Comments by "Vic 2.0" (@Vic2point0) on "Washington Post" channel.

Transgenderism is a completely incoherent worldview, sorry. Every time I ask a trans person how they "knew" they were actually the opposite gender, they inevitably start talking about gender roles. They don't seem to understand the difference between gender and gender roles at all. Also, when I ask them if they'd ever call a white man black (if that's how he identified) they always say "No". And they're never able to explain the hypocrisy there.
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Sex and gender are one and the same, and we've known this for a long time now. It's the very reason the roles we're expected to play based solely on our biological sex are called "gender roles" to begin with. And when you say "gender is a social construct", you're confusing gender itself with gender roles and norms. Furthermore, it's messed up to lump gay and bi people in with those who've subscribed to this incoherent worldview. Sexuality is a very different thing. Also, the conservatives are right - there are only two genders/biological sexes. And while it isn't always as simple as genitalia or even chromosomes, there is a binary: those whose development involved both an active SRY gene and active androgen receptors are male, while the rest are female. This is why there are only people whose development was structured largely toward the purpose of producing large gametes (eggs) or small (sperm). There is no third gamete, just like there is no third gender. Finally, what is with Democrats making a mockery of every group they claim to represent? Don't you realize "queer" and "persons of color" are just recycled bigoted terms that were originally used against these groups? And don't even get me started on "latinx", lol.
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@neonlight6771 And the evidence that Floyd's death had something to do with racism is...?
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@mariamaoya26 So every time a white man kills a black man, it's racism? Police brutality in general has been like this for years. Look up Tony Timpa, a white man who was killed by cops in almost the exact same way as George Floyd about 10 months ago. Also look up Daniel Shaver, a white victim of one of the most sickening displays of police brutality ever. Just because CNN and MSNBC aren't reporting on it (because it doesn't help their "America is racist!" narrative) doesn't mean it isn't happening.
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@danielmacdougall2697 So you seem to have dropped the point about brain studies, after my response to it. Let's move on to my question, on whether or not you'd call a white man black if he told you that's what he identified as. "How are Race and Gender equivalent." Notice that you were the one to first make the claim that they are different. I presumed you meant there was some fundamental difference which would justify refusing to call the white man black (despite that being his identified race and his request) but not justify refusing to call a man a woman. So I challenged your claim; the burden of proof's on you, not me. "your argument against scientific research," What research? Can you tell me exactly what you think it has proven? And how? "Still sounds like your basing your claims on YOUR FEELINGS about both subjects." No, just the incoherence of transgenderism as a worldview.
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@danielmacdougall2697 "Just a little tip, it's not actually the size and shape of the brain (smirk) that makes the difference," Oh? So how else do you determine that a brain is a "male brain" or "female brain", because that's all I've heard about from trans people and trans advocates (when they bring up brain studies) so far. "As to the black fella white fella thing. You're wrong, I would call a white skinned indigenous Australian a black fella." But you would still appeal to objective facts, rather than solely what they identify as, is my point. You wouldn't refer to an Englishman as black, even if he told you that's how he identified. "Answer the question about someone of mixed ethnic origin." It's irrelevant to my question and the topic, as I explained. But sure, I would recognize a mixed person as mixed just as I recognize men as men and women as women. "It has no relevance to gender at all" True, but it is very relevant to the reasoning used to pressure me into calling a man a woman and vice versa. In short, if you can't adhere to the reasoning, you can't expect me to. "and is racist as far as I'm concerned." There is absolutely nothing racist about just mentioning people's skin color 🙄 "Burden of Proof, lol, you do realise this is YouTube ? It, kind of, doesn't work like that, sorry" Sure it does. Your claims can be challenged and exposed as unfounded no matter where they are uttered. "I don't feel any burden at all," Just like with transgenderism and being a man, you don't have to "feel" that x is true for x to be true. "in fact, if anything it's been quite enjoyable." Obviously, this isn't what the word "burden" in "burden of proof" means. But yes, I enjoy it as well!
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@danielmacdougall2697 "Some of the trans people I know would easily fool you, you've probably walked past transmen before and not even realised." This isn't relevant to aaaany of the points I made (before you began stalling in your last comment). Are you just dropping all of those arguments now? "I'm not sure why you're so scared they are such a small minority and are no threat to you. " Well part of the problem is you're just making up the premise that I'm somehow "scared" of trans people. My comment has consistently been that transgenderism is incoherent. And I agree, transgenderism is no threat to me (besides people trying to compel speech perhaps). It seems to be a huge threat to trans people themselves, however, if you look at the suicide rates. "I don't imagine any would want to friends with you anyway" Mature people would. It's only immature people who can't be friends with someone just because they disagree with them on a few things.
