Comments by "TombWraith" (@Tomb-Wraith) on "Can LGBTQ+ and Christians See Eye To Eye? | Middle Ground" video.

  1. @Avatar No, homosexuals can just generalize because the vast majority of religious people they have encountered have treated them poorly.
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  2. @Avatar How very Christian like. Being disgusted by your fellow man because they happen to be different than you.
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  3. Murder is not illegal because its a "sin". Its illegal because it violates the Constitution. If we had Bible standards, murder would be perfectly acceptable in circumstances.
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  4. @Alpha Meanwhile you have yet to prove your God even exists. Alsox love is a function of a brain.
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  5. Then you can keep being a close-minded ignorant asshole and stay the hell away from secular humanity that would prefer to move forward.
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  6. @Alpha Thats a no true scotsman fallacy. You can certainly be Christian and a member of the LGBTQ. Quoting the Bible doesn't make you right. You don't follow the Bible 100%.
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  7. In labs. Also, in what scenario would everyone in the world be gay?
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  8.  @Firstdon13  Gender has always been a social construct. The gay community is growing because now, it is acceptable by most people to be open. No parent just "teaches" their 8 year old that. They may influence them based on behaviors that have specifically been seen. You don't give children nearly the credit they deserve. Gays will never outnumber straights. At least not in any of our lifetimes. Yes it would be. They are made from human genetic material. Therefore they are human. The world is not sick. If you really believe the world is that terrible, feel free to leave.
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  9.  @havenhinton3775  You people are the very empotime of indoctrinated. Its absolutely astounding.
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  10. Then you don't love them. You cannot hate a "sin" that is part of someone's identity and love them. You are literally saying you hate part of who they are.
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  11. I would like some evidence of this so called God. And if someone loving someone else is a "failed standard" then fuck your standards. That makes me a better person than Jesus.
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  12. Oh my god. Morality doesn't equate to "sin". Sin only applies to religious people. Are you actually dense?
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  13. @Orinoco Flow And in what way does it do any of that? It only harms your intolerant feelings. Who are they harming? Your body is yours to do with as you see fit. Forcing someone to do something with their body their uncomfortable with because it makes YOU comfortable is disrespectful. You haven't demonstrated a God exists. Your right. God didn't make anyone. Because he probably doesn't exist. No, thats not how it is in your fantasies. That certainly is how it is in reality.
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  14. Then you do hate them. You are literally "disagreeing" with who they are as a person. Its impossible to like someone you do not recognize as an equal.
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  15. Religion is usually the cause of homophobia, and Christianity is the predominant religion in the West
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  16. @Sleepy Hollow Your own Bible is my evidence. People use the term homophobia as a disdain for people who are homosexual. Gee, I wonder where that disdain comes from? Oh right. Your 2000 year old book. Homophobia: dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people. Just because the term has a root word that means fear doesn't mean thats how the term is always used. Quit pretending you know how the English language works. You claim the supernatural as fact.
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  17. @Headless Horseman But others are. So if your God is so loving and powerful, why doesn't he step in? He either can't or doesn't want to.
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  18. Your ignorance is showing
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  19. You need to take a sociology class.
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  20. @Orinoco Flow When you flunk a biology and A&P course, you'll know why.
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  21. Sin doesn't exist unless you're religious.
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  22. @Orinoco Flow she didn't answer so I will. Yes. Got a problem with that?
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  23.  @oliviaw9077  Yes...millions of Christians who cannot agree on how to get to heaven or what the Bible actually says. Mhm. Very telling.
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  24. And here class, we have an example of a bronze age indoctrinated asshole who I am sure does not follow the Bible 100%
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  25. No sorry. Thats not how sex and gender work my friend.
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  26. No, you become a bigot when you actively try to oppose LGBTQ and try and prevent them from having the same rights you do. You're not a bigot for not agreeing with or believing in LGBTQ
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  27. @Sleepy Hollow Sin only exists to the religious.
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  28. @Sleepy Hollow Sin only exists in a world where you believe in a God and sin. I have never sinned because I don't believe in a God, therefore sin does not exist. It does not exist outside of a religious context unless you equate it with doing wrong. Question. What happens if your God is wrong? Have you ever considered that?
