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Comments by "" (@tomk3732) on "Russia says it fired warning shots at British warship - BBC News" video.
It does not matter UK recognizes Crimea as part of Russia or not. 12nm is claimed and has to be respected. UK claimed "innocent passage" which again is BS as this applies to passages where it would be impossible to get somewhere / would be considerable hardship when not able to pass. Crimea is not located anywhere near such location. Saving of few gallons of fuel is not real reason. The idea is to just create an incident. Zero international legality on UK part and on US part back in the 80s.
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Sure they were doing gunnery exercises with splashes in front of the destroyer. Patrol craft and destroyer are on video - even if no shots where fired we can clearly see both.
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As someone from UK pointed out UK does not want to look weak. They probed Russia's (or occupied by Russia) waters and got rather swift and overwhelming response. We have video from a Russian drone showing Su-24, patrol craft all converging on British ship violating international law. The whole interaction was less then 30min - Brits were swarmed within less then 15min by Russians. Clearly Russians were watching them very closely and with attention.
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Ummm, its a destroyer. Vs. a lot of aircraft of the Russian Federation right next to their bases. I am sure few planes would be lost but there is no change that ship would not get sunk. More likely scenario is standard ramming. Russians just need to use their oldest ship - which for Black sea is easy as all ships are old.
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@hmalik5232 3km deep. UK does not deny it.
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@hmalik5232 And relevance here is?
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They can visit for few weeks. This is one of these visitors. Just trying to be a pain in the rear end.
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Umm, no they do not. I do not recall a single incident in last decade. Air identification zone is NOT sovereign airspace.
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It supposedly dropped 4 general purpose 250kg bombs in front. We do get video of the destroyer from a drone and a video of the fighter bomber crossing next to it - I wonder whatever there will be video of actual bomb drop. Certainly Russians were in force with also a patrol craft in the video. Patrol craft clearly veers towards the destroyer and has a huge wake - it was going fast.
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So why is there a UK ship so close to Russia? I assume you do not count UK as part of Western Europe. Even if you only count say France they certainly did invade and fought many times after WWII - say the kicking they got in Vietnam where Vietnamese fought off French to grab freedom just for US to come in and try to tarnish it.
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@El-Jefe Imagine HMS Defender has to be towed back to UK after one of warning bombs goes off too close. What an embarrassment.
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Russian warning shots simply were not recorded by the British which point out next time they should just shoot at the destroyer to get someone's attention. I mean these ships are now so automated that there are to few pp to actually see what is going on.
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They were doing gunnery exercise close to UK destroyer - which despite a warning of such exercise was... so close as to see it... this makes little sense. If someone was on the range would you run in front of their gun or anywhere close to it?
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Video shows UK warship does take a sharp turn to get out of Russian controlled territorial waters with a smaller patrol craft in hot pursuit, at least one Su-24 flying around and a drone taking a video. You cannot see any shots on video even if they were made. If there were bombs dropped they are not on video. Just one RN destroyer with angry Russians on its tail.
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@stevetheduck1425 They do but you would not be able to see gunfire as it is too small. Gunfire is reported by BBC from the deck of the UK warship - see video from HMS Defender - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLPYAKL-f2M
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@stevetheduck1425 Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLPYAKL-f2M at 3 min mark you can hear shots fired. BBC own guy on board UK destroyer. So Russians may not have it but UK sure does.
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