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@mariamaoya26 What's clear is that the MSM and the Democratic Party want to convince Americans that there's some huge problem of systemic racism so much, that they will intentionally magnify cases where the victim is black and hide cases where the victim is white. It's also clear that people are just assuming George Floyd's death was about racism, but there isn't any evidence of that at all.
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@danielmacdougall2697 Are you giving up? Because you didn't even attempt to make a point this time...
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Super awkward guy, unlikable personality (IMO), but I love the job he's doing as president so I'll definitely be voting for him this time.
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How the hell did Black Lives Matter attach themselves to the George Floyd protests, that's what I want to know. Where's the evidence that his death had anything to do with racism? Nowhere, exactly.
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Ouch, guys. If I didn't know any better, I'd say the majority of the U.S. is hip to your bullshit.
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Trump's been doing a great job, so I'll be voting for him this time. Record-low unemployment rates (especially for minorities), increased wages, prison reform, Right to Try, lower prescription drug prices, the list goes on and on. Plus he understands economics and the fact that free market principles work best. No offense to Bernie and all; I do think he means well, but we've been letting the government essentially control the healthcare industry for decades now and it's only made things worse.
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@Daniel Macdougall Well I do still think (because you've proven yourself to be that juvenile) you had something to do with the censorship. But yeah, I'll go ahead and post my refutations again, why not? ""So, “People with mental health disorders also have ... “ You really think that is an argument against science ? " No, I think it is a part of my statement you conveniently chopped up. But the point is that since people who have mental disorders (which we would both recognize as mental disorders) also tend to have brain abnormalities, this does nothing to validate the claims of someone with a differently shaped or sized brain at all. It could just as easily explain why a man thinks he's a woman, as it could serve as some confirmation that he is. "Race and Gender are different things." So you claim. But you've failed at every turn to point to the fundamental difference. "Q: What about if the person you choose is inter racial ?" That would be irrelevant to my question, which was, what if a white man identified as "black?* Would you or would you not call him black?
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@danielmacdougall2697 Unsurprisingly, my response to you was deleted. But in short, there are multiple problems with the whole "brain" angle, chief among them being that even people with mental disorders have brain abnormalities; it doesn't mean that whatever they think or feel or believe is true. Secondly, read my post again about white men identifying as black. It's a good point if you actually try to acknowledge it.
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@danielmacdougall2697 Why do you keep deleting my comments, that's the real question...
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@danielmacdougall2697 Nice try, but I responded to the two you posted back-to-back. And I suspect the person who's juvenile enough to insult people for no good reason deleted them.
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Ain't nobody whiter than Ms. "tippy top" anyway, except for when she's trying to act black of course.
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So what to think. Is it good, bad... double plus good, double plus bad...
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@Robert Corfield Yes, it is exploitation, but I'm not saying she's been brainwashed. We're not so concerned with whether or not she's been forced/coerced to believe certain things; the question is, are people taking advantage of her feelings on the matter with a total disregard for whatever harm it may cause her, for the sake of a political agenda. And I think they very clearly are. "She would have no reason to question them since after all they are scientists who have studied climate change." More like, she knows of no reason to question them. But that's part of the problem too. She should be informed of just how unreliable these scientists and other "experts" have proven themselves to be. "Her distress seems to be caused by the intransigence of people who are refusing to accept that we need to act now in order to prevent greater environmental disasters: flooding, drought etc." These are the same types of predictions that were false in the past. And even granting the general premise that at some point it will be "too late" to prevent a "mass extinction", what's got her so troubled is the idea that it's inevitable (and imminent) unless we do certain things within a certain window of time. "But this would not mean exploitation : the people exaggerating the threat could be just mistaken as opposed to telling lies in order to manipulate Thunberg." While I highly doubt that no one she's interacted with so far knows about the false predictions dating back to the 60s, the point isn't that she's being intentionally deceived. It's that they can see for themselves that this isn't healthy for her and yet they encourage her to keep going anyway. "I think Thunberg should be advised of the pushback etc and the possible abuse that she might receive," True, but it seems pretty one-sided, to want to warn her about the big, mean conservatives while not saying a word to her about what trauma the climate hysteria itself could cause. "it seems to me it would be oppressive to deprive her of her voice on an issue she feels strongly about." She. Is. A. Child. And children often want to do all kinds of things that will cause them harm or put them in danger. It's the parents' job to say, "No, you are going too far with this and it's not good for you, so you're not going to be involved in it anymore (or at least for a while)". "Just because a person makes an unwise decision, does not mean we should deprive them of their autonomy." Setting boundaries, especially regarding something very specific =/= depriving someone of autonomy. "If she was so deprived, it could cause even greater distress, because the politicians would still not be taking the necessary action to combat climate change and she would not be able to do anything about it." Make no mistake: Removing your child from a dangerous situation is only the bare minimum expectation, it doesn't make you a good or even decent parent. The second thing you want to do is inform your child about what's got them so afraid. You don't just let the child sleep in your room for fear of monsters under their bed, you show them there aren't any monsters there in the first place.
