Comments by "exnihilo415" (@exnihilo415) on "From Gay Drag Queen To Ex-Gay Pastor In Korea | ASIAN BOSS" video.

  1. Obviously it wrecked him for life. He's doing all he can to pretend he's not gay when he simultaneously can't even imagine other gays not having sex with 150 - 550 guys in a lifetime. This is what a homophobic society does to gay people. Turns gays against themselves and breaks them. Thankfully times are changing but he's stuck as a teenager in 1975. Sad.
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  2. So you’ll point out the data as long as it casts LGBT people in a negative light. Aha. Thanks for clarifying.
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  3.  @autisticphaglosophy7128  So you know "all the data" but can't find anything anywhere about LGBT people that could cast them or their contributions to society in a good light? Were you born that homophobic or did you have to work your way up to it?
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  4. Loving your spouse and having a sexual relationship with your spouse is not wrong. Any religion that says otherwise is not worth considering.
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  5. AIDS is not a death sentence. Magic Johnson and Greg Louganis are doing just fine.
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  6. @Anvith Shetty Asia is a big place. Depends on where and to what parents this non-straight child is born. My wife is trans and her parents have always been pretty good to her. Zero problems with our marriage today.
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  7. The world is changing. Trans people are being accepted more and more. You just have to hang on. My wife is trans. We're legally married and our surviving parents all embrace us. Know hope, girl. Hang in there.
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  8.  @domlee5902  Lee Jonah's self hating homophobia is harmful and dangerous. Look up all the ex-gay ministries that have fallen apart. Exodus International. Love in Action. Love Won Out. Read the "Former Ex-Gay Leaders Unite in Opposition to Conversion Therapy" open letter. Changing someone's sexual orientation does not work. Thankfully it's illegal now in a growing list of jurisdictions, sadly Korea isn't yet among them.
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  9. I’d you look up ex-gay ministries you’ll discover that the ex-gay men running them invariably break down and become ex-ex-gay. Look up Exodus International. Trying to change your sexual orientation by force of will has an incredibly poor track record.
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  10.  @ItsBrittanyLajoyce  That's a form of conversion therapy to me. Trying to talk someone out of their sexual orientation to appease a homophobic society and religion is abuse and should be illegal in Korea as it is in some places.
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  11. Exactly. Do something for Pride month Asian Boss aside from highlighting the work of an ex-gay ministry.
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  12. Lesbians have a lower chance of getting hiv than heterosexuals. Female to female transmission of HIV is almost impossible. Curious that this is almost never mentioned. It’s almost like people are cherry picking facts to make all LGBT people look bad. Nah, that couldn’t be. Yes, gay men have been hugely impacted by HIV. Blaming the victim is really a good look. Keep it up. Dance on their graves while you’re at it. I completely understand how serious HIV is. I was alive before the ARV cocktail transformed HIV from a death sentence to a once a day pill that eliminates it’s impact. LGBT people are human and deserve equality under the law. We’re just trying to live our best lives the same as anyone else.
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  13. Powerfully absurd. Plenty of gay men are happily married in monogamous relationships in America and Europe which our good pastor here is on record saying is practically impossible. I’m all for adults doing what they want, I’m completely not in favor of LGBT kids being “willfully” dragged in under threat of disownment to convert to being heterosexual to appease their homophobic parents.
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  14. Being gay is a weakness? How do you figure?
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  15. I've got 1000 Won that says if you sent a hot Korean male stripper over there in his underwear Lee Jonah would be ex-gay in name only. I think he's one round of chemotherapy and one blowjob away from putting the bible back in the drawer and trying to grab at the last shred of happiness available to him in this life.
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  16. The self hating gays know how to self hate, that's for sure.
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  17. I pray that he’ll go to a therapist that can help him make sense of his mom’s suicide and he can rethink his recent choices.
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  18. His worldview and psyche was completely wrecked by his mom killing herself and blaming him. He blames himself and can only escape that guilt by pretending that he’s not gay. Changing your sexual orientation is next to impossible. Try it some time. He needs some therapy to work out these issues with his mom’s so he can actually be gay and be able to sleep at the same time. Ex-gay ministries such as this always fall apart as the self hating gay men running them invariably break down. Look up Exodus International.
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  19. Unbelievable denial of self caused by childhood traumatic events.
