Comments by "TombWraith" (@Tomb-Wraith) on "Oceanliner Designs" channel.

  1. This is misinformation. Titanic was going a normal speed for the conditions that night.
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  2.  @stormbornapostle5188  True.
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  3. Funny thing is the only people who called it unsinkable were media outlets, and only after the disaster. She was however called "practically unsinkable", but that's more of a description than a belief.
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  4. No one said that.
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  5. Assuming you're referring to Ismay, why did he deserve to die?
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  6. This is absolutely not true. While the Californian was indeed the closest ship to the Titanic, she was still 12 miles away. Lord was not even made aware of the distress rockets until 1 am. At a dead stop, it would have taken her close to half an hour to move again, and even at her top speed, would have arrived at Titanic's location nearly an hour after she sank. Lord is unfairly villified because of Titanic's mistakes.
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  7. More lifeboats would not have helped.
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  8. It may not be them. YouTube will sometimes just put adds on videos.
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  9.  @sm1135ster1  If you actually did the research, then you would see statements from these men concerning the federal reserve. Its not gaslighting. Its correcting misinformation
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  10. This was never said.
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  11.  @marshallwilliams81  No it wasn't. This was a line made up for the movie. There is no historical evidence of this ever being said.
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  12.  @marshallwilliams81  A magazine is hardly a reference. And what was actually said was that the ship was "practically unsinkable." There is 0 historical evidence of the line "God himself cannot sink this ship."
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  13. That is such bullshit its laughable. While there was a class divide, most lifeboats were not filled to capacity simply because people would not get in them.
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  14. If that were the case, no 3rd class passengers would have survived.
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  15. This is not true. None of her designers claimed that. That was a line in James Cameron's movie based on the belief that her designers believed her to be "practically unsinkable."
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  16.  @ron2280  This has no evidence behind it and has continuously been debunked. These were seasoned sailors. They knew ships could sink. Due to her design, she was called "practically unsinkable." No where is there any evidence of anyone saying "God cannot sink this ship." There was human error, but the fact that everyone blames nothing but arrogance is ignorant.
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  17. @ron2280  It isn't a matter of belief or what you remember. It's a matter of fact of what is known through evidence and testimony.
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  18.  @DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY  Nope. I've simply corrected your misinformation and then provided sources of evidence, which you then refused to acknowledge because they disagree with your beliefs. That's called cognitive dissonance. You'd literally rather blame dead men who did the best they could with the knowledge of the time than accidental human error and the iceberg.
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  19. @DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY  Exactly as I said. I present you with evidence that your belief is wrong and you choose to disregard it. That's not my problem. If you want to continue believing theories from the 90's, that's fine. But I will keep correcting your misinformation. I have provided you with multiple sources. I started telling you to look it up when you stated my sources weren't good enough or you weren't going to read them. I even went back and checked comments (that YouTube didn't delete). In fact, the only 2 things I can find that we have severely disagreed on is that binoculars would have saved Titanic, and the Californian being able to save a great loss of life. I have never understood why you have been so hostile towards me, because we share a lot of them same viewpoints. Especially on correcting conspiracy theorists.
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  20.  @ron2280  Actually sick of YouTube deleting my replies. One simple Google search yields dozens of articles proving that line false. The quote "God himself cannot sink this ship" is considered a fake quote often attributed to someone associated with the RMS Titanic, representing the hubris of the time that believed the ship was "unsinkable" due to its advanced design, despite the fact it tragically sank on its maiden voyage after hitting an iceberg; no confirmed record exists of anyone actually saying these exact words. I am old enough to not take at face value things that are not recorded. I would love to see your evidence where it was said by an employee. Because it doesn't exist. The closest we get to that line comes from a magazine at the time. And it was an opinion of a journalist. Again, please provide the source you got yours from, and I'll happily provide mine as well.
