MD refers to medicine. My point is the your comment insinuates that the reason people die are directly caused by vaccines, and that isn't true. If what you are trying to say is that vaccine's can exacerbate conditions that one may already have, which can then cause injury and death, then you are correct. That is why it's important for you to speak with your doctor thoroughly. Vaccines are not for everyone.
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  526. Nope. Not from the ones I've seen.
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  527. Then simply read the insert.
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  528. Because unvaccinated individuals can cause mutations in bacteria that causes a seperate strain that no one may be immune to.
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  529.  @sweetlikehoney8599  No problem.
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  530. Mercury has not been used in vaccines since 1996. Only certain strains of thr flu shot still contain mercury, and therimsol mercury has never been shown to be harmful. Chemical composition matters. You also naturally consume aluminum. Every time to eat fish or drink out of aluminum cans. Again, no research has ever shown that the amount of aluminum present in vaccines is harmful. Ever gotten an MRI or an X-ray? Ultrasound? CT scan? Thats exposing you to radiation. Yet you still do those things. There is no link between vaccines and autism. Autism is a disorder that's genetic. You are born with it or your not. Its not something you can get.
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  531. That is absoutely not true and proves you know nothing about the medical field. The doses start off relatively the same because everyone usually gets them at relatively the same time. But a 4 year old is not getting the same vaccine dosage as a 3 month old.
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  532.  @scottp7256  So am I. If you are giving a dose of a vaccine to a child the same way you are giving it to an adult (even though most people stop vaccine boosters after age 14) you should not have a medical license.
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  533. There is no middle ground when it comes to vaccines. There is middle ground to be had in whether vaccines should be mandatory, spread out longer, etc. But there IS NO middle ground to be had between whether or not they are helpful. And there is no middle ground when it comes to denying scientific facts.
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  534. Vaccines literally expose you to the virus. They help heard immunity as well. Medicine can and does go wrong. But to discredit decades of study and research because of fear is ridiculous. Thalidomide has been proven effective for certain conditions, such as cancer. Celebrex is also still on the market with increased warnings because of its heart attack risks. These medications have helped millions of people. This is why its important to speak with your doctor.
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  535.  @scottpe6226  Measles, Influenza, Whooping Cough, Mumps, Hepatitis...
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  536. Probably because he's on probation and is in danger of losing his medical license.
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  537. "Many" is a word that is loose at best. Sure, on its own. But in comparison to the population helped by vaccines, it isn't many. I have a child that was harmed by a vaccine. I will still vaccinate my children after discussions with my doctor. I know that my daughter is a rare case. If you do not know how vaccine court works, or why it works the way it does, don't pretend you do. Just because you can't sue a manufacturer directly (which there is a good reason for) doesn't mean they don't face hell if something goes wrong. It doesn't mean you aren't compensated. Very few people die of vaccines. Way more die of diseases these vaccines can prevent.
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  538. Why would people not be hostile against a group that goes against science and is directly responsible for harming people?
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  539. The point is, her faughter probably WASN'T the victim of a vaccine. She is ASSOCIATING her daughter's issues with a vaccine because the time frame correlates. If her daughter WAS the victim of a vaccine, she should be a proponent FOR vaccination to protect her child
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  540. "Deadly toxic chemicals and biological waste" just shows that you have absolutely no clue what is in vaccines. Almost everything in them is something you are either naturally exposed to or the body itself makes. Vaccines do not make you immune to a disease. They protect you against complications from an illness and make you more likely to have a mild case should you get the condition. Herd immunity is protecting those who cannot be vaccinated by allowing most of the population to be vaccinated, because vaccines allow the body's own immune system to wipe out a condition before it becomes communicable. Your argument is invalid because a) you have little understanding of what a vaccine is and b) there is no evidence that vaccines cause severe illness. You may have reactions and side effects like any medication. And that is something the be aware of.
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  541. Actually if anything, pharmaceutical companies lose on vaccines, since they're free almost anywhere.
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  542.  @scottpe6226  Natural infection to an active strain also carries a much more serious risk of potential spreading and life changing problems, things you claim to be afraid of vaccinations giving you.