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  29. God sounds like a tyrant.
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  30.  Çerastes  If Hell exists, then no. God doesnt love you. A loving person wouldn't damn you for eternity.
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  31.  Çerastes  A loving person also wouldn't damn people to eternal punishment for a finite crime.
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  32. @Orinoco Flow No hon. Its ultimately Gods decision who goes to hell. And frankly, if there is a God and a hell, then God is a maniacal, evil, capricious prick.
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  33. @Orinoco Flow You're analogy fails however. Hell is eternal punishment for a finite crime. That is NOT love. For the record, why is disbelief in something a crime? That's not comparable to a substance that inflicts harm to you and others. Yes, you most certainly can blame the father. Because that isn't, based on secular humanism, what a loving parent would do. You simply cannot put SOLE blame on the father. Show me the proof of God. I cannot lose as an atheist. And just as I am now, you were born an atheist. The God of the Bible is a monster, unworthy of my love.
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  34. @Orinoco Flow I get the distinct feeling both of you assholes do a lot of things that violates Gods word. Because if you didn't, you'd be in prison.
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  35.  Çerastes  Yeah okay. I could quote you scripture about murdering those who dont believe. But you would just make up some excuse as to why your interpretation is correct.
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  36.  Çerastes  There are plenty of murder condones in the New testament as well
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  37. Accusing someone of being hateful when they are and are using religion as an excuse is not bigotry. Thats honesty. Bigotry is being intolerant of someone because their opinions are different. They don't dislike you. They dislike the hatred that you show towards them simply because of who they are.
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  38. @Orinoco Flow As an atheist, I can't hate something I don't believe exists. Nor is there any evidence to suggest the Bible is "truth". I hate the Bible because it is an excuse for people to degrade and shame others based on what it teaches.
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  39. @Orinoco Flow   Quoting scripture at me doesn't do anything. I don't believe in any of it. I hate what the Bible teaches. And congrats. You found a vague verse that can be applied to anything. Guess what? The Talmuid and the Quran also have verses like that. So why is your religion the correct one? I suppose everyone must hate the light because everyone does evil at some point. Guess we're all fucked. By the way, if you're trying to tell me how we date today is based on Christianity, you're actually deluded.
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  40.  @choloe  No it isn't. That is an inference you are making. No one believes all Christians are homophobic but homophobia stems from religion.
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  41. Yeah, hating the sin is still hating the sinner. And I'm sure they don't want bigoted, unsupportive jackass friends. Respect is not respect when you adovocate against their rights. You don't respect them because you care. You respect them because it saves face.
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  42.  @starofwonder1810  Their so called "sin" is a part of them. You hate their very identity. Stop using apologetics. You are. You clearly don't agree with homosexuality. And gays still don't have many of the rights straights have. Adoption agencies, for instance, can still turn you down if you're homosexual. Its not like marriage was all they were fighting for. The only bigot here is you. Your intolerant of someone just because a book said to be.
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  43. @Sleepy Hollow You are born homosexual. Try, as a straight person, getting sexually aroused by a member of the same sex. You either will (which means you're bisexual or pansexual) or you won't, which proves it isn't a choice. No matter how hard I try, I cannot be turned on by women, because I am not attracted to women. Because I'm straight. I didn't choose that.
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  44. @Orinoco Flow I'd rather spend eternity in hell than with your monster of a God.
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  45. Lol, you were never gay in the first place. You're simply bisexual.
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  46. Belief in the Christian God and Jesus Christ is all there is to being a Christian. Doesn't matter what other beliefs you hold.
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  47. @Alpha You actually don't have to be convinced of anything the Bible says (barring the Jesus story). Just that the Christian God is the supreme God and Jesus is the Messiah.
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  48. @Alpha Which is exactly what I said. You have to believe in the Bible's rendition of God and that Jesus is the messiah. That's it. Everyone who believes in God believes in something without evidence or with personal interpreted evidence. My point is there is no difference from believing in God and Jesus and a Christian, regardless of how you feel towards the Bible. I know some Christians that don't believe most of the Bible at all. That its just a parable or stories with morals.
