Comments by "" (@tomk3732) on "Turkish 5th gen fighter jet (almost) ready for its first flight!" video.

  1. One should not under estimate Turkey but Turkey is wise not to underestimate others as well - was it Catharine the great that gave Turkey some good spanking? The aircraft has 4th gen engines from 1980s. One of the main 5th gen aircraft aspects that make it 5th gen is the 5th gen engine. Turkey does not have one... nor even close to the tech needed to get one. Turkey would need to get warm with either Xi or Putin.
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  2. 8:35 it does not have 5th gen engines. These F110 engines are OLD - they are from 4th gen aircraft and from 1980s (!!!) 4.69:1 intermediate power weight ratio - and max thrust is 73kn dry F-22 uses F119 engines. 6.7:1 (intermediate) and power is a whopping 116kn Russian weak Su-57 engine is 86.30 kN and Thrust-to-weight ratio: 5.49 (dry) Russian strong engine is 108kn and Thrust-to-weight ratio: 7.45:1 i.e. better than F-22. So as you can see Turkey has 4.5++ gen aircraft similar to F-15 maybe F-15X. Similar to Su-35.
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  3.  @miruu28  Sure, I guess both Russia and US should hire Turkish engineers as it took them 20 years each ;)
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  4.  @oghuzkhan5117  LOL, that would be both faster and better development than US - would Turkey consider selling this engine to backwardly Americans? With such advanced tech, why is Turkey not on Mars yet? Heck, Turkey should have space statin in orbit somewhere around Mars now. Also look at amazing development timeframe, compare to these primitive Americans - "Engines aboard Lockheed Martin's next generation F-35 fighters have been almost 30 years in the making. "
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  5. Not really. They made cheap copies of old US design. Same here - they are using engines from F-16 / F-15 ... tech from 1980s.
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  6. Turkey made - maybe - a 4.5 gen aircraft that is yet to actually fly. France makes 4.5 aircraft that fly now for like what, a decade?
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  7. LOL! With 1980s engines ;) TB-2 known as the flame of Ukraine ;) Again copy of first US combat drone ;) Do you think people in the west are stupid or something?
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  8. Correct. It has even weaker engines than Su-35. It is a stealthy F-15... 4.5 gen. Engines are of F-15 / F-16. Problem is Turkey is around 30 years behind in engine development - or 20 years. Without simply buying an engine from someone you will be waiting a very, very long time.
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  9.  @cemsefayavuz2517  No. It takes decades to make a 5th gen engine. You cannot just "make it" - the 5th gen aircraft difference from 4.5 is mostly... the engine. Turkey cannot easily develop such engine & by the time they do - they will have a 20 year old air frame to put it in. They need to acquire such engine - from either China or Russia. But neither is selling.... maybe in 10 years. Also being heavy 2 engine aircraft this is wrong approach for Turkey. US has less than 200 F-22s, Russia plans less than 100 Su-57s, does Turkey plan for less then 50 Kaan fighters then?
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  10.    Then don't be surprised if an actual war corrects your world view very quickly.
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  11.  @ÖmerPirbudak-n3d  ... But that could take 20 years!
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  12.  @ÖmerPirbudak-n3d  But England does not have the tech either and even if they did its unlikely they would have sold it to Turkey. I am unsure youtube will still be a thing when these engines are ready.
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  13.  @navidbutt17  Correct - and to get that any engine you either need to design it, or buy it. I doubt Turkey can buy from US - so that leaves Putin or Xi or 20 year design time. Also your Mach 1.6 is better than F-22 - so the engines would have to be better than what US got. 1.6 would be best in the world. I doubt Turkey can pass everyone on earth in engine design when its their ... first engine ;)
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  14.  @samedaltun  First 5th generation engine. TEI-TF10000 are not engines for fighter aircraft but for drones ;) I did research objectively. Producing 1980s fighter engines and new engines for drones is light ways away from 5th gen engine. Literally 20+ years. So what that Kaan will fly this month? Who cares - it has no engines.... and none are even in semi advanced development phase AFAIK. Again, either Xi or Putin - or 20 years. And 20 years is optimistic.
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  15.  @noraarelee3863  What drone? Now like 30 year old tech? Turkey purchased some original US drones and had access to that tech. Not too complex tech. Turkey now has zero access to F-35 & even if it did, it is not simple tech. Better than China? Really? This is why China makes like 80% of world's drones?
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  16.  @ErsanYolcu  One has to quote "9 women cannot give birth in 1 month". Also $$$ invested by US or $$$ by Russia or China is huge. Same as number of people.
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  17.  @oghuzkhan5117  No one currently has such engines ;) This would be significantly more powerful than F135 engine on F35. So if Turkey has such advanced engines why US did not buy from Turkey - or Russia? Or China? I mean this is better then even engines that US has in early stages of planning ;) Or wait, do you mean actual fighter engines or engines for civilian airliners? Boeing 777 engines produce up to 510kn! 170kn here would be more for regional aircraft. So yeah, I mean it - Turkey has old junk engines.... for its fighters. No tech.
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  18.  @oghuzkhan5117  From 2020 or so "Turkish factories currently make more than 900 parts for the F-35's center fuselage, cockpit display systems and other components," - maybe its under "other" but certainly not seen in the west as "major" part. As for 3D printing in Ti "With metal 3D printing, the most commonly-used grade of titanium is the alloy, Ti6Al4V (Ti64). In addition to Ti64, it's also possible to 3D print with pure titanium.Jun 18, 2019" and "titanium costs about $363 per kilogram". Its commercial tech. You give me plans and I can print it out.
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