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  543. You mean the pediatrician who got his medical license suspended for falsifying vaccine information to parents? Like everything in life, vaccines come with risks. Its about outweighing the risks vs the benefits. You're chance of having a seizure after vaccination is 1/3000. Your chance of dying from a secondary infection caused by measles is 1/400. Is it worth the risk? The chemicals used in vaccines differ, and some things you mentioned aren't even used anymore in a majority of vaccines. I don't mind people choosing not to get vaccinated, but they should be held accountable if they hurt someone. And no one should tolerate lies and misinformation to scare you, on either side.
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  544. Absolutely. You should research both sides and you should have the right to choose what goes into your child's body. On the flip side, a school should have the right to deny your child entry for being unvaccinated. You should also be responsible for any medical or legal trouble that occurs should your child suffer or cause harm to another child. If there are ingredients you do not like, ask your health care provider for options. Many of the vaccines can be given without cells or metals, if you are willing to pay a little more. The benefits outweigh the risk. But it should be up to you.
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  545. Technically, vaccination is already optional. Its not illegal to not vaccinate.
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  546. For the love of all that is holy, I hope you're joking.
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  547. You didn't get sick because you had the flu shot. Correlation does not equal causation
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  548. @Depressed Papaya That doesn't change the fact that their views are misguided and harmful. These people dhould be the most pro-vaccine.
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  549.  @scottp7256  And the evidence proves them wrong. So that's not an opinion.
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  550. You've never had a threatening sickness, in part, because everyone around you is vaccinated. Herd immunity exists. I don't believe most of your story, but I'll assume you're telling the truth. There are side effects to every medication. That is like saying "don't wear a seatbelt because seatbelts can break ribs". Its a risk benefit analysis. You don't get the flu from a vaccine. You get the flu by being exposed to the influenza virus, a virus that KILLS nearly 40,000 people a year. Want to know a way to prevent you from getting the flu or to lower your severity? The vaccine.
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  551. I wonder if the conspiracy theorists know that correlation does not equal causation and it is far more likely that these conditions are genetic? By the way, arthritis has never been linked to vaccines and vaccines can cause seizures in response to the initial injection. These, however, are nearly always temporary.
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  552. I wonder why. Maybe because they're proved to work?
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  553. If that story is true, which I doubt, but if it is, no. He got fired for giving false information. That child would have developed autism with or without the shots. Autism is GENETIC.
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  554. America isn't the only country with this issue.
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  555.  @michaelanderson9914  I never claimed a healthy baby is a danger to anyone. Also, no. That isn't how vaccines work. Take a microbiology class. Yes, the immune system is under stress. It almost always is. Thats because your body is building up an immunity. No, unvaccinated individuals put those who are or can't be in danger, because they are the ones that host the active live strain of the virus. Those viruses can also mutate.
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  556.  @michaelanderson9914  Actually, yes it is. You are nearly always battling something, especially in areas of extreme temperatures. More active and stable immune systems can fight these off with no problem. Those that have immune problems are typically the ones who always feel the full effects.
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  557. Yeah okay. Maybe you will, amd maybe you won't. What virus that we vaccinate for has little to no danger? Sure, you can still spread it. Though you are far less likely to than someone who has not been vaccinated. You don't have to get vaccinated (exluding the COVID vaccine in some areas which I 100% agree with you on.). No vaccine should be mandatory. But they are effective and are important.
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  558. I highly doubt it almost killed you, as seizures only are fatal if you fall or have a hemorrhage. I'm glad you're pro-vaccine, but as an epileptic who has daily seizures, I find the "almost died" to be overexaggerated and detrimental.
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  559. Except they are, and all post regularly about how no one should be vaccinated because they're are problems. Bob, by the way, lost his medical license because of his anti-vaccine stance.
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  560.  @billjohns1306  Because they knew if they had expressed their true stance, they'd be ripped apart. You cannot debate an objective fact.
