Comments by "worfoz" (@worfoz) on "Rise and decline of science in Islam" video.
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@a4h426 what is our purpose?, why are we here? These are questions that can’t be answered by just staring at numbers and data
Again, we CAN use numbers and data to CHECK the "perfect" answers of religions. Like this most amazing explanation of our existence: this so-called Creation myth that suggests that we are created for a reason, by some deity, and that our life is a test.
Roman Catholicism stated that their answers are perfect because they are from their bible, so... accept it.
And it goes like this:
in 4004 BC God created heavens and earth (Science: wrong, earth is much older, and there are no seven heavens), God created humans (Science: wrong, we are evolved like all living beings) and gave us this earth, right in the center of the universe. Science: no, earth is not flat either.
So here we are, being tested by god almighty, in an universe especially created for testing us, Rome told us.
And we rejected all of this great answer, with data, and facts.
Some people like Giordano Bruno were burned but after a while the Church accepted the scientific criticism, so all well that ends well.
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@a4h426 worfoz are you seriously going to give me a mathematical explanation for why I am here and what my existence means?
Yes, |I will
the answer is: there is no answer
like alla is not green
you are here, that is a fact, you gave your life meaning and purpose, so there IS a meaning, and you believe there is a purpose.
but no religion, mo prophet, not even a god can tell ME what the meaning and purpose of MY life is
there is only ONE PERSON who can do that, and that person is ME
so, since we recently hit 7.8 billion, we KNOW there are over 7.8 BILLION human reasons and purposes, TODAY
and about this man made quran, to write in Arab, you have to have Arab writing. Quran is the first attempt to write anything in that language
so we still wonder what these arabs tried to write down
we know other gospels, so we understand what your quran talks about
but we have no other arab literature to fully understand this writing
so the meaning of many surahs is unknown
and only to devoted muhamedans, nothing is changed because in islam that can't be true
but we question that, because we don't see a shred of evidence for that claim
we see many oil dollar paid muhamedan scholars making all sorts of claims, one even more bizarre than the next
but we have a few sane scientists studying books like your quran
so we know where most of the quran is copied from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gospels
and why it talks about Isa and not muhamed
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@a4h426 It's the best answer, far better than arrogant religions claiming they have The Answer and The Truth
and it is very scientific, because t's based on FACTS
I decided what the meaning of MY life is
but I can't say anything about the meaning of YOUR life, except that that is YOUR decision to make
so the quran says: there is no compulsion in religion
religions are not able to say and enforce whatever they claim the meaning of MY life is
to many questions there IS no answer but "the question does not make sense".
what color is alla, why do I live, how many centimetres is one degree Celsius
And if you hit your toe at a table, you can ask the table why it did it and that would be a stupid question
So, the answer science and math can give you may not please you
IF you ask for one reason for all life, you will never get a good answer
only if you accept the facts, then you'll have to accept there is not one answer
nothing arbitrary about that, science is very able to debunk the wrong answers of religions
true science is not about finding the truth, but about rejecting falsehood and lies
science is not as pretentious as religions are
but that's why scientific answers are so much better
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@a4h426 it can only answer my question if I change it.
yes, as you can not answer my question about alla
is she green or blue?
and how many meters is that color?
In many ways, science IS far superior to beliefs, because science generates knowledge
religions do not
so while no religion is able to tell me anything about the purpose of my life, I myself find this purpose by living my life
and no, I seriously know there is hardly any literature in arab before they tried to write a quran
so you are serious about quran being preserved?
do you think it is a book made by god?
because if it "occurs to you" that I am "ignorant" I spot a muhamedan defending the prefect islam
with insults and anger
fact is that we do not know of any arab written literature predating the quran
that's why Wiki says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_literature
"The Qur'an, the main holy book of Islam, had a significant influence on the Arab language, and marked the beginning of Islamic literature. "
But if you know written arabic literature predating the quran please enlighten me
I am not shitting you
but to my knowledge, Arabs didn't have writing until somewhere in then 8th century
many muhamedans claim the quran or recitation is preserved orally, so I wonder why my comment upsets you so much
Jews had written literature, Persians, Romans, Greek, but the Arabs had an oral culture, they were not People of the Books.
Sorry to see that you muhamedans always get furious when we question your beliefs
But every time I talk to a muhamedan they end the discussion with statements like this one:
"It is so woefully ignorant that I can only conclude you are here simply to incite a reaction from every Muslim you find"
So I can only conclude that you lost your mind and this discussion
and I think it's very sad that you suddenly talk like this.
but then again, this is how we know you
and why we dislike all you muhamed worshipers
there is no way to have a normal conversation because you HAVE to belittle and lie
that is what islam teaches you
"If the people of this religion are asked about the proof for the soundness of their religion, they flare up, get angry and spill the blood of whoever confronts them with this question. They forbid rational speculation, and strive to kill their adversaries. This is why truth became thoroughly silenced and concealed."
—Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi , (854–925 CE), Persian polymath, physician, alchemist, philosopher, and important figure in the history of medicine.
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