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  49.  @andioop-7261  Repentance only deals with specific denominations. Some don't believe repentance does anything. Others think you can sin, but make up for it through good works, prayer, or meerly asking for forgiveness. "You aren't a real Christian" is a fallacy. Catholics and Protestants believe differently, but are both sects of Christianity.
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  50.  Çerastes  it's also not possible to believe in the Bible 100% and not be in prison. That's intellectually dishonest.
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  51. @Headless Horseman Sin only applies to people who are religious. I have no sin, as I do not believe in God. How am I the liar? You are the one who claims knowledge that you cannot possibly know. You are the liar.
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  52. @Orinoco Flow Uh-huh. Well I'm an atheist. Ask me anything you want.
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  53. @Orinoco Flow In all honesty, I don't know. This is one of the problems I have with Christianity. The 14,000 denominations.
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  54. @Orinoco Flow Once again, as long as you believe in the God of the Bible and that Jesus Christ is the savior you ARE a Christian. You cherry pick the Bible as well, because you would be in prison right now if you didn't. You're also talking to an atheist. Remember that. I don't believe in the monstrous God of the Bible, nor do I believe in his miracle bringing carpenter child.
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  55. Many conservatives identify as Christians.
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  56.  @user-pp8ru6uu1s  You clearly don't know the difference between biology and psychology. Sex deals with biology. Gender deals with psychology and sociology. "Slapping a dick on yourself" doesn't make your sex a boy. However, it does make your gender male if that is how you identify. Race is biological. Gender is not.
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  57.  @user-pp8ru6uu1s  No, actually. Gender is not binary. You can claim that denying that is the truth, but science doesn't support you on that. I don't think people who believe in God are crazy. I admit, as an atheist, they could very well be right. I just think they currently have no justification to believe in a God. Chromosomes are not the only determinants in sex. Chromosomes also aren't binary. Gametes are binary and are one characteristic used to determine sex.
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  58. @Sleepy Hollow Your sex is determined before birth. Your gender is based on sociological concepts. Take a biology class.
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  59.  @user-pp8ru6uu1s  Saying your gender is biological is just scientifically wrong. Its not. Your gender isn't determined in the womb. Your sex is. You could have male genatalia, but have feminine features phenotypically. If you're put in dresses all your life, refered to as "she" and look female, your gender would be female, even if your sex was male. Get it? Gender dysphoria is a thing. Look into it. Also, what happens when the child has any other chromosomal disorder? What about people born XXX, XXY or XXYY? Quit making genetics that easy. Its not.
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  60.  @user-pp8ru6uu1s  No, it isn't false because there is a difference between sex and gender.
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  61.  @user-pp8ru6uu1s  No, gender isn't sex. If you were born male, but live life as a woman, and you married a male, that would not be legally classified as "same sex marriage". Gender is never determined before birth. Sex is.
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  62.  @user-pp8ru6uu1s  And here's the definition of gender. either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female. See where it says SOCIAL AND CULTURAL?
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  63.  @user-pp8ru6uu1s  Mmm nope. I'd say it is.
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  64.  @davijr9877  Because you dislike and disagree with their very identity
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  65. "I love everyone but I actually don't because I don't believe in the very being of who you are."
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  66. @Orinoco Flow You are incapable of loving a person when you hate the very thing that makes them who they are.
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  67. @Orinoco Flow I do know the definition of love. I believe it is you that doesn't understand love.
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  68.  @relaxwithnature6532  You cannot love sombody if you dislike a part of who they are. You shame people into thinking they're wrong when you are actively against a part of what makes them who they are. That is NOT love.
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  69. @Orinoco Flow How would you like me to define it? Established definition? Colloquial definition? Personal definition?
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  70. @Orinoco Flow Which definiton? It has numerous. You're avoiding the subject because you look like an ass when you shame them into hating themselves while telling them its "because you care".
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  71. @Sleepy Hollow Stereotypes exist for a reason.
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  72.  @garretttamez7656  War doesn't violate the Constitution and if you wanna be technical, neither does execution. Though I am against the death penalty
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  73. @KingGino7 I'm in no way close minded towards people of faith. Im close minded towards bigoted assholes who use their faith as an excuse to hurt others
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