Comments by "VoidX" (@aus-li) on "Top 10 Anime for Horror Fans" video.
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Yea, it's more about the inhuman atrocities that make you think: How evil can you possibly be?
Hostel isn't scary, more of an awesome gore movie, I'd say. I'd take that kind of "special effects" (props and makeup) than shitty CGI. I think you're contradicting yourself, dude, because the movies you mentioned: The Thing, Halloween, and Alien all have gore, but they include the horror atmospheric aspects into it, which includes the music, suspense, and emotional response when someone dies from the monster/alien. By today standards, "horror" isn't about monsters, now it's just ghost/specters that have no real impact on anything....
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Well, it sounded like you didn't like gore, lol, it's really not that bad, the human body is the most intriguing when the interior is exposed. I think the opposite, the gore adds to the realism, without it, they wouldn't be the same.
"They don't want smart horror like Alien they want dumb horror like Hostel and Serbian Film."
No, they want something like Paranormal activity or The conjuring, look at all the generic shitty horror movies these days...they're all ghost movies; Eli Roth is one of the few horror/gore enthusiast of the 21st century, and the same goes for Quentin Tarantino, with his gore/feet fetish, lol
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+Spazlan Saw doesn't count, they can't be taken seriously. Eli Roth has Hostel and The Green Inferno that are decent gore movies with a plot.
"Tarantino on the other hand has the right balance of gore in his movies and adapts the gore according to the story."
Lol no he doesn't. There's excessive gore in the Kill Bill movies, especially in the first movie with the "samurai fights".
"A story, well written characters and good character development. Unlike most ghost horrors The Conjuring takes its time to introduce us and get acquainted with the characters."
Yes, that's one of the best paranormal films in recent years, but most of them are garbage...my point still stands.
"I have also seen many movies about human atrocities that make me think how evil can people possible be without relying on gore to get it's point across. The Pianist, Tyrannosaur and This Is England just to name a few."
My bad, I didn't see this part of your comment. Those aren't the same compared to Serbian Film, 120 days of Sodom, or even the french movie Irreversible with the "rape scene". These movies are controversial for a reason: They show inhuman acts that are supposed to be revolting in every way to make you feel sick. The movies you mentioned don't go that far, but these movies are "underground" to show you how dark humanity can be.
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+Spazlan It's not the right "balance", it's just too ridiculous to taken seriously, more like a parody of a "sword fight" scene. The exaggeration of light red blood and the shitty sword fighting is beyond pathetic. Honestly, it's comparable to the original Matrix and how cheesy it was with the fight scenes.
"Neither could the Hostel movies or The Green Inferno, the plot in those movies is little to non at all. Also if you realized I said every Saw movie after the first one is shit."
The plot in those movies were realistic, and Green Inferno was a sequel to Cannibal Holocaust, it had a ton of better aspects; The animal cruelty in Cannibal Holocaust is a disgrace, that already puts down way more than Green Inferno. Sure, it had a ton of troupes, stereotypical white people, and the dialogue was utter garbage, but imo, it's better. So, fuck the reviewers and critics at Rotten Tomato, like they know anything about movies.
The original saw was decent, but the acting was garbage, they weren't even legit actors. The director is trash, along with his repetitive shitty concept that never ends.
"You don't need to actually see things to make you feel sick, just hearing about them can be worse."
Sure, sometimes words have more impact than actions, but seeing and hearing the screams of complete despair is a different than hearing about the situation.
"I have a feeling you are one of these people that just like excessive gore, there is nothing wrong with that, it's just I have higher standards when watching movies."
Nah, dude, substance is way more important than pure gore, I'm just implying that they're not that bad, and give you realistic scenarios that happen (or could) in real life. I only read/watch the best of the best, I would never put those movies in my standards of my favorite movies.
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+Spazlan James Wan was the executive producer for all the Saw movies, and he's writing the new movie: Saw: Legacy. He also wrote Saw 3, so it's not the studios fault if he keeps writing the movies. Money (and idiotic people) is what keep these movies going, same with Furious 7, another repetitive movie franchise...which he also directed. The actors from Saw are not "respectable actors", Danny Glover is only known for Lethal Weapon and The color Purple, and most of his other movies are shit, more like a B rated actor. Cary Elwes has The Princess Bride that's a classic kids movie from the 80's, that's it. Micheal Emerson is only known for Lost, and his other shitty show appearances. Dude, you really have low standards when it comes to "respectable actors".
"That's exactly my point, and the point I was making about Tarantino adapting his gore to the story and situation of the movie."
That has nothing to do with how bad the fight scene was, the use of gore was wasted, looking like a low budget fight scene that's not aging well.
"Not all the time, more often the case is less is more. Alien proves this, especially with Lambert found hanging in the chains, all we see is her bloody foot and the expression on Ripley's face says it all."
Most of the time it works, showing the scene is supposed to make you shocked by the outcome. For example, the Xenomorph scene is a perfect use of gore.
Dude, you didn't even watch Serbian Film, so you can't really judge it. Tbh, the movies is shit, but it does have a realistic interpretation of how there's some sick porn in the world. Hostel and Green Inferno do have a plot, it's not like Caligula, where most of the movie is an erotic porn. These movies do have some meaningful messages: don't trust anyone while traveling...is the moral of the "story".
"There is portraying the evils of men and then there is the downright sick."
"The evils of men"....more like the "evils of humanity", as Iv'e said, history proves it.
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+Spazlan "Agreed, but he has only directed one entry in the Fast and Furious series to my knowledge."
Yes, but the movie and the franchise are still bad, lol
"I should have worded that better, no they are not the best actors but they are not the worst either, they were better than the actors in either Hostel and The Green Inferno. My standards are quite high when it comes to respectable actors."
Yea, for sure.
"That scene was meant to look bad, as it was a tribute to 1970's exploitation movies."
I know, but I think the first part, the choreographed fight scenes were much better than the Samurai scene...it looked more "real", anyway.
Lol, I know tons of people who have seen the movie, you shouldn't be calling them "sick" or "twisted", people are curious to see the brutal scenes, it's human nature.
"When I said the evils of men I meant humanity as a whole and yes history proves it, but these stories need to be told in a respectable way and not just turn them into a gore fest."
I think you meant "evils of man", which means "mankind". The term "respectable" is something not all movies have to abide by....
"Your fascination of gore worries me. It sounds like you focus on it too much above everything else because that's all you seem to be interested in. That and how realistic it looks."
Dude, you're overreacting, Iv'e seen worse, and so have many people when they explore the deep web. Also, I disagree, I think realism plays a huge part when you're using facts or logic in your story; I don't think you've read any good Seinen manga, based on your strong opinion, lol
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