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  561.  @billjohns1306  No, you completely misunderstand. When they regularly point out their views, its to people in their inner circle, unless you know them personally. To come to a huge medium and state what they actually think would get them embarrassed and berated by people on the opposite side. As far as Bob is concerned, his language is turned down because he was on medical probation for his license, and openly stating what he believes would have had it revoked. You don't understand how minorities work do you?
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  562.  @scottpe6226  I don't necessarily think your wrong. I don't think vaccines should be forced. But you should acknowledge the risk you do pose. You shouldn't be allowed in public school. And you should be responsible if someone gets hurt. I feel that way for both sides. Its the claims of illnesses vaccines cause that I disagree with.
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  563.  @scottpe6226  You don't have a right to PUBLIC education.
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  564.  @scottpe6226  No, not public education. You have a right to education. You don't need a public school for that.
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  565. Most of the ingredients used in vaccines are either completely unharmful, are only harmful in large doses, or things you naturally eat or take in other medicines. No child has died from a vaccine that has direct corrective since 1991. Thats almost 30 years.
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  566. Very few states have mandated the vaccine, but I agree. However, I know what they're trying to do with the mandates.
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  567. Yes they do.
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  568. Not the ones I've seen.
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  569.  @shapeshift13  Medical errors aren't even in the top 10 of the leading causes of death in the US. That is not to say medical errors do not occur, but I'm interested to know how a doctor ruined your life.
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  570. 1) The rabies vaccine is a series of shots over usually 6 to 8 weeks. It does nothing to a person that does not have the virus. 2) Not only does nothing in the Amish faith prevent people from getting immunized, the rate of VPD's are extremely high in the Amish community. 3) Nothing would happen. Vaccines are dead strains of a virus. 4) Because like everything else, side effects occur. Should I not trust my seatbelt because 1 in 77 people who die in car crashes die because of fractures caused by a seatbelt?
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  571. Vaccines do not cause catastrophic harm. That is simply fear mongering. Vaccines, like any drug, can have mild, moderate or severe reactions. There's no way to tell if a vaccine is damaging, because its not on its own. Its how the vaccine interacts with your body's genetic makeup. Nothing is put in them to cause harm or that does cause harm unless you're allergic to one of the ingredients. And for the last time, vaccines DO NOT and CANNOT cause autism. Autism is a GENETIC DISORDER. You are either born with it, or you're not. Period. They have. Vaccine court exists for a reason. When it ACTUALLY IS the vaccines fault.
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  572.  @amandadangerfieldpiano  And you jump to the assumption that the flu shot is what killed him? What was his official cause of death? Because if it had been verified that the flu shot killed him, that would have been worldwide news.
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  573. Because the small chance of you getting a reaction does not outweigh the potential life-threatening conditions that these illnesses bring.
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  574. Very few vaccines contain mercury and mercury comes in different forms. Take a chemistry course.
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  575.  @azreilrahman8735  Yeah the difference is the research backs up vaccines. I see dentists all the time promoting flouride free, but the amount use matters. Tuna contains more mercury than you would ever get in a vaccine.
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  576. Thats because you have a good immune system, probably eat healthy, live in a clean environment, and everyone around you is vaccinated.
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  577. Its because a non vaccinated person who is a carrier of a pathogen could be asymptomatic and allow that pathogen to mutate into a strain that no one is protected from, like what happens with the flu. The ebola pandemic in the Congo is a wonderful example.
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  578. The reason people make those jokes isn't to be funny. Its to emphasize the serious risk that anti-vax parents pose. If you sincerely refuse to get vaccinated at all on the grounds that vaccines have side effects, you don't deserve a healthy child. Because you cannot take care of it.
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  579. From what I have heard, no.
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  580. No, they are absolutely against vaccines. It took my all of 10 minutes to find facebook posts about them and the "issues" vaccines cause.
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  581. That is not how that works. Yes, it certainly strengthens their immune system, but it does not do what a vaccine does.
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  582. Children who aren't vaccinated are a danger to others. They risk those who can't be vaccinated and they are vectors for mutations.
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  583. Because vaccines don't protect you from getting the virus. They protect you from the severe, and sometimes lethal, complcations. Not only that, but your child could be a vector for mutation that is passed, no one is immune too. Sounds like you don't know how vaccines work.