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  20. The poll metrics from every developed country show a steady increase in support for LGBT marriage equality and equal rights. If that’s failure, I want more of it. Go look them up. Gallup and Pew are The gold standard in the US polling. Whatever we’re doing is working and working well. Sure it will eventually level off and you’ll never get that last 15%, in the same way that that a small segment of people will never support interracial marriage. I’ve been around a long time and I’ve seen the entire sea change in LGBT rights in the west and the bad old days when the approval ratings were upside down. Asia still has a long way to go but Taiwan, Thailand and Hong Kong are leading the way, slowly.
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  21. So mockery and violence isn't always the answer? I dunno. That's pretty hard to imagine. /s
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  22. I’m gay and I’m happy. Who are you to tell me otherwise? I know dozens of gay people and dozens of straight people. Some are happy and others aren’t. We’re all human. It’s not an iffy topic it’s an important one. Having this segment of society twisting in the wind without legal equality and social discrimination is a grand injustice in the world and a source of vast unnecessary misery. There are definitely more than 2% in America and Europe and 1% elsewhere. How many people come out of the closet is a function of how difficult it is to be a LGBT person in that place. Look at Thailand. There are plenty of trans women and gays and lesbians. Certainly more than 2% per capita. Now look at the Middle East where you can be put in jail for being gay. It doesn’t take a genius to deduce that how many out and visible LGBT people a society has is a function of how much repression there is in that society.
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  23. Gay people are gay. They’re not going to suddenly find women attractive because of this hocus pocus. Ex gay ministries fail spectacularly. Look into the history of them.
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  24. My wife is legally female and the county clerk said, “I now pronounce you husband and wife”. Love is love. Disapprove all you like, I’ll just love my wife more the more adversity I face. It’s like a daily reminder to appreciate what you have. Thanks!
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  25. As a gay man I feel the same. I’ve followed the train wreck of ex-gay ministries around the US for the last 20 years. It all ends the same way. Huge group of disgruntled angry gay guys that felt deceived as the leaders finally broke down themselves unable to live a lie as well. I’m not at all happy about what he’s doing to his clients but at the same time I mostly feel pity for what concentrated homophobia can do to these vulnerable people.
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  26. ...or he could just be lying about not being attracted to men now because he blames himself for his mom’s suicide and this is the only way he can mentally cope. We’ll never know.
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  27. Only his oncologist has any hope of doing that.
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  28.  @clarissadickinson7044  Nicely said, Clarissa. More people need to look into the track record of other ex-gay ministries. As these ex-gays in leadership can't keep up the charade any longer they become ex-ex-gay. Everyone should do a youtube search for Exodus International.
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  29. Why would you think that? I'm gay and I mostly just pity the poor guy.
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  30. If you're not homophobic I'm sure you'd say the same thing about a straight man who wanted help being gay, right?
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  31.  @Catcatcat299  Attempting to change your sexual orientation to appease religious doctrine is ridiculous. The history of ex gay ministries is the history of failure. Don’t take my word for it. Any casual web search reveals such.
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  32. Exactly this. If you can't support your LGBT child you have no business being a parent.
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  33. The Williams Institute has best effort transgender calculations for the USA and they’re higher than 0.3% double that. Thailand is surely higher than the USA for trans people by any way you want to measure it. The barrier to entry is way lower. There are a few percent of bisexuals that aren’t represented here. Particularly ones that are in opposite sex relationships. What is your reasoning behind your estimates for the rest of the world having half the LGBT people as America and Europe? What’s your source for 2% of LGBT people being in the closet? Just a guess? I don’t disagree that the number of LGBT people is small. I certainly never said it wasn’t small. At the same time I’m sure it’s more than 2% worldwide but probably less than 5%. The closeted and the bisexual and the closeted bisexual are larger than you’d initially imagine. There isn’t a way to get accurate stats at all given how forbidden being gay is in many places in the world. Being gay was just decriminalized in India for crying out loud and that’s a significant fraction of the world’s population. Just because it’s not billions doesn’t mean LGBT equality isn’t important.
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  34. Ugh. Conversion Therapy is illegal in dozens of countries and many jurisdictions around the world. Unfortunately not Korea. Get on it, Korea. No more kids need to go through this psychological torture to appease their homophobic parents and society. Enough.
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  35. He should be working in suicide prevention and battling social homophobia so that others don't don't go through the same trauma that he did with his mom's suicide over his sexuality.
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  36. Just substitute "Self Hating" in place of "Ex" and it all makes sense.
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  37. Ha. Being gay was depathologized by the APA / DSM in 1974, not 2014. Were you even alive at that time? Here you are still making excuses.
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  38. Heh. Not the gay Koreans in Itaewon that I know. Cheers!
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  39. I can’t imagine how that was true. I think he was trying to imply something else that got lost in editing.
