Comments by "Vic 2.0" (@Vic2point0) on "ReasonTV"
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More shit from the American Anti-Theists Pretending To Represent Atheists. What an embarrassment they are, seriously.
"You know it's a myth... and you have a choice".
WE don't even know it's a myth, how tha fuck do you figure they do? And of course they have a choice, Capt. Obvious. Way to spend your thousands of dollars, educating the public!
"We're not trying to convert anybody."
Why of course you're not...
"(What we're trying to do is) raise awareness to the atheists in the Hasidic communities, that the movement exists, that we know they're here."
I'm sorry, I've misplaced my incoherent drivel dictionary, uhh...
"We have respect for people. We do not have to have respect for beliefs."
Now where have I heard that before... Oh yeah! Christian fundamentalists! "Hate the sin, not the sinner", I got ya, I got ya. That's some impressive logic you got there, Dave.
Well hopefully very few people will believe that your organization actually represents atheists in general. Hopefully most will see through it. You are a merchant of intolerance, and you have my pity. Good day friend.
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mikewalker678 "Yeah, we also don't know if fucking goblins are real or not, because we need to treat all myths as if the likelihood of truth is 50/50. That makes sense."
Well that's not what I suggested, now is it? But a little honesty couldn't hurt.
"Also, let me explain what they mean by not converting anyone. Obviously, no one is going to radically alter their own belief system by reading a sign. However, a sign that reminds them that they're not alone in thinking Judaism is a myth MAY convince them to come out of the closet."
Or, it may make them all the more hesitant to do so, seeing as how now upon coming out as an atheist they're likely to be considered an anti-theist! If we want the negative stereotypes of us all being condescending assholes, it would really help if those organizations that claim to represent us... you know, not be that.
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@Jokutällane Vaa "Learn abt the middle age cast system and you'll see what capitalism can cause."
Or, you can make your claim explicit. What did bring about the harms of the middle age caste (not cast) system?
"Basically to survive in capitalism, you have to be perfect."
Easily refuted, since no human being is perfect, yet the vast majority of human beings survive (and many thrive) under capitalism.
"Disabilities aren't allowed,"
Of course they are, and many who have disabilities (some of whom despise the term "disability", BTW) also found ways to survive and even thrive in capitalism. And I mean specifically by finding ways nevertheless to earn income. Some even run businesses of their own.
"so if you're missing an arm you're as good as take behind a barn and shoot."
Jesus, is that what your worldview thinks of people with disabilities? Because mine doesn't.
"With socialism MIXED IN you'll provide him with a prostetic arm,"
You mean I'll be forced to pay for someone else's prosthetic arm, or wheelchair, or eye surgery, or new liver, or any of countless other things we say they need to be successful (when they don't).
What you don't realize is that capitalism also brings about charity such as this. Indeed there were all sorts of nonprofit charitable organizations which sprang up back when there was no income tax, no way of getting reimbursed with (stolen) money from the government at the end of the fiscal year, etc.
The only necessary difference is how they spring up - by people voluntarily choosing to pitch in, or by the government stealing the money and (hopefully, eventually, and with varying degrees of competence and results) passing that on to those who need it.
"and he's good to go and become something."
Or, he's dependent on the unreliable government system and he and his descendants are likely to remain in the slums. Let's keep in mind the War on Poverty did nothing but slow the speed at which the poverty rate was going down.
"Example is Japan, great for the normal. But the moment you're disabled, mentally ill etc. You're thrown outside society."
Well this seems to be exploring a different question, this being "Is capitalism enough for everyone in the nation to thrive?" And I would say certainly not. You also have to share certain basic principles and assumptions regarding human decency which a cultural thing.
Now, of course, here is where I could point to various socialist countries and how people are being treated there. But honestly I think we'd be better off comparing apples with apples. Better to look at the U.S. and the effects these policies have had on it. You see, the U.S. is not an example of capitalism gone wrong, simply because we are far less capitalistic than we were a hundred or so years ago. Indeed, there are some who'd argue we're no longer a capitalist country at all.
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