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Has reform ever been truthful??
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Imagine paying to be a member to have zero member privileges or there being any point to being a member of that political party.. Reformers. I bet if you asked, they wouldn't have a clue what their membership gets them..
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@Noel-ji8nm Rachel Reeves actually said, "Labour would not pursue mass nationalisation of industries if it wins the next election." So it wasn't even in their manifesto.
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@Noel-ji8nm But that would have been something they offered in their 2020 manifesto. They've had a 2024 manifesto since then... But OK... Labour 2020 manifesto: 1) We'll build homes 2) Equality in healthcare 3) Better pay and job security 4) A fair start for every child 5) Climate justice And that's it. Where is their policy on nationalising gas, electricity, trains, water etc? Anyway next Labour "lie"...
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@Noel-ji8nm I'll give you a fun one.. Reform said they'd introduce a 2 year probation period for police officers. But that is already a requirement. 🤣🤣🤦♂
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@Noel-ji8nm Reform on their tax proposals: First they claimed that people on benefits would benefit the most, but it was then pointed out that those on benefits don't pay any tax.. So they changed tack and claimed it would benefit the poorest in society. But analysis revealed that it would actually benefit those on £95,000 the most. 🤦♂
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@Noel-ji8nm What has Labour lied about?
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@Noel-ji8nm You answer mine and I'll answer your. Deal?
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@Noel-ji8nm Should we do a show down? You point out a Labour lie and I'll counter with a reform lie and we see who runs out of lies first. Then we can see which ones you lied about.
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@Noel-ji8nm reform claimed we are experiencing "record crime". but the data shows that crime peaked in the 1990s and has been steadily falling since. 1-0 to me so far. But a bit of an own goal on your part by lying about a lie Labour told.. Next.
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@Noel-ji8nm Scraping the barrel already? Having to go back to their 2020 manifesto to find a lie??
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@Noel-ji8nm Come on Noel.. Keep up!!! You next. A Labour lie?
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@Noel-ji8nm Remember when farage lied about being given advice by Commons authorities, not to hold surgeries with constituents for security reasons. 🤦♂
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@Noel-ji8nm Reform said the Office for Budget Responsibility had looked at the reform "contract" (that's what they call their manifesto..) But it was pointed out that they do not scrutinise opposition manifestos, that would require a change of the law. 🤦♂
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@Noel-ji8nm Reform said that Labour didn't even mention immigration as part of their manifesto, but their 3rd pledge (out of 6) was to launch a border security command specifically focussed on immigration and tackling criminal boat gangs. 🤦♂
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@Noel-ji8nm Reform claimed that Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Bahrain refused to take in any Syrian refugees, when in fact they had. The Saudi government alone accepted 2.5 million refugees. 🤦♂
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@Noel-ji8nm Reform claimed that 70% of our laws were made by the EU. In fact it was 13.2% 🤦♂
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@Noel-ji8nm "While seeking power, Starmer publicly backed 1950s Waspi women's fight for "fair and fast compensation" after the state pension age for women was hiked by five years." - That isn't a lie. It wasn't an election promise either. They changed their mind when they discovered it was no longer viable. I agree with them. The WASPI women had since 2010 to get their ducks in a row. And the retirement age was fully implemented in 2019. But again, this isn't a lie.
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@Noel-ji8nm "Starmer led us to believe that Labour would retain the Winter Fuel Payment, and said nothing about scrapping the £86,000 cap on social care costs for elderly and disabled." - Saying nothing about scrapping the £86,000 cap on social care costs for elderly and disabled. Isn't lying though .. Labour means testing the winter fuel allowance without stating they'd do it before the election isn't lying. You said Labour lies like reform lies. I've listed actual lies. You've suggested a few things you aren't happy with.
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@Noel-ji8nm I don't see that in their 2024 manifesto. Where do they pledge to increase NI? Or where in the manifesto does he pledge to not increase taxes for working people?
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@Noel-ji8nm "Labour says no ge no cid e in Gaza." - There you go. You've found 1!
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@Noel-ji8nm Your listing pledges he's gone back on or hasn't implemented yet. Reform are simply straight out lying. Do you have any examples of actual lying? Labour hasn't finished their 1st year of their term yet, so you can't comment on what they have and haven't achieved. All these pledges you say he has u-turned on could again be u-turned on again, and implemented by your own logic. Where are the actual lies? Like saying refugees are illegal immigrants, or lying about the name and citizenship of a criminal to incite violence against a group of people? 🤷♂🤷♂
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@Noel-ji8nm "Thst's the tip of the iceberg" - you mean you have run out of things you don't agree with masquerading as lies..
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@Noel-ji8nm "Starmer lied when he said he didn't say Israel has the right to cut off water and power." - When did he say he didn't say it. That'd be a bit silly when there's video of him saying it.
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@Noel-ji8nm I watched that video and he went on to clarify his position. which I completely don't agree with, but he didn't lie and refuse to admit he said what he said.
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@Noel-ji8nm Those weren't election pledges. They were to gain the leadership of the party. You keep having to go back to 2020 which is irrelevant to me. I'm giving you examples of actual lies. Not things reform said they'd do but haven't done. Disappointing though that might be. Labour weren't even in power and your banging on about pledges he hasn't done. This is 2024. Totally different landscape. A u-turn on a pledge isn't the same as straight out lying. Like saying a country hasn't taken any refugees when they've actually taken on 2.5 MILLION of them. Or saying the EU made 70% of our laws when it was 13%! I voted Labour for a couple of things they said they'd do, but I have to wait 4 years before I can say they haven't done them!
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@Noel-ji8nm The only area I don't like Labour on is their stance on Israel, which is changing, and their approach to unemployment. You pointing out the former are legitimate lies I'll concede on. I'm not a starmer fan boy. You claimed Labour lie LIKE reform do, and that simply isn't true. You then lied about what labour had in their manifesto that weren't in either their 2020 or 2024 manifesto!
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@Noel-ji8nm He changed his pledges over the last 4 years as the world around us all changed and priorities changed, like they did on literal day one of Labour gaining power and getting to actually look at what 14 years of tories actually left for us all. Ooh what a liar.. He didn't make up one lie and present it as fact. Whereas pretty much EVERYTHING reform bang on about is based on a lie or is the actual lie. Their "contract" (cringe) in some cases would require a change in the law!!! 🤦♂ But I noticed you haven't commented on ANY of their lies. 🤷♂
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@Noel-ji8nm You'll have to wait 4 years to see if he lied.
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@Noel-ji8nm No. You are willing to lap up their lies. 🤡
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@Noel-ji8nm Do you think a foreign investor should be allowed to buy the UK election?
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@Noel-ji8nm Then you'll have to wait until the end of their term. Once again. No lies there. You're struggling to identify what a lie is mate. No wonder you like reform.
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@Noel-ji8nm Weird. All you can point to is pledges they haven't done yet or u-turned on as circumstances change.. 🤷♂
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@Noel-ji8nm You lied about what Labours pledges are/were. You went back to pledges made in 2020. But you lied and those weren't pledges made in 2020 either.
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They have merch with MBGA on it 🤣🤣And they've defaced the Union jack by colouring it light blue and white. Put a bit of purple in there and there'd be an outrage!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@Paul-je7bo Nah. They're all drinking the racist cool-aid and there's no reasoning with them. You can keep correcting them, and they keep repeating the same, "Illegal immigration" lies they lap up. They don't even know what our present government is doing as they are listening to the lies the other parties say about that, and they don't bother to check what is actually going on. Are you speaking of yourself here? Should we see how many you score on the bingo card of misinformation?
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