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  584. Because it is if she's autistic. Autism is GENETIC! But depending on the severity, can start showing symptoms at a multitude of ages. The fact remains that many children who are autistic (especially more severe autism) show around the time they're getting vaccines. Your child would have ended up this way without the vaccine.
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  585. And yet they are finding out that they originate in unvaccinated children and actually no. Most cases are those that are immune compromised.
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  586.  @nicholasbogosian5420  You should really actually do more research into these people. If they were pro-consent, I would be more observant to what they have to say. But if you actually research these people (which is extremely easy), you'll find they are anti-vaccine and make statements that are outright disproven. In fact, Mr. Sears lost his medical license over his vaccine stance. Facts are facts, whether we like them or not.
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  587.  @pebbles987  1st off, there are plenty of individual studies on the ingredients used in vaccines. Secondly, no where in the country is the flu vaccine forced. You do not have to take the flu vaccine if you do not want to. There has never been any correlation between pregnancy complications and the flu vaccine. That is utter nonsense. Thirdly, they don't. I never signed a waiver when my children were vaccinated. That seems more to me like a case by case basis. If you are affected negatively by a vaccine, which can and does happen, we have a court specifically for that.
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  588. America is not the only country with anti vaxxers.
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  589. No. We as doctors do not get paid to give people vaccines. I have no idea where that notion comes from. The hospital pays the pharmaceutical companies to get vaccines and then we give them to people, often for little to no cost. Most vaccines are free. Even ones taken as an infant. At least in many places.
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  590.  @maddalenahylton  They can make money, but they do not make a profit. Especially since most of them are free. And neither vaccines nor epidurals are ever legally mandated.
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  591.  @maddalenahylton  Good. It should be. You are actively harming your child as well as others if you do not vaccinate, barring medical exemption. If you don't wish to vaccinate, homeschool your children.
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  592. No where in that case did the supreme court say they were "unavoidably unsafe." They acknowledged that they may have harmful side effects to some people. Vaccines do NOT contain mercury and haven't since 1996. Some vaccines contain an ethylmercury compound called thimerosal, which is harmless. Formaldehyde is naturally produced during metabolism and is in certain fruits such as pears. You would introduce more aluminum to your body drinking from a can or eating from a canned food. Polysorbate 80 is found in ice cream, barbecue sauce and most pickled products again, in much higher quantities. These ingredients are actually nothing to be concerned about when you can bother to research them.
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  593.  @themindofjohn4346  Those fetal cells were taken in the 1960's.
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  594.  @themindofjohn4346  Its a federal crime to sell aborted fetuses as "research". You keep believing your conspiracy theories. We either give the remains to the parents or dispose them as medical waste.
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  595. Vaccines don't work the way you apparently think they do.
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  596. He is using language like that because his license was on probation for his anti-vaccine views.
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  597. You realize the flu kills nearly 40,000 people a year, right?
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  598.  @jeice13  In the US. And regardless, that's more than need be. I'm not arguing for or against the flu vaccine. I'm saying that's why you should get a vaccine, since fatal complications can arise from the flu. If you don't want to think vaccines are necessary, thats you.
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  599.  @jeice13  That is not true and a number you made up in your head. Lets take the MMR vaccine. The odds of having reactionary seizures is 1 in 3000. The odds of developing encephalitis from measles is 1 in 400, and out of those, 1 in 175 will die. Vaccines are designed to protect you against complications that arise from these illnesses. You are a risk for bringing back these conditions when we don't vaccinate.
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  600. Mainly because there's nothing really wrong with the ingredients. They can cause side effects in certain people, but all medications do that.
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  601. What do these two things have to do with one another?
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  602. Probably not. I've met some that say COVID19 is a government population control virus...
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  603.  @Kennywinful  Its ridiculous really.
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  604.  @idk_14702  Good. Stay that way when schools reopen.
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  605.  @idk_14702  That's fine. And since home schooling doesn't have a "graduation" or a "grade-level" system, no. You haven't graduated anything. You also won't get into a college without a GED, so hopefully you have a family owned business or labor work you can go into.
