Comments by "Random Thoughts" (@anuragsinha2013) on "Hindustan Times"
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America is a called a "Nation of immigrants" because they cannot claim themselves to be the "Native' of that Land".
Nation of immigrants is mainly a marketing ploy to sell thier story. United States is mainly a country that came into being with a Genocide of the native Americans and then dropped two nukes to become a superpower.
Because of two world wars, European Imperialism and colonization (thanks to western civilization), "The Rest" of the world was robbed of it's wealth, and America was left as the last man standing.
Since then US has ran from third base to fourth base and called themselves a winner of the world series.
Sometimes there is also an attempt by the Left (and Right) to sell America not a country but an idea, that's also false marketing.
America is largely a White, Right wing, Nationalistic, Capitalistic, Christian Conservative country that has two Right wing political party governed by a Deep State much like Pakistan.
Pakistan is a lot more similar to USA than One would think.
Both Pakistan and USA are run by a Deep State.
The Pakistani Deep State is of Mullahs, Chaudhari Zamindars, Army and ISI.
And
America has Deep state that consists of military industrial complex and wall Street.(Micimatt)
America has a deep state just like Pakistan has a deep state, may be that's why the two get along so well. America can tell them what to do and they'll just do it.
There is a 75 year data on Pakistan, Go look back at that history you will notice the same pattern again and again.
Both Pakistan and USA are deeply religious countries.
In America, you would need the Evangelist vote to win an election. All the Pakistani politicians lean into thier religion to get elected. (Imran Khan and Trump are both gaffe machines and also a bit similar)
You can say that India and Israel are religious countries too, but both India and Israel are more culturally religious and more non denomination in nature. Most Hindus are just *"Hindus who celebrate diwali"*.
Indians and Chinese indigenous religious groups that are entwined with cultural and civilizational history of each country. Which is where India and China have a lot more in common with each other.
And
Most Jews are just Hanukkah celebrating Jews and nothing more.
Where as a lot of Americans behave like Bible thumping Christians and most Pakistanis behave like are Quran thumping Islamist.
Obviously, In the Rest of the world no one takes each of them seriously, on thier claim of the religion.
Saudis and Arabs mock the Pakistanis for thier claim on Islam.
And
The early Christian nations in Europe don't take America's claim on Christianity seriously.
Europeans don't take America' claim on being a guardian of "Western Civilizations" seriously or American claims of being "Irish" or "Italian" seriously as is it is with Americans claim on Christianity.
Both America and Pakistan have directly or indirectly funded terrorists and terrorists groups as well as both US and Pakistan have engaged in genocide of the natives.
The civilizational history that Americans claim is in another continent and they tend to reject the civilizational history of Native Americans.
The civilizational History that Pakistan claim is in the middle east and they tend to reject the civilizational history of Native Indians.
And Guess what! Both America and Pakistan have topped the list of the biggest threat to Global peace.
Just look at the situation now.
Money is fungible until Americans pay Pakistan or Saudis or Qataris or Mujahideens, that is thier hypocritical stance. Mujahideen were supposedly freedom fighters until they attacked the Americans on 9/11 and suddenly they got classified as Terrorists.
So, Even though the Americans will be extremely difficult to subjugate by the Deep state in America than in Pakistan, On the power structure of the Deep state US and Pakistan are a lot similar.
On the other hand,
Indians have this constant colonial hangover to be liked by The West and The West have constantly chosen Pakistan over India.
Did they like you when (Mahatma) Gandhi was around? No.
Did they like you when Nehru was around? No.
(They chose Gen Ayub Khan on one side and Chairman Mao on the other side)
Did they like you when Indira Gandhi was around? No.
Did they like you when Manmohan Singh was around? No.
(They had a huge problem with you buying oil from Iran, they were upset with you in the UN for your position on Syria and for non intervention position in Libya)
Do they like you when Modi is around? No.
In the case of US,
The world has extremely lenient standards for US,
They dropped two nukes on Japan, the world forgives it,
They dropped chemical bombs on Korea, the world forgives it,
They dropped Cluster bombs in Vietnam and the world forgives it,
They Carpet bombs Baghdad, the world forgives it.
