Comments by "David Wong" (@davidwong5197) on "Exclusive: Coronavirus outbreak may have started in September, say British scientists" video.

  1.  @zilun  I did . Did you? here it is. https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/04/07/2004999117 Please show me where it said virus originated from Wuhan
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  2.  Jimmy Wijaya  You cannot be more wrong. China has been providing samples to the university. How do you think Cambridge do the genome mapping? On the other hand US still hasn't provide sample on the vaping pneumonia. It is really simple, if they had it they would have antibody in the sample. Would US allow China to investigate their CDC labs? BTW, Germans got their sample. Or how did they develop vaccine and test kits? IMO, Germany and China are probably working together. In the beginning Germany sent them supply and now China is sending EU supply.
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  3.  @user-ts8hm7pr8o  Did you even watch the video? It has ruled out Virus started in Wuhan. The question is is Type A found in USA the original virus. There is also reports by Stanford, the virus had been in the US for awhile and we just don't know it. 45,000 to 80,000 might have been infected in Santa Clara County. Please stick with the facts and science.
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  4.  @zilun  Dude, you are normally quit objective. But this paper got sample and data from China. Try to read the paper first. The paper basically eliminated the possibility of the virus originated from Wuhan. Until we have more data (especially pre-December sample). It is gonna be difficult. The paper also implied possibility the virus originated from US.
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  5.  Jimmy Wijaya  Investigation is done by scientist and not political hack. US had an out break of pneumonia in 2019. The CT scan showed lung damages similar to COVID. US blamed this on vaping and still hasn't provide a sample to China for study. Do you know of any vaping induced pneumonia outside US? I can't find any.
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  6.  @dona14322  Try to read the Cambridge paper before you speak mis- information. They get the sample and data from China that's how they are able to map the genome.
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  7. This is so typical of a bias press. They did not tell the whole story. While they quoted Forster, they did not disclose the entire story. Forster (Cambridge ) study showed there were 3 major strain of the virus. Type A was the original and it's found in US/Australia, Type B mutated from Type A is in E. Asia and type C (mutated from B) is in Europe. New data also shown person 0 in US is not the guy in Washington. The autopsy of two people died in Santa Clara was 3 weeks earlier and they were found to be infected with COVID. They did not go to China or were in contact with anyone that did. Stanford study showed 45,000 to 85,000 people might have been infected in Santa Clara County. Another study showed 1/5 of the New Yorkers might have been infected. The scientists estimated this will bring the mortality rate down to 0.5%. But these study did not show the number of death that was misdiagnosed as flu that could be COVID. The only conclusion all these studies showed is COVID did not originated from Wuhan.
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  8.  @zilun  Actually more A in Southern China than Wuhan. A in Wuhan are also mutated. Actually they are all mutated.
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  9.  @zilun  Not in the video. That's what he is saying.
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  10.  @aliikane  That is a fake news site. The original report was reported by Caixing Global and cited by WSJ and Axios as coverup source Why do they need to. However, the same report also claimed China covered it up until 1/11. That has been debunked by Washington Post since China informed US on Jan 3. This is what we know; Germany has sample to develop the test kit, Cambridge and Yale both have sample. The genome data are now in a data base in the Genetic Network. Pompeo does not need sample. He can just check out the database. Do you think he does not know that? There are over 1000 sample data. It is all a show to shift the blame. Remember there are 12 US scientists from the CDC that works in WHO. And yet they still blame WHO. It is all a distraction for their incompetency. Do you wonder why CDC refused to blame WHO? On the other hand US still hasn't provided the sample requested by China on the vaping pneumonia. What do they have to hide? Why do China need to destroy sample when there are so many available worldwide?