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  606.  @laurac2031  While I certainly don't agree with the original comment, you not only strawmanned the argument, you are blatantly either lying or misinformed.
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  607. Reporting them doesn't mean vaccines were actually the cause. Some people will have adverse reactions.
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  608. Did you flunk biology? Viruses can survive outside of a host. Their life span is just shortened.
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  609.  @9z9z9z9  You don't spread it anymore with vaccines than you do any other way. You aren't prolonging its existence by vaccinating. In fact, you raise the risk of mutating it by remaining unvaccinated. We will never be rid of pathogens, but we can work towards eliminating as many as possible.
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  610.  @9z9z9z9  To seek something impossible is foolish. I can tell you failed biology, because you lack any knowledge about how diseases form
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  611.  @9z9z9z9  If you honestly think nothing is impossible, you are blind. That is not to say they will always be impossible. But they are in the realm of our current existence.
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  612.  @9z9z9z9  Acting without knowledge is stupidity defined.
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  613.  @9z9z9z9  I get the distinct impression you do not know how a virus works.
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  614.  @dianacollins6336  There is nothing in vaccines that you aren't already exposed to or that your body doesn't produce naturally. What do you think is in them that is so harmful?
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  615. Vaccines only last a certain number of years. Thats why you get boosters
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  616.  @immortalityovereverything  As a medical student, I can tell you that not only are you not a carnivore (because you wouldn't survive), but that is not how medical school, nor residency, is taught. And your immune system is mainly rooted in genetics.
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  617. If you can't trust doctors, then you'll always be a victim. If the vaccine hurt you, you need to push for medicine to move forward and for others to get vaccinated. It protects you.
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  618. Congratulations. You have everyone else being vaccinated around you to thank.
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  619.  @megangilliam6131  Are you only referring to the flu vaccine, or vaccines in general? A lot of people who get the flu shot get the flu because it mutates easily. Your original comment sounded like you were unvaccinated for anything. The message has nothing to do with the flu vaccine. Its to do with people being against the childhood vaccines.
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  620.  @megangilliam6131  The flu is a disease that often mutates and poses no risk to any healthy individual. The elderly, very young, or immune compromised are the only ones who could suffer severe harm from the flu. No, not all vaccines are probably necessary, but the push for anti vaccines are against ALL vaccines. That's problematic.
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  621.  @mm_A  Thats because chicken pox can open a child up to things like encephalitis and pneumonia. A woman I know is currently serving a 20 year prison sentence for manslaughter because her daughter got chicken pox and refused to vaccinate her, in which she ultimately died of secondary pneumonia.
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  622.  @mm_A  As far as I know, there was no article online as this was a state issue that happened before the internet was publicly available. Also, manslaughter is not a "newsworthy" topic, as it simply means accidental death as opposed to something like murder. Manslaughter is usually a state crime as opposed to a federal one. But I can see what I can find.
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  623. Yes it does. And it has been proven. Please go to medical school.
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  624.  @keeleycooper7296  Yes, honey. It does. How about doing some studying on the subject hmm?
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  625.  @keeleycooper7296  And I'm currently in my 2nd year of medical school. Herd immunity does exist, just not in the way most people think it does. No, I read your comment.
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  626. It was a mutated strain of measles no one was immune to.
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  627.  @shayshay2068  You can't have herd immunity from a virus that you have never been exposed to. Did you not read the "mutated" part?
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  628. We have hundreds of years of recorded history without vaccines where people were lucky to live until 50.
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  629. There has never been a link between vaccines and disease, let alone vaccines and autism. Autism is a disease you're born with. Oh by the way, no amount of food you eat will prevent you from getting these infections or the consequences that comes with it.
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  630. Because we have a court of law for that and it is illegal to sign a false contract.
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  631. Let me know how that goes when you get polio, mumps, measles, rubella or encephalitis.
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  632. They are also people who should have restrictions and face criminal consequences should their child or another child get sick. No law says you must be vaccinated.
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