They blow up Nord stream pipeline, the world forgives them.
Russia wouldn't be able get away with any of it?
This is just soft bigotry of low expectations.
I remember the time when the Americans used to say about the Soviet union "How can you support a country that spies on it's own people?".
Cut to 2010 Edward Snowden leaks, America is running the biggest surveillance state in human history.
Spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel,
Spying on Dilma Rouseff,
And
Spying on it's own Citizens.
America is the only country that I don't mind having no relationship with.
I don't mind building relationships with China, Russia, Brazil, Africa and South America or even UK, Germany, France, Israel and Japan along with rest of Europe and Asia.
And It's not even an Anti American thing, "May a thousand flowers bloom in America" and India may do well in our own "separate ways".(India and USA are both democracies but these are also two like charges that repel each other).
As far as US India Relationships go, that's pretty much a hard NO for me.
And I have been saying these things since the Iraq war.
(They'll drag you into a war and expect full loyalty from you. Just look at Tony Blair and Iraq war. Same situation is in Ukraine.)
India might not get along with China but We are not fan of US either.
If the relentless bullying and pressure from US continues, then We must just help China and/or align with China which might just replace US as a global hegemon.
The same way US helped China against the Soviet union. We might not be number 1 but when 0 aligns with any number the value of that number increases ten folds.
I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees and serve America.
America is a Democracy. But America is a Democracy In Name Only. As the old adage goes In China the policies change but the Government doesn't change, But in US, Governments change but the policies don't change.
Just as an example, America has had the same policies Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, there is very little difference between
1) George Bush sr and Bill Clinton
2) George Bush jr and Barack Obama
3) Donald Trump and Joe Biden
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Donald Trump is the most American president ever. He is also the most American looking man ever. Donald Trump is the most American person even, He's a showman, He's Smart, He's funny, He's charming, He's disloyal, He's Vulgar, He can be a bit Crass, He's Selfish, He's narcissistic, He's street smart, he can be blunt, He knows things broadly, he's doesn't know anything specifically, he has vague knowledge of anything, he has a high self image of himself, he likes to brag about himself and his money (very much an American quality), he's unapologetic, he's a bundle of contradiction, and He's amazingly fit for a guy who eats horrible food.
DONALD TRUMP IS AMERICA.
Donald Trump is shameless just like America is known to be shameless on the international stage. He's right on few things and he's wrong on few things. Like most American's he has an image of being dumb and stupid.
In a weird sort of way he's, He's a symptom of where America is and a microcosm of where America is.
People who like him, like him for who he is, people who dislike him, dislike for he is. People who hate him, hate him for who he is and what he represents, In a way they hate themselves and (hate the ugly parts of America and they see the ugly parts of America in him), and the Americans who love him, love him for who he is.
People try to argue policy difference between Democrat and Republican.
But, Post Cold war America' policies haven't changed much, George Bush sr, Bill Clinton, George Bush jr, Barack Obama, Donald Trump and Joe Biden have pretty much the same policies with some minor differences here and there.
Infact, Donald Trump ruled in pretty much like the Romney Ryan model. Obviously there is a difference in foreign policy, for which he gets push back from the establishment which thinks America should be the "Global Policeman of the world" and never allow itself to be the second biggest power in the world which is the Nixon model.(Widely accepted notion on both sides Democrat and Republican as well as on the Right and Left).
Because, America likes to be the Global Policeman of the World, they just don't like to admit it, that they like to be the Global Policeman of the world.
Even the ardent leftist will tell you Donald Trump pretty much ruled like the Romney Ryan model.
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@nordicgaming2572
The world has extremely lienent standards for US,
They dropped two nukes on Japan, the world forgets it,
They dropped nalpam bombs on Korea, the world forgets it,
They dropped Cluster bombs in Vietnam and the world forgets it,
They Carpet bombed Baghdad, the world forgets it.
Russia wouldn't be able get away with any of it?