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  40. How is an ex-gay ministry a "A great and hugely Unspoken side of the LGBTQ movement in secular circles". Seems like the exact opposite.
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  41.  @LumeanTV  Sometimes it takes moving away to a place that's more accepting. Other times you can make it work where you are. Wherever you go and wherever you to, I hope that it goes well for you. I highly recommend a trip to Thailand. It really is great to see so many trans people out in public just living their lives. Cheers.
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  42.  @LumeanTV  My wife is a Thai trans woman and I've been there many times. There are pros and cons to being trans in Thailand. The cons are that you can't change your legal gender, no matter what. There is also no same sex marriage. My wife is male there on her ID and we can't marry. That's a huge con. Limited rights same sex marriage will probably happen this year though, but that won't change the legal gender problem. There is also very weak LGBT discrimination law and terrible HIV law. There is quite a bit of structural transphobia in the workplace. On the plus side is that there are a lot of trans people living openly. No one bats an eye or is going to make comments at seeing a trans woman. Living in the closet as a trans person in Thailand is very uncommon whereas elsewhere it's quite common. There is world class access to all types of trans surgeries and hormones at reasonable rates. My wife and I are legally married in California and live in San Francisco, now. She's legally female here. Happy to talk more about that if you're interested. I mentioned Thailand since I figured you were somewhere in Asia and it would be somewhat easy to get there and of all places in Asia it's got to rank up there as one of the best places to be trans along with the Philippines.
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  43. It’s quite cheap to fly to BKK from LAX or SFO as Long as it’s not July or December. It’s a popular destination for a reason. Great hiking and jungle in the north and great beaches in the south. The food is amazing and inexpensive and people are lovely. It’s really easy to travel there while trans. Definitely check it out. If you’re interested in any surgeries hospitals there are world class and affordable. Happy travels. Cheers.
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  44. Praying away the gay. /facepalm
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  45. Conversion is illegal in many countries and states for a good reason.
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  46.  @1anfinity08  Not trying to change someone's sexual orientation to meet the demands of a homophobic society and religion, for starters.
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  47.  @1anfinity08  I'm not going to litigate Teleological and Deontological ethics theory right here in the comments section, for you. Look in any Ethics 101 philosophy college textbook for all the details. As someone that's seen firsthand the damage that conversion therapy has done to LGBT youth I'm not going to stand for such homophobic horsesh1t. I don't care what moral judgement you assign to me: amoral, good, evil or otherwise. Makes no difference to me. That's between you and your moral consciousness. The "good" is my own special moral calculus and that's on the side of protecting LGBT people from self hating gay men running ex-gay organizations like Exodus International, Love Wins Out, Love In Action, etc which have all fallen apart spectacularly and the ex-gay leaders have gone ex-ex-gay. I have no desire to convince you of anything.
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  48. There isn’t the space to litigate an entire semester of ethics theories to address your “what is good” questions. From Kant to Mill to Rawls, et al. The bottom line is that everyone is assessing the question differently. Go enroll at your local university for summer ethics classes today. I’m not having an argument here, you are. I’m not interested in addressing counter arguments to LGBT kids being willfully dragged into ex-gay therapy by homophobic parents or they’ll disown them. I know what that’s like first hand and if any cursory study of the ex gay ministries like Exodus International isn’t enough to make you realize the cruel folly of such endeavors than paragraphs of blather we could spew at each other certainly won’t.
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  49. I question the degree of free will involved when parents are using emotional and financial blackmail to strong arm their homophobic beliefs onto their LGBT kids. Licensed therapists also have no place in attempting to change something that is not a problem in the DSM 5. If you’re gay you’re gay. You don’t need fixing. If legal adults of their own free will want to subject themselves to whatever torturous religious indoctrination they want to, then that’s fine. That isn’t what I’m concerned about here. Again, I’m not interested in a debate. Feel free to disagree and consult the internet for the volumes that have been written by actual experts in mental health.
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  50.  @rihamashraf4493  Getting rid of your sexual orientation simply doesn’t work. I doubt very highly you could try and succeed to be gay. Sure, some bisexuals can focus on their heterosexual side of their desires or people can lead loveless lives but pretending that a “lot” of people can do this and lead a satisfying life is not borne out by the data from any of these ex gay ministries that have tried this at scale.
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  51.  @rihamashraf4493  There is nothing wrong with being gay. I know that many of these ex-gay ministries failed spectacularly. Some people can certainly delude themselves and lie to others to seek the acceptance of the church or family at the expense of their honest feelings. If people want to torture themselves in this manner then they are welcome to do so.
