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Comments by "iorekby" (@iorekby) on "RZA and Lex Fridman play chess" video.
@magnuscarlsen5271 Magnus Carlsen, the man who makes 6 or 7 figures a year from chess, does not agree chess is a waste of life ha ha.
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I think that comment is taken a bit out of context. Fischer was de-crying the innovations in computational chess that were emerging at that time, and that chess was becoming hateful because machines were slowly killing creativity in the game. It sounded like he hated what the thought chess was becoming.
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Lex is a smarter man than I'll ever be, but once again this flies in the face of the old cliche of "People who are great at math and engineering are automatically great chess players, and great chess players are automatically great at math" I've been involved with a chess club for a long time and have played against formidable players, with ELOs around 2000, who struggled with High school math. You can of course be great at both, but like I said it's a silly cliche rather than a sensible observation.
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@JamesOGant Are you kidding? Only about 10% of cards are worth using depending on the format. About 40% of the cards in any deck don't do much. The remaining cards have only a small amount of ways they can be played. You take a world class chess player, they will destroy an average player in a game of chess. You take a world class MTG player and give them a generic monocolored deck, and take some hobbyist player and give them a net deck and hobbyist player wipes out the world class player. What skill is there in that? I play both and I get MTG has a passionate fan base, but let's not lose the run of ourselves and pretend MTG has anywhere close to the complexity of chess. I played MTGA as a hobbyist and got to the 93rd percentile. I play Lichess and best I've done is the 47th percentile.
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@JamesOGant While I do hear what you are saying, you are offering up anecdote too, just to be clear. Any true MTG AI would not "cheat" by "hacking" a deck. It would analyse the data set (the legal cards allowed in the format) and run a test/train split to determine the optimal deck and play strategy. That's not cheating. That's part of the game and in theory a good AI could do this pretty well. Simply handing an AI a mediocre deck and expecting it to win is not a valid test of the game. It's like me removing all the pieces of the chess board for an AI bar the king, and then me beating the AI. That would obviously not be a valid test. I'm not sure what you mean when you say people have built computers using MTG. Do you mean a Turing device or an actual computer?
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@Lex Fridman Please Please try and get Josh Waitzkin on. I'd love to hear you talk to such a high-level chess player and a BJJ black belt, and the areas of overlap between the 2, and just Josh's approach to teaching in general.
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