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Comments by "" (@danieleyre8913) on "Explained: Auckland’s next multi-billion-dollar rail project | Stuff.co.nz" video.

Nice to see a positive comment. Auckland must be the most negative city on earth. Most of the comments I see here are just whinging about nothing that can be done about.
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@chrismckellar9350 I agree. NZ a short-term thinking, cheapskate, governed nation. Especially national party governments. The irony is that it usually ends up costing the nation more eventually.
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@chrismckellar9350 Yes that is the latest example. But there have been plenty before. The INCIS police computer database? The HMNZS Charles Upham? Procuring DC-10’s instead of 747’s for Air New Zealand? Making the Auckland harbour bridge only 4 lanes? The FIAT railcar procurement of the 1950s? All from the same party in power, every time…
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Hear hear. I’m from Wellington and I can’t believe the negativity in the comments section here. More people are complaining that 1) It wasn’t already built years ago or 2) They’re not building a line to the north shore or Airport (which would be dumb IMO) or whatever, than celebrating the positive news. How about it thinking about the future and working toward positive outcomes?
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@tjfarias102 Well compared to cities in North America and Australia; Auckland traffic is nothing.
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@Emmanuel4334 Hopefully it will be quicker to train in from Mt Roskill to the Auckland CBD than to take a bus down Dominion road, freeing up some the congestion…
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@ No the MoT is sticking by the conclusions of the 2005 report. Former transport minister Michael wood wasted a lot of money re-visiting the options. But he had to resign and his successor just went back to the old policy (which is the logical best option). National haven’t cancelled anything because nothing has got off of the ground. They just have yet to commit to anything.
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@tjfarias102 Clearly you haven’t travelled…
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@ Melbourne is a bigger city and the state of Victoria has historically invested a lot in public transport. Geelong has a bigger population than Auckland’s north shore and has flat topography between it and Melbourne. The NZ government in the 1950’s (Holland/Holyoake government) made a massive boo-boo on the Auckland harbour bridge in only making it 4 lanes, underestimating the property development that was to come. Building a harbour crossing is difficult and expensive and New Zealand just isn’t a wealthy nation. However; look at how long it takes to get to the Sydney CBD from (say) Merrylands, or to the Brisbane CBD from Logan, and then get back to me.
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@michaelfulcher3919 Railways have owned the route for decades already.
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@WayToManyAssassins Well Labour was only in power for the 6 years, 12 years apart, between 1949 and 1984. Not much that they could do from the opposition benches.
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@BigBlueMan118 This will make a lot of other improvements possible and more convenient. It is the logical next upgrade for Auckland’s railway network.
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@ “Third world” is actually an obsolete term from the Cold War, but still used by Americans and other poorly educated. But what you mean is a developing nation. Developing nations have large proportions of the population who do not have access to plumbing, electricity, secondary education, paved roads, etc. You clearly have no concept of what those nations are like. Although your posting history and complete simpleton reactionary ideas about the current temporary situation with Auckland’s public transport makes me think you were NZ’s loss and the UK’s gain.
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@4WDNorth Not sure what Australia has to do with anything. But NZ’s railways are more behind than Australia’s are.
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@Aggieappa It’s planned to one day double-track, grade separate, and extend the Onehunga branch into Mangere. When that happens: The two stations on the branch will be replaced by one 9-car platform, that will interchange with this station’s platform.
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@puffinjuice Busway better than nothing. And it can be converted to some form of light rail in the future.
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@ Nope the harbour crossing study done in 2005, which is still the MoT’s plans, stated the next harbour crossing will be two tunnels with a diameter large enough for 3 lanes of traffic and a light rail corridor (beneath). The northern busway was designed to be converted to a light rail or light metro conveniently:
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@ Auckland is an easy city to get around. Take a look at most cities in North America, or even Australian cities bar Melbourne and Perth, and then get back to me.
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@ Oh Auckland sucks in many aspects. Mostly it is a big dull suburb full with dull people living in crummy houses. It’s a great place if you grew up on a farm or if you’re wealthy. But it’s not difficult to get around by automobile, and the public transport system has gradually improved and is ever improving.
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@ataxpayer723 I said that Perth is among the exceptions. Perth has an economy much larger than Auckland’s due to revenues from the mining industry. You may as well compare Auckland to Singapore.
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@ataxpayer723 Perth has more than half of Auckland’s GDP per capita added on again. Perth is the capital of a state that has minerals galore to be mined.
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@Mexzot The northern busway was designed to one day be upgraded to some form of light rail. And the long term plan has been to convert it to a light metro that interchanges at Aotea for 15 years.
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@NZTotem That’s not true. The Brisbane railway airport link is still seen as a white elephant that loses money.