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@danielmacdougall2697 Okay, so you've completely dropped the point about brain studies, after I explained that even people with men tal dis ord ers (people we would both agree have men tal dis ord ers) show physical brain abnormalities. I pointed out that this shows we do not say that their beliefs and thoughts are valid on that basis, so it doesn't mean anything when applied to the trans debate. Similarly, you seem to have avoided the challenge to explain the fundamental difference between race and gender, that would obligate me to call a man a woman (solely because he identifies as such) but not obligate you to call a white man black (on the same basis). You attempted to shift the burden of proof back onto me, asking me how they're equivalent, but when I pointed out that you were the one that made the claim, that argument was dropped also. "Unless you've actually eye balled their junk how can you REALLY know what someone is sporting in their trunks ?? You may have friends with secrets that surprise you :0 Has every friend of yours seen your genitals ?? How do I know for that matter ????? ps pine cones don't have visible bits, phew" All of this is irrelevant to the incoherence of transgenderism itself. But I can say that I'm not going through my life wondering who is or isn't trans, if that's your concern. "And what difference does it make if the cuffs don't match the collar, unless you're about to get busy, who cares :)" In theory, it should be so simple. But again, we're talking about your most vocal representatives trying to compel speech as well. Trying to force people who do not agree with transgenderism to call men "she" and "her", and to call women "he" and "him". That's in addition to concerns about public restrooms, women's sports, how it's being promoted to children, etc. But even if you say, "I don't care about all that, they're all just transphobes!", you should at least care that trans people, even after they get their surgeries, are 18 times more likely to commit suicide than non-trans people. "General consensus is that it's often due to discrimination and lack of acceptance." Except that there are no studies showing a difference in suicidality in places where it is more accepted vs. places where it is less accepted. Besides which, the rate difference should be zero. And if these people didn't believe that they were somehow a different gender from their biological sex in the first place, they wouldn't have these internal struggles which lead to the depression and suicide attempts at all. "Why do transgender issues have to be coherent to you ? if you are unaffected ? " We're all affected by absurdity sooner or late, whether directly or indirectly. I listed a few of the ways that can happen already. But people should strive to hold a coherent worldview regardless, especially those who end up depressed and suicidal as a result of their worldview. "Surely it's up to the individuals involved to make sense of that." And so far, no one's been able to do it. They just yell "transphobe!" at the person asking questions and run off.
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@danielmacdougall2697 Obviously, there is nothing racist about what I said (and you are still evading the points I made on the topic we were originally discussing). But just for clarity's sake, do you just mean black people who live in England or what? You understand the question, at any rate; but you're stalling a ton. Is it because you can't come up with an answer? Once again, what if a white man (who isn't black, since I have to spell that out for you) says he identifies as black? Would you or would you not call a white man black if he asked you to? That's the question.
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@13bgunbunny42 I didn't vote in '16. Like a lot of people, I thought both Hillary and Trump were bad choices. But Trump's proven himself a good fit for the job since then. And the left has done nothing but get crazier, so if only as a defensive maneuver, I plan on voting for Trump personally.
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No evidence of actual racism, but I do love the job he's doing and will definitely vote for him this time.
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I just hope they kept a close eye on Bernie to make sure he didn't steal anything.
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@danielmacdougall2697 Well I specified one of the problems with the whole "brain chemistry" angle, which you've yet to respond to. But another problem is simply that we all know that if a man who identified as a woman didn't have a "female brain", you would still call them a woman so the point is moot regardless. I suspect that whatever you're talking about in Australia isn't the same as "white" and "black" are conceptualized here in the States. Because here, it's understood that a white man is not a black man; they're entirely different ethnicities. And as I said, trans advocates agree with me on that, because they always say "No" to the question. As in, they wouldn't call a white man black solely on the basis of him identifying as such.
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