The American's got away with nuking Japan.
Then they got away with the Korean War, (Chemical weapons)
Then they got away with The Vietnam War(Cluster Bombs),
They got away with what they did in East Timor.
They got away with what they did in Guatemala.
They got away with what they did in Chile.
They were supporting The Taliban and Bin Laden against Soviets.
Thier most stable relationship is With Saudi Arabia.
Then they got away with the Iraq war (Carpet bombing),
Then they got away with Libyan War,
Then they got away with Syrian War.
Then they got away with Ukraine War and bombings Nord stream 2 pipeline.
And the more they got away with, The more unhinged and Shameless the Empire became.
Obviously, the Europeans have been feeding the American Ego.
The English Keep repeating the Churchillian phrase, that In the End America will do the right thing after it has exhausted all the other options.
That ofcourse is a lie.
But the lies have begun to catch up.
As Bertrand Russell said he US is the Lesser of two "Evils" between USSR and USA. USSR is gone. USA is Evil remaining.
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@nordicgaming2572 The world has extremely lienent standards for US,
They dropped two nukes on Japan, the world forgets it,
They dropped nalpam bombs on Korea, the world forgets it,
They dropped Cluster bombs in Vietnam and the world forgets it,
They Carpet bombed Baghdad, the world forgets it.
Russia wouldn't be able get away with any of it?
The American's got away with nuking Japan.
Then they got away with the Korean War, (Chemical weapons)
Then they got away with The Vietnam War(Cluster Bombs),
They got away with what they did in East Timor.
They got away with what they did in Guatemala.
They got away with what they did in Chile.
They were supporting The Taliban and Bin Laden against Soviets.
Thier most stable relationship is With Saudi Arabia.
Then they got away with the Iraq war (Carpet bombing),
Then they got away with Libyan War,
Then they got away with Syrian War.
Then they got away with Ukraine War and bombings Nord stream 2 pipeline.
And the more they got away with, The more unhinged and Shameless the Empire became.
Obviously, the Europeans have been feeding the American Ego.
The English Keep repeating the Churchillian phrase, that In the End America will do the right thing after it has exhausted all the other options.
That ofcourse is a lie.
But the lies have begun to catch up.
As Bertrand Russell said he US is the Lesser of two "Evils" between USSR and USA. USSR is gone. USA is Evil remaining.
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America is a called a "Nation of immigrants" because they cannot claim themselves to be the "Native' of that Land".
Nation of immigrants is mainly a marketing ploy to sell thier story. United States is mainly a country that came into being with a Genocide of the native Americans and then dropped two nukes to become a superpower.
Because of two world wars, European Imperialism and colonization (thanks to western civilization), "The Rest" of the world was robbed of it's wealth, and America was left as the last man standing.
Since then US has ran from third base to fourth base and called themselves a winner of the world series.
Sometimes there is also an attempt by the Left (and Right) to sell America not a country but an idea, that's also false marketing.
America is largely a White, Right wing, Nationalistic, Capitalistic, Christian Conservative country that has two Right wing political party governed by a Deep State much like Pakistan.
Pakistan is a lot more similar to USA than One would think.
Both Pakistan and USA are run by a Deep State.
The Pakistani Deep State is of Mullahs, Chaudhari Zamindars, Army and ISI.
And
America has Deep state that consists of military industrial complex and wall Street.(Micimatt)
America has a deep state just like Pakistan has a deep state, may be that's why the two get along so well. America can tell them what to do and they'll just do it.
There is a 75 year data on Pakistan, Go look back at that history you will notice the same pattern again and again.
Both Pakistan and USA are deeply religious countries.
In America, you would need the Evangelist vote to win an election. All the Pakistani politicians lean into thier religion to get elected. (Imran Khan and Trump are both gaffe machines and also a bit similar)
You can say that India and Israel are religious countries too, but both India and Israel are more culturally religious and more non denomination in nature. Most Hindus are just *"Hindus who celebrate diwali"*.
Indians and Chinese indigenous religious groups that are entwined with cultural and civilizational history of each country. Which is where India and China have a lot more in common with each other.
