Comments by "" (@tomk3732) on "Trial for detained Canadian Michael Kovrig ends in Beijing, verdict to be announced later" video.

Actually they just read instructions from the government what to do - similar to Canada.
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@sash4593 What is her crime exactly? Same as two M's. Accusations against her are a pure joke - if it was not US but any other country doing so they would be ignored.
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I expect this to drag on as long as the Meng case is being dragged on for. How could our PM be so ... "unwise" as to drag as into this dirt with a simple finger movement of US - we should have at least make it hard for US to do this to us - we look very weak internationally and a "state" that is on paper only - 100% submissive to US.
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They would not go home, they would just jump across the border to the US.
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This is why US - an empire that is loosing - will do what everyone else did before it, start a war (economic so far) in order to slow down the transition. History shows that US eventually will loose and China will become world leader.
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@user-ji8ll1qn6o LOL, she is not released to the US as the US would be forced to do something - hence the process in Canada is taking many years. As soon as US in wining days of Trump talked about deal immediately there was talk about release of Meng. I.e. as long as she is in Canada US - China can negotiate her release. China taken two Canadians to show Canada and more importantly rest of the world, that such subservience to US interests will not be tolerated. Once Meng is in the US she is certain to spend there a long time same as two M's are in China - US at that time can still cut a deal, but the M's are not worth much to US & of low value. Canada is simply a proxy. I have no idea how taking two M's pressures Canada not to give out Meng - Canada is in US pocket and will hold her as long as requested or release her when requested - two M's are as stated above a warning that this is not without consequences.
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@sash4593 But I am not Chinese. Even if you learn to speak local language and learn a lot about China and culture they will never see you as Chinese - they are a bit racist like that. Asian privilege.
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They are dragging this on as long as Meng is being dragged. All three are hostages of US China policy.
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They are kind of important - soon to be #1 in the world in economic power in real $. They have a huge army of allies most of which are still afraid of US sanctions.
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Most of these NGO's are just spy bases. Chinese reaction was warranted - they cannot just allow one of their citizens to be taken and do "nothing" - this would set precedent where their executives all over the world could be taken.
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Most of Europe either tries to be neutral or is firmly with China and only bows to US under threat of sanctions. All of Africa is a friend of China. If China managed to patch things up with India we would have a huge anti US block.
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I doubt that - they will be where Meng is today - in holding pattern. I doubt China will pass verdict so soon - they could through to shock others. I say 20 years each. You can always reduce sentence later. We do not really have a manufacturing sector in Canada.
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Actually UK banks. She is more specifically accused of not providing info that her company may be linked to Iran (which is under US sanctions) to UK bank while being in HK during a 30 min power point presentation.
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@user-ji8ll1qn6o UK banks do business within US (and obviously with US banks) thus if they dealt as well with anyone that deals with Iran they would be breaking sanctions.
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De G In 30 years China will be about double economy of USA. India is not a Scandinavian country - that is northern Europe and they are mostly quite rich or even richer then Canada so no need to develop them. Since China is very populous we will see a lot of viruses and other stuff coming from them and/or India. Are you also willing to punish UK as well as others for producing some potent mutations? If it was bio weapon I am sure it would be a bit more lethal :) China will not hold to #1 - no one can - it is certain through that in 100-200 year span as things are going the future of humanity is in Asia - i.e. Star Trek will contain mostly Asians.
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LOL - I am sure this is what they would not mind in the US - as soon as they can remove Chinese students from Canada the sooner they can come to the US.
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@user-ji8ll1qn6o LOL, when Australia did restrictions US immediately told China "we can sell you this" - when Canada kicks Chinese students out US is guaranteed to immediately say "we take them with open arms" - its good for trade balance after all.
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@thevirusfactory2332 Olympics should be above politics. Boycotting them was idiotic in the past and will be so in the future. It also hurts athletes of the nation boycotting.
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De G In their view we are doing a lot of wrong. This is against the spirit of the Olympics. It was done before and was proven as terrible idea.
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@user-ji8ll1qn6o Canada and US are not the whole world. We are not even 5% of the population.
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De G Not really - the world is quickly evening out - just look at where poor countries were 20 years ago, 40 years ago and 60 vs today. I.e. your assertion of consumerism is false. All you need to give people is technology - which China is totally fine with giving. Thus in 30 years the western countries such as EU and US / Canada etc will account for less then 1/3 of global market - Heck China alone will be greater then all of the current west combined (!) Once we finally get India into the program as well as rest of Asia I am sure that even you can see it. Problem is that the west arguably accounts for no more 1/8 of world population - thus even with 1/3 factor we are giving everyone still a huge edge. In 50-60 years this will even out more and in 100 there will be very few differences.
