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Fury aside, this also worked for Deontay Wilder. His opponents had a combined 222 losses.
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@Joey Salvete Thought terminating cliche. Just because someone isn't a coach or fighter does not make them wrong about fighting. If Ben Askren said Eric Butterbean was the greatest boxer of all time, is he right just because he's a pro fighter?
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@HomoErectus311 HAHAHAHAAHA!!!!! World class today means nothing as the standard in the HW division today is absymal. Lets look at the legion of "legends" Wilder defended against and actually look at all the statistics, not the ones you choose to ignore: Molina: A guy who has been knocked out 8 times Arreola: Had only won 2 of his past 6 fights when he fought Wilder Washington: Only took up boxing aged 24! Breazeale: Only took up boxing at aged 23! Stiverne: One of the weakest HW belt holders in history. Was also TKO'd by a novice in having his 8th pro fight Spizka: Was knocked out in 2 rounds by Derek Chisora!!! Ortiz: Was Ancient when he fought Wilder and frankly has never done anything of note as an amateur (dude never even qualified for the Olympics) or professional. Also Wilder should've only had 7 defenses, he lost the 1st Fury fight in most peoples opinions. He only had 10 because of corruption in boxing and being protected. His own manager in 2015 said Wilder was not ready to face Wlad and would not be fighting him. This was after Wilder beat the bum Stiverene for the title. Not ready...after 31 pro fights and in his 7th year as a pro. Even Wilder's own manager didn't think he could beat anyone good who was in shape. Wilder's record is a joke, and it's a joke too about most combat sports athletes having 5 losses. That's just not true in boxing as everyone is scared of losing so all the top ranked guys avoid tough fights most of the time. Wilder has a joke of a record, was protected AF and anyone claiming he fought good fighters is either a casual or trolling. He fought terrible fighters in an mediocre era of boxing and avoided the best of his era until Fury destroyed him. He was a protected paper champion and boxing history will never judge him kindly.
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I'd rather be trapped in a room with a feral badger than watch Askren vs Paul run it again.
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@HomoErectus311 Nonsense. Not a single Top 10 HW right now has anything like 5 losses or close to it. Stop conflating all combat sports to make your spurious argument. This isn't MMA. Pro boxing has a very different culture. Go to the Ring or Boxrec rankings and find me a single Top 10 HW with 5 losses. If Wilder is such a supreme athlete how come he can only manage a 350lb bench press (modest for a guy his size) and routinely gasses in title fights? He gassed twice vs Fury and twice vs Ortiz and gassed against Molina too. Stop romanticizing the guy and talk facts. He fought a bunch of guys with terrible credentials. Fact. He avoided the Klitschkos and Haye. Fact. He was given a hard time by a fighter who has been KO'd 8 times as a pro. Fact. He defended his belt against a guy who only won 2 of his last 6 fights. Fact. He fought terrible fighters to go to the Olympics and still had to get 2 count-back decisions to win 2 crucial fights. Fact. He beat a terrible fighter to win the bronze medal with a 39-34 amateur record. Fact. He was dropped by a guy with a 22% KO rate and 17 losses on his record as a pro. Fact. He defended against Arreola when he was ranked the 43rd best HW in the world at the time . Fact. He defended against Duphanas when he was ranked 34th best HW in the world at the time . Fact. He fought Washington when he was ranked the 41st best HW in the world at the time . Fact His fight just before facing Stiverne for the WBC belt, he faced a guy who was ranked 194th in the world at the time . Fact. Don't talk to me about knowing boxing when you don't seem to have any sort of clue about Wilder's actual record quality. If you want to continue to talk address the facts, not your own romantic bias of some guy you are beatifying.
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@HomoErectus311 Fury weighed more too than the first fight and didn't gas in either of the other fights. Do these magical "laws of physics" you claim not apply to Fury?? And you have failed to address any of the other criticisms of Wilder's record. You just ignore them and keep making strawman arguments. Tell you what, I'm an engineer and would love to hear what you think the physics are in relation to this. Please provide copious detail of the "laws of physics" that are in action here, and please include the mathematical notation for any equations because I'm genuinely fascinated to hear your take on the physics here professor.
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@HomoErectus311 Wilder far more fights than Fury though and has been more terrible opponents for a longer time. If he wasn't his average would've come down. Again you keep saying "physics" like it's some trump card that ends a discussion. You need to specify which laws of physics you are referring to and why if one fighter gains weight their stamina apparently degrades but when another fighter gains weight their stamina doesn't degrade. You can't claim it's simple physics when contrarian results are observed when the same method is applied. That's not how it works. Science doesn't apply to some people and not other people.
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@NothingElseMattersJM What utter nonsense again. 5th best is a nonsense claim, unless you meant HW. Vitali has a better KO % in title fight (76%) than Wilder. So how, as you contend, is Wilder the "Hardest hitter in combat sports history" When Vitali has the exact same number of KO's and a better KO % in title fights? You can't keep shifting the goal posts to suit your spurious arguments.
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@grevengriff8609 Yeah TBH there isn't really anyone in the UFC who's a good boxer, and even among UFC fighters, Ben was regarded as having pretty poor boxing skills. This was never going to be a boxing masterclass. Anyone who had any sort of confidence in Ben's boxing going into this was crazy.
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