Comments by "Vic 2.0" (@Vic2point0) on "Styxhexenhammer666"
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Sad thing is, this video barely scrapes the surface of Bernie's lies. Remember when he said that white people don't know what it's like to be poor? And yeah, he calls Scandinavian countries socialist (or "democratic socialist"), when in reality they're more capitalistic than we are!). But he also likes to accuse Trump of things that he's the one doing. Like, he says Trump is dividing the nation but he's the one promoting class warfare (e.g., against "the billionaire class"). He also says Trump is racist but he's the one making assumptions about blacks vs. whites as mentioned before... Actually, that example would work as an example of him lying, dividing, and being racist!
There's also the sleight-of-hand he pulls when it comes to our healthcare system, which you touched on. How much does it cost the American people? Not over 3 trillion dollars, more like 365 billion.
https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/NationalHealthExpendData/Downloads/highlights.pdf
There's more, but you get the idea.
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@worldwidehappiness Nope. That just resulted in that comment being deleted too (sigh) In summary, the top 1% actually pays the highest income tax rate out of everyone. And if Bernie were sincere about following Scandinavia's model, he'd be against penalizing the wealthy with high corporate tax rates, against minimum wage laws, and for school vouchers. But he doesn't really want to be like Scandinavia, he's more interested in giving the government more power. Which, BTW, is why companies lobby politicians and government officials to do their bidding, because the government has so much control over the market to begin with. I don't think it's true that people on average are making less today, either; the median household income has gone up more than $4,000 since Trump took office. Lastly, healthcare prices skyrocketed due to government intervention in the 60s (with the advent of Medicare and Medicaid). Demand was radically increased while supply was hindered. And the supply part gets worse every year.
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@phoenixobrien163 Well for starters, it's not that I'm calling lies and exaggerations "free speech", it's that they literally are part of having free speech. But the great thing is, if you maintain freedom of speech, then you can correct the lies and exaggerations on both sides of the political fence. So whether you think the Democrats or the Republicans are the primary sources of corruption, lies, etc., you should be in favor of an open forum in which they can be exposed.
"It's the same as calling Fire! in a packed theatre when there ain't no fire."
It is by no stretch of the imagination the same as shouting fire in a crowded theatre (which is legal, BTW). We are talking specifically about someone being able to make a claim and someone else being able to refute it.
Now the interesting thing is, you go on to say that because there's so much lying on the political right (according to you), that's why we need a government-run agency to censor those lies. But surely you realize that your favorite politicians will not always be in control of these agencies. What happens when the next Donald Trump or just any Republican for that matter holds the reins, and adds in their limitations on what they consider Democrat lies? I don't think you've really thought this through. The power we just hand over to the government will be wielded by good and bad people alike. And if it's true that power corrupts, we'll end up with mostly bad actors calling the shots.
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