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Comments by "iorekby" (@iorekby) on "Joe Rogan and Jocko Willink: BJJ, Striking, and Street Defense" video.
You don't have to be anything though. Awareness, avoidance, de-esclation, good flight skills, and not being an a$$hat will keep you out of trouble almost always. You all realise 99.99999% of the population in the Western world goes through their entire life without being in a "street fight", right? To quote Marc MacYoung: "If you've gotten yourself in to a street fight, you've got to be somewhat of an a$$hole".
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@stevenkettering6493 Thats Gracie propaganda though. That's not based on any accurate information. It's a myth repeated ad nauseam by the BJJ community. I used to be part of that community so I'll break it down for you: Rorion Gracie is a very smart man. He has a law degree. When he came over to the US, he needed to market his families system. One way he did this was to jump on some research done by Law Enforcement Officers that suggested a lot of arrest situations (or fights as Rorion conveniently called them) ended up on the ground. Back in the 80's and early 90's, the only people recording actual altercations where Law Enforcement. This was not civilians fighting for their lives as that footage was incredibly rare at this time. Now, lets think about this for a second....What do LEO's have to do in an arrest situation? They have to ground a resisting suspect so they cannot flee. There's a world of difference between an LEO in an arrest situation and a civilian who does not have to apprehend a subject So, Rorion spins this like it's some hard fact, that all fights will end up on the ground because guess what, that's what his family mainly teaches you. The BJJ community buy this line, even though Rorion has completely misrepresented the data for marketing purposes. Always be wary of the data someone is providing you when they are trying to sell you something. I like BJJ, I did it for many years. But the whole 90% thing is a misrepresentation, and of course it will seem true to BJJ practitioners when all they do is... take fights to the ground.
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There's also something people need to consider is that certain crime is getting very rare now. For example, we're starting to see digital theft overtaking physical theft in a big way. This means you are seeing less and less people getting their purses snatched or wallets stolen. It still happens, but the rate is decreasing as criminal gangs can get more money for less risk online. All this means that the already low chance of people getting mugged is decreasing further in most 1st world countries. And Gen Z are also drinking less than previous generations (there's research on this) by up to 25%, so in the next generation there's also going to be less drunks about. The risk is reducing of physical attacks in many countries, so you have to be honest and ask is the supposed danger you are in based on anxiety/insecurity, or is it a realistic threat? Imagine doing MMA/Krav Maga for 20 years only to never get close to having a fight in your entire life. Would you consider that a waste of time and money? Some people might, some people might not. But judge your risk sensibly.
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ricky gore No I wouldn't have. I don't have the mentality or emotional maturity of a 15 year old, I'm not going to get in to a street fight. Like most adults in the world. And I don't care if I've insulted "millions of people" who act like morons.
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@PrinceIsot Like what? Someone calling you names? Someone making an annoying joke? Someone posturing? None of that is justification for getting violent with someone. 99% of all conflict involves ego. It;s almost always dudes, and they get in to a verbal argument and then it escalates because they both let it escalate. It's usually over incredibly dumb stuff too. Like has been said, streetfights are consenual anti social violence between two or more people who have an unspoken agreement to get violent when it wasn't at all necessary, usually because they are drunk/high/bad impulse control/insecure/idiotic.
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@PrinceIsot I worked in a bar for 4 years (bar tender, not as security) back in my university days. I must've seen 100+ fights and violent altercations up close. All parties involved were part of the A-hole club. Without exception. Perhaps though you could give an example of a situation, where a street or bar fight happened, where someone was "being nice" or not an A-hole, and still somehow managed to end up slugging it out with someone. I'm not saying thats impossible, but in my lived experience it's so rare as to be neglible.
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