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De G Well, we can see today that it is not correct view - we see that a lot of countries - including China have reached quite high levels. You have a theory that was correct in colonial times when world economy could be compared to a balloon - if you pinched it in the right spot you got far bigger share then others - if no one were to pinch it all would be poor (vs some very poor and some rich) - this is how British Empire functioned. However, we are not longer in so much of scarcity of resources phase - i.e. our economies are mostly services with tiny pinch of manufacturing - with exception of say Saudi Arabia and Australia our wealth can be limitless and unbound by some limited resource. India brought the issue on themselves with some poorly calculated moves - they wanted Goa - a small Portuguese colony in India. Instead of waiting few years they decided to have a little tiny war. This gave China legitimate reason to settle border dispute in their region also by force & win another war with India. To this day India and China have disputes in the region - as does a lot of others. India is behind China a LOT - its people are far less educated, it has archaic systems of governance and its democracy is quite flawed. Being both in India and China I can guarantee that India will be one of the last countries on Earth to reach prosperity - many countries in Africa if they control birth rate will beat them. As for China thinking the world is going to remain the same - I think that is more US thinking then Chinese - China is very future and change oriented - they are building more railways and highways then the rest of the planet combined. They invest heavily in latest technologies and education. I do not see China limiting some technology at all - I do see US trying all sorts of sanctions to limit spread of technology - for example US coerced with sanctions EU to not export latest chips to Hauwei. All this did was for China to invest even more to jump the gate and within few years it will have capacity to produce all latest chips for its phones (it does 10% currently) - give it few years and it will exceed technologically its competitors. Then we see whatever they will limit technology - so far I see only US doing limiting. I doubt 3D printing is as magical as you think - it is just another process - additive - similar to current common processes which are subtractive. I.e. 3D printing just wastes less material and in some cases it is cheaper and faster. It does not fundamentally remove anything from the manufacturing process - its just another tool. The problem with manufacturing in say Canada is not luck of some magic but luck of people / machinery / investment / high pay to even contemplate competing with China. Let me put it this way, when I make a part out of steel the material to make the part + energy + cutting costs etc. is roughly in line with the cost of the part in China mainland. I.e. in your 3D world, the cost for 3D printer in Canada to make widget X will be roughly the same in material cost as ready made good in China or maybe even on eBay. With current shipping rates in Canada there is NO WAY you can compete 1:1 with China - it costs at least 3x as much to mail it in Canada then China to Canada. So even with no profit and no wages we cannot compete. Let that sink in.
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@codysaunders7348 I am less Chinese then you are ;)
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@codysaunders7348 OK, whatever you say, but why 50 cent?
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@codysaunders7348 So how much is western propaganda worth? More or less?
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@chanfranc I have like 10 paragraphs above. Main points are 1) If Canada restricts students from China such students will go to the US - we already seen this with Australia and trade. 2) Meng case serves US interests at a cost of Canadian interests 3) World overall is less divided today into rich and poor then it ever was and the trend is accelerating - i.e. the difference between rich and poor countries is shrinking mostly due to technology & no longer dependence on limited resources.
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@chanfranc Given that I briefly served to defend this country I consider myself quite loyal. The treaty US has with Canada could have been easily sidelined and Meng simply could have not be let into the country. The treaty is not a demand it is request based as well - i.e. we can refuse to give back anyone we feel like - through that would set us up for retaliation. Two Canadians are in China on bogus charges same as Meng - both are "stuck" for years in a "hole". Both cases are politically motivated 100% as this is admitted by both China and US. Our PM has no reservation to dip into law if it serves political purpose as clearly illustrated by him. None of this has to do with CCP. I so far did not see any student coming in from mainland China to make CCP popular or something - maybe these exist but must be ultra rare & I finished U of T so I would notice. Most Chinese students are afraid of their own shadow, does not matter they were born her or in China. I fail to see how China is our enemy - we are more in this mess b/c our "friend" US is using us as a shield to punish China. With friends such as US, who needs enemies? Also it does not matter trail is open or close or whatever, what matters is whatever verdict is based on laws that feel fair to all involved or not - you should notice that many political dissidents in Soviet Union had open trails, did not exactly make them fair, even if their length got greatly extended.
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Well, may I remind you that our PM went to one of his ministers to "end investigation" - fired her when she refused and got a new minister that had no issues of ending investigation. In China no official would say no to Xi - there is a difference. Tiny.
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To expensive - we cannot afford to do that.
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@Ergot59 This is what Trump tried in US - which has far larger manufacturing base then Canada and was ... laughed at. Who is going to pay for all this? Educating 1m new factory workers? At what wage? Reverse economic growth? It would be easier to find a replacement for China, not just b/c China is "evil" but b/c they are getting way too rich to want to work in some sleezy factory. Chinese tire one cities look like blast from the future. Technology all over the place. Prices not so cheap - home in Beijing is far more expensive then in Vancouver (does explain things, does it?).
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I say we patch things up with China in secret and try to decrease our dependency on US. This way when uncle Sam says to jump we do not ask how high.
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LOL, what Canadian made products - we would simply get more stuff from US & some low quality stuff from Asia. Our economy would suffer and we would be all much poorer in addition to our world standing taking a dump. What effect would there be on China? It would gain a boost and its world standing would be not affected & could possibly increase.
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