Comments by "Vic 2.0" (@Vic2point0) on "Joe Rogan Responds to Bernie Sanders Endorsement Controversy" video.

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  15.  @jaccbolton  Again, that sort of argument could be used to justify killing at any age. Woman doesn't want or can't raise a child. There are supposedly too many orphans for the number of people wanting to adopt already (even though that's largely because the government has made it so insanely expensive to adopt), so why shouldn't the woman be allowed to just kill the child? That's why I asked you where you draw the line? Because to me, killing an innocent human being is wrong, even if you think it will help the world in some way. "You act concerned but when was the last time you cried over somebody's miscarriage?" False implication. I didn't cry when Kobe and his daughter died, either. Doesn't mean they weren't human beings. Doesn't mean I don't care, just because I don't cry at every death 🙄 "But you have no problem with grown people, who others will miss and mourn, being given the death sentence because he isn't "innocent"." Actually, I'm against the death penalty. But yeah, I'm definitely less sympathetic when a criminal dies than when a literally innocent human being (like a fetus or a baby) is killed. "Well he was an innocent little fetus at some point." Ok? And so was Hitler, what's your point? "So you basically just want to wait until they are old enough to hate" No, I don't believe in hating people. "and people actually grow attached to them before its ok to kill them." I don't consider whether or not someone else has grown attached to a person a factor in deciding whether or not they should be killed. What a horrifying concept. "It's not a black and white discussion and just because you think it is right or wrong doesn't make it either." So again, I ask you: Is it wrong to kill an innocent human being?
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  16.  @jaccbolton  I care a great deal, which is why I'm standing up for those lives in arguments such as this. "I don't think it is right to kill anybody. Doesn't mean that if put in a terrible situation i would or would not kill an innocent or guilty person." But "terrible situation" is awfully vague. It's not like I'm asking "If someone put a gun to your head and made you choose between killing one infant vs. killing another (and if you said neither, they'll kill both), what would you choose?" This is more like, you created a human being. Now you don't think you'd be able to provide for and raise that human being. Is that justification to kill him/her? "And your examples have no point." Sure they do. The point is that just because you don't cry at every death you hear about, it doesn't mean you don't care. And it certainly doesn't imply that you don't think they were human beings. "Nobody has been inspired by the aborted fetus because its life has not started yet " So again, that argument could be used to justify killing any newborn, most babies, most toddlers, and even a handful of kids beyond that age. I do not consider someone's life less valuable because "they haven't inspired anyone". If they are an innocent human being, I think they should be spared. Now, again I will ask you, Where is the line drawn? Surely you don't think a woman should be able to just kill her two-year old child. You probably don't think that they should be killed, say, an hour after birth. But where do you admit that it's a human being whose life should be protected?
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