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@KarlStephen-l4u The way things are going he’ll be fighting for the red team in the 2025 snap election…
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It’s only Onehunga. And some of this crossings will be grade separated.
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@UsmanMughal-lm8pp You do understand that that is just temporary, right?
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Onehunga built up? No offence, but it sounds like you haven’t been out in the world much…
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This isn’t light rail. It’s extending the mainline.
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It’s the nest step in any further improvements to the network.
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Can you name a single small country that railways have bankrupted then?
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@gerardaygun2115 What are you talking about? France has one of the biggest most dynamic economies on earth, and is the largest nation in Europe.
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@Staticcollective2019 And what could have the government done better? After all; the planning for it, which is where most errors in civil engineering projects are made, was all done by the government that was in power between 2008-17.
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@ And… …have you got any examples of this allegation?
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@Staticcollective2019 Yup just some vague allegations; and no actual concrete examples. You’re just blowing smoke.
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@ Under the assumption that what’s reported in the media is ever entirely trustworthy: So it must be very easy for you to search and find and state here then. So what’s stopping you? C’mon let’s see an actual concrete example.
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@tjfarias102 Fun fact: That is a complete load of fiction fabricated by some journalist from the evening post. The US marine corps had a war to win, they didn’t have time to build roads that 1940s automobiles couldn’t handle.
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No. The national will pay for it. Because it is national infrastructure, for Kiwirail.
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Hahaha what?! Nobody is going to be cycling let alone walking up those long steep inclines on the Auckland harbour bridge! That bridge is automobiles only. They will have to take off the clip-on’s at some stage. And then properly repair the damaged struts, and then revert it to a 4 lane bridge just for trucks and Northcote traffic. A tunnel under the harbour will replace the clipper ons and will also carry space for a light metro to convert the northern busway into.
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@TOTN17 plans to? Only 8 years away now. They previously planned to have one by now.
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@ Wrong. It would now be very difficult and expensive. Because of the kirkbride road overpass of SH 20A. The plans have been changed to a future shuttle spur for the airport, and the future loop to more or less follow SH 20
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@antontsau Listen to me: Vienna’s flughafen gets about 30 million passengers a year. By your own admission; its dedicated train services aren’t well patronised. Munich’s flughafen gets about 40 million passengers a year! Brisbane with 23 million passengers a year in its airport loses money big time on its railway service. Auckland international airport only gets about 18 million passengers a year. It’s not a very big and busy and important airport. A dedicated train service for Auckland airport cannot be justified at this stage. Aside from Auckland airport’s low passenger numbers; Auckland’s public transport system is not that well developed nor well patronised. And nowhere near the levels of integration would allow the sort of connections that would make an airport train attractive to customers. There’s already a shuttle bus between the airport and Puhinui station that is criminally underused, and quick & cheap. Maybe in the future, when Auckland has a more developed and integrated system, and there could be shuttles to Hamilton and maybe even Tauranga or Rotorua possible: It could be justified. But in the meantime: The only reason I can see why you and your ilk are so adamant in your demands for one is just another case of an insecure wanting to keep up with the Joneses.
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@mjcats2011 Yeah I actually knew that there’s no real plans for a railway connection to Tullamarine. The media and politicians in Victoria have been raising it for decades but of course there’s nothing in the cards. Melbourne still has its grade separation and new tunnel and suburban loop projects to worry about.
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@mjcats2011 The fact is that those projects are going to be trying up rail construction and funding across Melbourne for at least a decade. Well except the metro tunnel will be finished by later this year. But there’s no guarantee whatsoever that there will be a rail connection to Tullamarine in the foreseeable future.
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@SD78 And when would that be? Name one time this shuttle has been stuck in traffic.
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@ Did you commute in via Puhinui road and Tom Pearce drive?
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@mcgruff3309 Railway already own a lot of that land.
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@ What are you taking about? You are an NRL fan gambling addict who has never been beyond Brisbane. And IKEA sucks. Low quality cheap tat.
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@WinahhTaylahh Hahaha me cope over what? Oh no don’t tell me I don’t have an IKEA to buy cheap low quality crap that should be chucked away after a few years near me! Whatever will I do?
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@WinahhTaylahh You need to cope every weekend when you’ve gambled more of your money away. Usually over the most rink-a-dink worst excuse for a professional sport in the world Rugby league.
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@BigBlueMan118 Well it will allow other big improvements that seem impressive.