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  11.  @aliikane  Caixing Global is a Chinese Newspaper cited by WSJ and Axios. I am providing that information to be fair and balance. Caixing Global's story has been debunked by Washington Post. Epoch Times is a fake news site as well. Try sourcing information from a credible source. You can also watch Nathan Rich. He is not a source but he cited many sources and you can check out those source. Peter Forster's paper cited A is in USA and Australia and there are two sub- clusters in Guangdong. So based on his study you can eliminate Wuhan as the origin. So all the wet market and bio-lab theory are now no longer valid. Type B mutated into type C when it migrated to Europe. and it can'r reversed back to type A when it migrated to US. That left open two possibilities. The virus either originated from Southern China or the US. With no further evidence, you cannot conclude the virus originated from either. However, after this paper was published there were more paper published by Stanford and Northeastern University. Stanford found there could be 45,000 to 85,000 in Santa Clara County that were infected through antibody test. Santa Clara County has only a little over 1,000 confirmed cases. Northeastern similarly found 1/5 of New Yorkers were infected. This mean the virus (type A) could have been here for a long time and we overlooked it. Separately, a woman died of a heart attack on Feb 6 that also complained of flu like symptom was found infected with COVID. She had not been to China or in contact with anyone that went to China. This case is important because she died three weeks ahead of the supposed patient 0 in Washington. So, yes it is possible that the virus can originate in US. But without further evidence we would not know for sure. We need to get tissue sample of patients that died as flu victim and samples from the vaping pneumonia to be sure. I tried to stay informed and objective. Please fact check my facts.
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  12. No we did not. We have now found earlier cases that were mis-diagnosed.
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  13.  @zilun  Do you really know that? The bat was identified by Chinese scientist and is only 96% match. 96% match is not a match in DNA. There are 5 categories of corona virus. China only has one and US has five. How do you know there is no match in US? The virus is bat are harmless. We already know there is no direct link. There has to be a host in between. Your statement cannot be more wrong.
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  14.  @zilun  Do you have proof nobody bring it into China? It is possible that the virus came from US and Australia. We won't know until there is more data. The only answer that is coorect right now is "there is no clear evidence"
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  15.  @xl5009  When did he tell the story? Dec 30. When did China announce the outbreak? Dec31. Doesn't look like they are trying to keep this thing quiet to me.
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  16.  @butterfly1401  Quit posting that. Thta is opinion and not evidence
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  17. Right now every 2 to 3 years we have a new virus. 2009 H1N1 2012 MERS 2014 EBOLA 2016 ZIKA 2019 COVID19
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  18. I don't get it. Why is Bill giving away $1.5B if he doesn't care?
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  19.  @aliikane  Read the paper. China has provided sample to Cambridge. https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2020/04/07/2004999117
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  20.  @aliikane  That is fake news.They have posted the original genome on Jan 11. Their sample is Type B same as sample from Korea and Japan. Unless all three countries coordinated to provide fake sample. They are genuine. Type B is a mutation from A and C from B. They have to have some similarity unless Italy, UK, France and Germany are all providing fake sample.
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  21.  @aliikane  I thought you are interested in facts. Apparently not. Read my post again, I said Nathan Rich is NOT a source but he has sources that you can check out. Please state where am I wrong in fact and I seldom insert an opinion. I have been looking for Chinese "misinformation" if you have them please share. If you are not interested in truth just the blame game so be it. BTW, Epoch Times is banned by Facebook. They have more fake account than Russian Troll farm.
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  22.  @aliikane  I can see you are a denier. Russia did not collude? Please read the Mueller report. Justin Amash , a conservative, agreed. Epoch Time created Spygate, they pushed Pizzagate until a man went to the Pizza place with a gun. Breibart and Daily Caller did the same thing too. Here's another SCIENTIFIC report from Insitut Pasteur in France. Basically said COVID in France did not originated from China https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.059576v1 Why don't you read some scientific report instead of conspiracy article. Do you think cambridge, Yale, Stanford, Northeastern, Oxford, UCSF are all spreading propaganda? Let's start with Peter Forster's paper. Is he lying? Why can't you at least quote article from CNN, NYT or Washington Post. Do you have any scientific paper at all? Or are you like all Trumpstards live in a fact free world. Do you believe injecting Lysol is a cure too?
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  23.  @xl5009  Please tell us about the lie. Do you even know what the lie is?
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  24.  @zilun  Hey man, close match is not a match in RNA. You can't grab a bat and get infected. It does not work like that. You need a host that mutate the virus. Showed me any scientific report that said the virus came DIRECTLY from the bat
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  25.  @zilun  Are you saying there is a date code in RNA. Please show me that. No dude, you can track the map and see how they mutate and travel. The only date is when the sample is taken and how fast the virus spread.
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  26.  @cheapogamer8920  They normally saved the tissue if there is an autopsy
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  27.  @sislertx  Paper are peer reviewed. You are not suggesting the entire scientific community are funded by China
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