Comments by "Vic 2.0" (@Vic2point0) on "Ben Shapiro SHOCKED He Radicalizes People" video.

Nice try, but you guys still have no case. Until you can point us to where Shapiro actually supported white supremacy, Naziism, or whatever you're trying to blame him for, it's just BS.
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And still neither of you can point out specifically where he supported white supremacy or Nazism.
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@alejandrocamacho9725 Lol, exactly! (or at least I'm assuming you're being sarcastic)
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@TheLostArchangel666 "He himself did not." Well I thank you for being honest about at least that. "What he /did/, and still does, do, is provide a vital link in the downward spiral that leads towards such sentiments. Testimony of countless people that have escaped this "alt right pipeline", as it's been labelled here on the left, prove as much." But you (and I'm guessing they) are still being incredibly vague. What does this "vital link" look like? Aren't you really just saying that Shapiro and the alt-right have some views in common? "Seek out these things for yourself I suppose?" What do you think I'm doing right now, talking to you guys? :)
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@TheLostArchangel666 But doesn't that just mean you're not really searching for the truth? That maybe you've just bought into what the radical leftists claim (about Shapiro and possibly others)? "I mostly stopped watching the popular atheist/"sceptic" youtubers when they collectively decided to jump on the alt right bandwagon for some reason, since their content simply didn't appeal to me anymore." I don't know what this could possibly be referring to, except maybe the Rationality Rules controversy. But what would be "alt right" about referring to what science has to say on the topic of transgendered people in sports?
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@MrShanester117 So who is "they"? The only way I can see this working as almost a valid criticism of Shapiro, is if we're saying that the entire nation of Israel itself is on board with the killing of innocent people. But even then, what if he's against the killing of innocent people but for Israel prospering as a nation?
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@MrShanester117 No, I'm simply asking you what you meant, and there's only one place I can get that information.
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@Yungrexy It tells me something about logical fallacies and how easily they can be accepted and promoted. Now, would someone who hates x group of people be a fan of anyone who routinely criticized x group and/or their beliefs? Probably. A psycho's gotta come up with some justification for his evil act, after all. But in no way does that imply that criticizing a group of people with your words leads to other people attacking them with guns. And we should all be glad for that. I could wind up dead tomorrow and, by your logic, you'd be partly responsible so long as my killer said "I was inspired by watching Rex The Younger eviscerate him on YouTube!"
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@joeymac4302 Where and when did Shapiro say that all Democrats want Socialism? Also, late-term abortions are essentially infanticide. Just because we pretend some magical transformation takes place during birth doesn't make it so, and it is absolutely the Democratic party who's increasingly OK with late-term, partial-birth, and even post-birth "abortions".
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@joeymac4302 "It's not a magical transformation. It's a legal one. As in, they aren't considered "persons" by the government until they are born." So what? How does that have any impact at all on the moral implications of taking its life? "There are no post birth abortions." Technically no. But there was that governor talking about people sitting a baby on a table and just letting it die. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkTopSKo1xs "Also, We non-radicals believe a woman's right to abortion only goes through the first trimester, as laid out via Roe v. Wade." Which was still a pretty radical idea. Any line we might draw at which point it becomes a human life will be inconsistent with how we define it elsewhere. The only one that doesn't lead to contradictions is a line drawn at conception, when a unique genetic code is formed. "your assertion is false that the Democratic party is increasingly OK with partial birth abortions." In other words, you didn't know about the bill they were trying to pass not long ago. "Also, I don't document each time he says "democrats are pushing for socialism" on his daily show." That's not the claim you made earlier, which was that he said all Democrats want socialism... "his dehumanizing tweets. Which I note you didn't even bother trying to fight that one." I must've missed it, or I would've simply pointed out that, yet again, you're being conveniently vague about what Shapiro's allegedly done that's so bad.
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@JH-rt9vy Check the link. They're discussing a proposed law for letting a newborn baby just die on the table. And the contradictions are everywhere. "Yeah but the embryo doesn't have a heartbeat", "Yeah but there's no brain activity", "Yeah but they're not breathing on their own". We keep people alive via machines all the time despite these systems not working. But show me a bundle of random cells or tissue with its own unique genetic code apart from its "host", go ahead.
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@Yungrexy No no, you're the one who claimed it, you should be able to specify. But yes, I (and Shapiro himself) concede he lost that little debate for not being prepared.
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@Yungrexy You do realize that the very phrase "dog whistling" is an admission that you don't have actual evidence, just this invisible/inaudible "thing" in the ether you've built a conspiracy theory around. Even granting what you said he did there, where is the white supremacy? Where is the Nazism? Seems to me that even assuming you've represented his actions accurately and didn't take anything out of context, we can indict him for being offensive. He firmly believes that because the politicians have the power to actually change policy they're who we should keep our eyes on the most. And we can agree or disagree with him on that, but name-calling isn't going to carry your burden of proof. But again, I'd like to know what your response would be if it were flipped around on you. What if one of these Antifa nuts assaulted someone and then said they were inspired by your words here on YouTube? What if the right started playing this game you started and accused you of dog whistling for radical leftists? Would you honestly take the blame for what they did?
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@Yungrexy Well I'm obviously defending Shapiro from people claiming he's doing things he apparently isn't. If the best you have is "They're dog whistles, that's why we can't hear them!" then it's just as I said before: you have no case.
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@joeymac4302 I didn't generalize all Democrats, you should read what I said more carefully. But thank you for the- what, nine-year old Tweet from Shapiro in which he fucks up. Still doesn't transfer the blame from a violent shooter to a person doing the opposite. If these people were really following Shapiro, they'd have the guts to get on a stage and debate people on these topics; they wouldn't try to kill anyone.
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