Comments by "" (@PappaTom-ub3ht) on "More Perfect Union" channel.

Training outside = Free Eating less = actually saving money
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Imagine if they thought 1 billion was enough. Then they would not have needed to invent this drug at all...
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@gmonkman "People who are morbidly obese have physical barriers to any exercise." Sure. but what they don't have a physical barrier to is to eat less. That is not only free, but also saves you money. And happens to be the very thing the drug help you do.
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Not even price gouging. One can get the same effect as the drug by 30 min of exercise a day. And that is free.
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@AnirbanDuttaasn Rather than what exactly? Not sure what you are asking here. But any business, hospital included should be answerable to its owners and customers. When it is not, bad healthcare is the result.
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"they do not tell you the side affects. " Ok, but now she knows... She can just stop if she feels it is not worth it anymore.
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But we should not expect anyone to make these kinds of drugs which help people.
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@reddragonflyxx657 "The temporary monopoly is a patent thing, which is more capitalist than socialist" you got that exactly opoposite. The government laying out rules for who can produce what is clearly socialism.
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"medicare was not legally allowed to (negotiate better prices)" So problem is clearly not the drug company but silly americans laws preventing free trade.
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If the US void the patent of this drug. Denmark, and the rest of EU, should do the same to any american drugs.
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@gmonkman "I'm trying to get over that it is a bit more complicated than "we shouldn't treat with semaglutide coz eat less exercise more"." I agree. and if they find it to be worth it they should. the prices are probably set to how much americans will pay for it. For now it is 1k. But probably as earlier it was just for some diabetics, now the drug has a broader market and therefore costs society more in general.
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""socialism" healthcare" is the problem... Exactly because it is a socialist healthcare system in USA with medicaid the price is so high. In a freer market heatlhcare system the price would have to get close to Danish or British levels.
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@UrsulaMajor "that is literally the opposite of true." really? How exactly is healthcare funded by the government capitalist and not socialism? I would rather have the best doctor. As for fridges, i would like the most profitbale.
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@AnirbanDuttaasn "Your argument is the current system (of hospitals and insurance etc) maximizing profit and answering to VCs/shareholders should work. " No. i did not mention insurance companies at all. Besides, France, a european country which have often been claimed as having the very best healthcare system in the world have private hospitals in addition to public ones. "And yet you are telling me, without trying, that system wont work in US." I never told you that. but you grossly misunderstand the system in Europe anyways. USA spends more public money on healtchare than any european country does.
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And coming from the guy who sits on the wallet...
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"The pen makes you take a full dose" no it does not. You can select exactly how much to take with the pen.
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Greed from by whom?
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Without it you wouldn't have this medicine
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Government regulation in the US is somehow capitalism? Watch the video again. In a more free and capitalistic country like Denmark the drug is cheaper than in USA
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Due to government regulation in the US. If there was not laws against it, any american could fly over to UK and just buy all the stocks from the pharmacies at double the price and fly back to USA and double the price again for a profit. And still reducing the cost for americans.
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@andrewreynolds912 You do realise that denmark is more capitalistic than USA right? It is government regulation in the US that makes these drugs so expensive.
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@andrewreynolds912 "heck one can argue that denmark is a more pure form of a capitalist system than America is" I agree. "we are not a social democracy" Ok? so what?
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@andrewreynolds912 Your point is wrong. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom USA is nr. 25. Denmark is 9
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@cali7077 How is that relevant?
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Because it is not gouging. it is offering a new product for a high price. it is like saying that Ducatti is price gouging.
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@mrvwbug4423 Then why don't american companies just go to UK and buy up the drugs from the pharmacies there?
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@trashcanthertrdman8459 Lol How would you force someone to do this?
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@trashcanthertrdman8459 That would not incentivize anybody to develop new drugs though.
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snarkasmgrant2534 "They keep changing something so it never qualifies for the generic production." the old product can still be generically produced though
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Or just stop eating so much luxury food
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@markpashia7067 That is not true. The development cost was paid long before the drug reached american markets
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@reddragonflyxx657 "patent system was inherently capitalist" it is not though. patents is a government regulation on the means of production. Thus the opposite of capitalism.
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@Progan666 No they are not. Paying extra for drugs in the USA does not lower the price in Norway.
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@reddragonflyxx657 " If it isn't, why are IP rights different?" Because IPs are just barriers on how to use the tools you already own. Ip-law regulate what you can make with your own tools. That is just silly. It is a clear violation of my property right. Having Disney, through the government, be able to prevent me from drawing what i want with my pen and paper for then to sell clearly reduces what i can use my own stuff for. I do see your point though, and i was a bit to white and black in the distinctions. My main point is that government preventing private businesses from using their factories to produce certain medicines that they are able to produce tend more towards socialism than towards capitalism.
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@bosstowndynamics5488 Insulin was not made in USA so bad example. Beside. Insulin has been a generic drug for almost 100 years now.
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Running is free
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