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  21. @DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY  And yet not one record of it can be found. Gee, wonder why that is. Actually sick of YouTube deleting my replies. One simple Google search yields dozens of articles proving that line false. The quote "God himself cannot sink this ship" is considered a fake quote often attributed to someone associated with the RMS Titanic, representing the hubris of the time that believed the ship was "unsinkable" due to its advanced design, despite the fact it tragically sank on its maiden voyage after hitting an iceberg; no confirmed record exists of anyone actually saying these exact words. I am old enough to not take at face value things that are not recorded. I would love to see your evidence where it was said by an employee. Because it doesn't exist. The closest we get to that line comes from a magazine at the time. And it was an opinion of a journalist. Again, please provide the source you got yours from, and I'll happily provide mine as well.
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  22. This whole comment is a testament to false history. No one believed she couldn't sink, especially after it was confirmed she was.
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  23. Mostly untrue. Titanic did not ignore ice warnings. The ship was even steered farther south to avoid known ice flows. It was common practice to continue at a steady speed unless impeded by fog. Part of the reason for the empty boats is people would not get on them. Not within rescue distance. The Californian was between 12-15 miles away and was at a dead stop. She also was a steamship, and was not designed to carry passengers. She could have maybe held 50 passengers. Rockets were not only the wrong color but were fired at the wrong intervals. No one on the Californian ever stated to be able to see Titanic, other than what was known as a "false horizon" created by the conditions. In reality, the ships weren't that close.
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  24. Nothing but nonsense debunked decades ago.
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  25. That is not remotely how icebergs work...
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  26.  @crowbar_the_skull  What would me being an atheist have anything to do with this? Please provide one credible source that says any of Titanic's designers thought she was unsinkable.
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  27.  @crowbar_the_skull  You are the one making the claim. Therefore you are the one who needs to prove this was said. I could list you countless sources that refute this claim.
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  28.  @crowbar_the_skull  What would you deem credible then? Why won't you list sources backing this claim up?
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  29.  @crowbar_the_skull  And why is that, since you know absolutely nothing about me?
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  30.  @crowbar_the_skull  Well how am I supposed to fix the problem if you don't know what the problem is?
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  31.  @crowbar_the_skull  So you're telling me to kill myself? For what reason exactly? Not sure why being corrected about history makes you so angry.
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  32.  @crowbar_the_skull  Really? I like to think I've done quite a bit of good for the world. I'm proud of my life, even if it's hard sometimes. And yes. You were corrected about history, as the builders and designers of Titanic never "challenged" God.
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  33.  @crowbar_the_skull  I do my best to help those at their lowest through my career, so yeah. I do think I'm pretty great. You just seem like a bitter person who doesn't practice what they preach.
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  34. You fail to take into consideration how long it took to actually lower the lifeboats They didn't even have enough time to launch the boats they did have!
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  35. He's referring to her designers.
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  36. The Californian was still 15 miles from Titanic. Even if Lord had made the order to head towards Titanic, it would have taken him 90 minutes to get there, a full 10 minutes after Titanic sank.
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  37. ​ @CJ-zp7qj The iceberg Titanic hit broke off a glacier off the coast of Greenland and traveled much farther south than was thought possible.
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  38. This is not true. The Californian was not close enough to the Titanic to save her passengers, even had she fired up when she saw the flares. The Californian was also not a passenger ship. She was a cargo steamer with enough room for 54 passengers. The misinformation surrounding the Californian astonishes me.
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  39. No one said that.
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  40. You mean his role in working to get as many people on board the lifeboats as possible?
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  41. No one was liable. It was an accident.
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  42.  @OMADRevolution  They had more lifeboats than required.
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  43. The type of technology that you are probably thinking of wasn't even invented yet and would have actually made it harder to see.
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  44. It's not a matter of fitting on things. Its a matter of buoyancy. Mythbusters proved this years ago. Most of what could have been used to float on would not have saved people from hypothermia.
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  45. In 1912, lifeboats were based on tonnage. Not passenger count. They were designed to act as ferries to another ship, not to be stayed in.
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  46. Segregation was common on all vessels during this time, and the empty seats have a lot more to them. No one was intentionally trying to kill 3rd class.
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  47. It would have sank quicker. The Britannic tried to do this when she struck a mine, and it only forced in more water.
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  48. ​ @lovelysosweet8386 Yes, they believed Titanic was unsinkable. But it was never stated that "God himself can not sink this ship."
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  49.  @adamirishconundrum851  Lies
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  50. Not at all going to mention that passengers refused to get in them?
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