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  52. ​ @rihamashraf4493  Yawn. If you haven’t had an STI or two you haven’t really lived as a sexual being, either gay or straight. Stick to Sunday School, kiddo. Heart disease and cancer will kill almost all of us eventually. The point of life isn’t maximizing longevity, it’s living the life you want to live. Increase your odds eating your veggies, jogging around the block and marrying as a Virgin and maybe you’ll have a statistical edge at living longer. Quantity isn’t quality. I wouldn’t give up 1 year of my life for 10 lived as you and I’m sure the feeling is mutual. Looking down your nose at gay people is just conceited and self righteous. But go on believing that gay men can decide to not love men by force of will all you want if it helps you sleep at night knowing you ‘did all you could’ to ‘help’ someone that didn’t need help in the first place until social or family pressure made them play your religious charade despite their fundamental nature. Our hero, indeed.
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  53.  @rihamashraf4493  You should see a therapist to talk through your difficulties around sexual attraction. We’re not going to convince each other of anything. I know your position and you know my position. I don’t have week to litigate these claims, all of which have been asked and answered and debated endlessly previously on the internet. You’ll find sources you like and I’ll find sources I like and we’ll just chew up a lot of time typing words and doing nothing.
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  54. Ok. Thanks.
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  55.  @ItsBrittanyLajoyce  11:50
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  56. Bisexual checking in. What do you want to know?
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  57.  @winniethepooh8353  All the Christians I've ever known have treated being bi as the same as being gay. If you're not straight then you're a sinner. Of course bisexual men who are in relationships with women often don't arouse much attention in this regard. There is a phenomenon called "bi erasure"
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  58. I've got to wonder how happy those people coming to him are going to be when they discover that it's neigh impossible to change your sexuality by force of will. Deeply unhappy if the experience of all the other ex-gay ministries that have come to pass is any indication.
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  59.  @Samperor  some people also lie about not being gay to fit in. Some people also win the lottery. What are the typical results? Intentionally trying to change your sexuality to appease homophobic parents or not be outcast by your social group or religion? Results are not great. Do a youtube search for Exodus International, at the time the largest ex-gay ministry in the world.
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  60. That would have been a much better interview!
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  61. Music genre popularity is not a comparable analogy to civil rights. Show me the polls of LGBT acceptance becoming less prevalent. It isn’t happening. I’m not stepping on the slippery slope with you on robot cyborg beast marriages. Let those people make their case in the court of public opinion and the court of law as LGBT people have done. I’m talking about my own legal marriage between two consenting human adults. We’re doing great. Thanks for asking. We are dedicated to each other and our community in the same way that other heterosexuals in the neighborhood are.
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  62. Thankfully that's more rare. Usually the ex-gay ministry leaders eventually come to realize that praying away the gay doesn't work and they shut down the ministry and become gay men. Look up Exodus International on youtube.
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  63. Being gay is not harmful. Gay people don’t need fixing. The homophobic society that emotionally blackmails gay men into this pray away the gay self hating nonsense is to blame
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  64. Abstinence isn't hereditary.
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  65. only fools assume everyone is telling the truth. Do some reading about ex-gay ministries and groups and see what their track record is like. Here is a taste: “David Matheson from Journey into Manhood joins a growing list of prominent people who have left the ex-gay movement. Those include Michael Bussee, one of the original founders of the well-known ex-gay group Exodus (the U.S. branch shut down in 2013); John Paulk, the poster-child for ex-gay group Love Won Out; John Smid, former director of ex-gay group Love In Action and Tim Rymel, former outreach director at Love In Action. Alan Chambers, former head of Exodus US. “ Do a YouTube search for Exodus International and watch the interviews of people who had been through the program when they were younger confront the leader, Alan Chambers.
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  66. I’m not sure how much choice he really had. His own mother killing herself because he was gay and destroying his entire family life Impacted him to the degree that he said he couldn’t sleep and was having panic attacks over being gay. That isn’t an equal choice and that trauma is real. His mother and society clearly reduced his functional choices.
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  67. There are plenty of people on this planet already. I’d rather help take care of the people who are here already than manufacturing new life. The earth has 7.53 billion people and is in no danger of underpopulation, exactly the opposite. Fewer people being born is a good thing. What a few percent of the LGBT population does or doesn’t do with respect to reproduction doesn’t even move the needle on country wide fertility rates. Government has no place endorsing a particular religion or religious doctrine. All counties are a mix of many religions and treating all citizens equally, including gay citizens, under the law requires government not endorse any particular religion.
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