And
Most Jews are just Hanukkah celebrating Jews and nothing more.
Where as a lot of Americans behave like Bible thumping Christians and most Pakistanis behave like are Quran thumping Islamist.
Obviously, In the Rest of the world no one takes each of them seriously, on thier claim of the religion.
Saudis and Arabs mock the Pakistanis for thier claim on Islam.
And
The early Christian nations in Europe don't take America's claim on Christianity seriously.
Europeans don't take America' claim on being a guardian of "Western Civilizations" seriously or American claims of being "Irish" or "Italian" seriously as is it is with Americans claim on Christianity.
Both America and Pakistan have directly or indirectly funded terrorists and terrorists groups as well as both US and Pakistan have engaged in genocide of the natives.
The civilizational history that Americans claim is in another continent and they tend to reject the civilizational history of Native Americans.
The civilizational History that Pakistan claim is in the middle east and they tend to reject the civilizational history of Native Indians.
And Guess what! Both America and Pakistan have topped the list of the biggest threat to Global peace.
Just look at the situation now.
Money is fungible until Americans pay Pakistan or Saudis or Qataris or Mujahideens, that is thier hypocritical stance. Mujahideen were supposedly freedom fighters until they attacked the Americans on 9/11 and suddenly they got classified as Terrorists.
So, Even though the Americans will be extremely difficult to subjugate by the Deep state in America than in Pakistan, On the power structure of the Deep state US and Pakistan are a lot similar.
On the other hand,
Indians have this constant colonial hangover to be liked by The West and The West have constantly chosen Pakistan over India.
Did they like you when (Mahatma) Gandhi was around? No.
Did they like you when Nehru was around? No.
(They chose Gen Ayub Khan on one side and Chairman Mao on the other side)
Did they like you when Indira Gandhi was around? No.
Did they like you when Manmohan Singh was around? No.
(They had a huge problem with you buying oil from Iran, they were upset with you in the UN for your position on Syria and for non intervention position in Libya)
Do they like you when Modi is around? No.
In the case of US,
The world has extremely lenient standards for US,
They dropped two nukes on Japan, the world forgives it,
They dropped chemical bombs on Korea, the world forgives it,
They dropped Cluster bombs in Vietnam and the world forgives it,
They Carpet bombs Baghdad, the world forgives it.
They blow up Nord stream pipeline, the world forgives them.
Russia wouldn't be able get away with any of it?
This is just soft bigotry of low expectations.
I remember the time when the Americans used to say about the Soviet union "How can you support a country that spies on it's own people?".
Cut to 2010 Edward Snowden leaks, America is running the biggest surveillance state in human history.
Spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel,
Spying on Dilma Rouseff,
And
Spying on it's own Citizens.
America is the only country that I don't mind having no relationship with.
I don't mind building relationships with China, Russia, Brazil, Africa and South America or even UK, Germany, France, Israel and Japan along with rest of Europe and Asia.
And It's not even an Anti American thing, "May a thousand flowers bloom in America" and India may do well in our own "separate ways".(India and USA are both democracies but these are also two like charges that repel each other).
As far as US India Relationships go, that's pretty much a hard NO for me.
And I have been saying these things since the Iraq war.
(They'll drag you into a war and expect full loyalty from you. Just look at Tony Blair and Iraq war. Same situation is in Ukraine.)
India might not get along with China but We are not fan of US either.
If the relentless bullying and pressure from US continues, then We must just help China and/or align with China which might just replace US as a global hegemon.
The same way US helped China against the Soviet union. We might not be number 1 but when 0 aligns with any number the value of that number increases ten folds.
I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees and serve America.
America is a Democracy. But America is a Democracy In Name Only. As the old adage goes In China the policies change but the Government doesn't change, But in US, Governments change but the policies don't change.
Just as an example, America has had the same policies Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, there is very little difference between
1) George Bush sr and Bill Clinton
2) George Bush jr and Barack Obama
3) Donald Trump and Joe Biden
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