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@dave24-73 I don’t know where you lived in the UK or Australia. But the London system is always having lines out of action. Sometimes entire lines are out for just a weekend, other times for months. Luckily they have such an integrated system that buses and other lines can satisfactorily cover for the temporary closures. As for Sydney; all the time lines are out of action in weekends and sometimes longer due to maintenance. And their train system even when fully functioning has dreadful punctuality and reliability, the timetable is abandoned every night by 8PM. And most US cities have PT even worse than Auckland’s, even cities much bigger like Atlanta or Denver. And don’t forget Wellington has a PT system, and it doesn’t suffer the big problems that Auckland’s is currently suffering, so don’t tar the whole country. Auckland’s problems are only temporary, and they have to fix them some time. Don’t they? As for what a third world country is: Try visiting one some day and then go back to NZ…
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@dave24-73 Ah 1952 was the beginning of… …*drumroll*… …the Cold War. Aw yeah. Len Brown is a right-wing reactionary, and he has a sympathetic right wing government in power to give him brownie points. Auckland Transport leave a lot to be desired, but as this Chris guy keeps telling you; they have nothing to do with Kiwirail’s network upgrades that are currently causing disruptions. Honestly; I’ve known some limited poms in my time. But you’re a bit slow even by their standards.
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@chrismckellar9350 I agree that National are the biggest culprits. But Labour share blame too. Don’t forget that the 1999-2008 government did & started the greatest period of motorway construction.
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Are you a bit simple? They’re preparing for what next when the CRL is finished.
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@wlp7899 That depends upon where in Australian and which suburbs.
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@WinahhTaylahh Nope Australian railways are generally bad too. Almost no railways in Tasmania, and no passenger trains of any description. No local railways for Wollongong, Geelong, nor the Sunshine coast. And the local railways for Newcastle and the hunter valley are just laughable. The light railways in Canberra and the Gold Coast still don’t serve most of the cities. And there are still large areas of the state capitals not served by rail.
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The debacle with the ferries isn’t a sacrifice to get this built.
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@sheepstreet Ah no.
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@Staticcollective2019 You are very confused. None of the Waikato expressway was ever cancelled. And the thing only got off of the ground thanks to the labour government of 1999-2008.
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@ That’s complete BS. The extensions beyond Cambridge were evaluated in 2020, during the last government. They now await further funding. Prior to that evaluation; there were no plans for any extension. So if anything; the last Labour government made them possible. You are either extremely badly informed, or you are very dishonest.
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@ So why can’t I find a single document even suggesting it from prior to 2020? You’ve moved from claiming an entire cancellation to a “new” evaluation. You can’t keep it consistent. And your new claim sounds like a BS attempt to salvage something. I mysteriously can’t find any news stories about more accidents from any road in the South Waikato/Waipa region. Hmm I wonder why?
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@ So why do you have such struggles with actually giving me any concrete examples?
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@wekiwisdofly85 why should this be underground?!
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@wekiwisdofly85 Because it would cost many magnitudes more to construct. And with the freight movements; it would be more expensive to run and keep ventilated.
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@wekiwisdofly85 Hahahaha at you thinking that spending money unnecessarily is a good idea…
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@wekiwisdofly85 It doesn’t need to be underground, the way forward is just building it.
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@ And why is that? Having the thing built above found will still deliver the same outcome.
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@ They can get that by just grade separating it into cut trenches and raised culverts/viaducts. For much less money. They only resort to expensive tunnelling when it’s the cheapest option due to either 1) too much earth on top to excavate (like a mountain) or 2) Too much expensive real estate to demolish 3) Bridge would need to span too long a distance. In any case; Onehunga is not an especially busy suburb with heavy traffic.
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@ataxpayer723 I agree. I use the bus to Puhinui, and then the trains, every time I visit Auckland from Wellington. And it’s always quick and convenient, and not pricey, and easy to use, and criminally underused. The airport buses in Wellington & Christchurch get more patronage despite getting more caught in traffic. Aucklanders don’t know what they already have.
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People taking business trips. Tourists.
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@ataxpayer723 So where does the other 95% go?
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@was-a-very-fat-fish The railways have owned the land for decades, there’s no other options. They’re just those low quality timber weatherboard houses, they can be replaced and probably will be (with terraced housing or blocks of flats).
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@was-a-very-fat-fish No. They need it to be mainline and be used by freight movements. And they can’t make a move on any major works on the existing corridor, such as lengthening platforms for 9 cars, or widening for another line, until this is done first. It’s the next piece in the puzzle. Light rail down Dominion road is a garbage idea pushed by dubious charlatans and it’s been buried forever.
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@was-a-very-fat-fish They are going to build it were it was always intended to go.
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So do you think New Zealand should do nothing instead or something?
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@WinahhTaylahh That’s pretty funny coming from an NRL fan.
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What do you mean by “can’t finish”?
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