Comments by "iorekby" (@iorekby) on "Does Running Really Ruin Your Knees?" video.

That made me lol but it does raise another point: running is often the exercise of choice for badly out of shape people who want to "get fit". These are people who overdo it at New Years, realise they are 30kg overweight and decide January 1st "I'm going to do a marathon and change my life". Sounds very inspirational but you're going from 0 to 100 in a very short space of time. Trying to correct 10 or 20 years of KFC every night and partying too much in 6 months is going to really stress your body. Anecdotally, those are the types of people I notice who have heart attacks at races, or wreck their knees etc...
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And I've only ever heard runners pretend that running will never do anything harmful to anyone's body.
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"Brah, here's the thing brah, I've been a PT for over 4 years brah, and I've gotten people super jacked brah. I never finished High School brah and university degrees are for loser's brah. I did get a certificate in getting jacked over a 3 day course from the MeathHead BroScientist Institute though...." A future Joe Rogan guest, who's advice a million dudes on the internet will follow.
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Bingo! Everyone thinks they know how to run. I went to a running club and then spent the next 3 months realising I had terrible running technique. Running badly (or doing any exercise badly) will invariably cause problems.
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Vicodyn Bingo. This idea of "everything is bad for you" isn't really accurate. I walk 90 minutes a day, which helps keep me in shape and has had zero negative impact on my joints. Nothing. Been doing it for years. This whole idea of doing super intense exercise is probably more to do with people trying to be lazy (in a way): "I want to get exercise out of the way as fast as possible, so I will do an intense amount of it for 30-40 minutes, regardless if that excessive strain is damaging my body". And before people get defensive, I use to volunteer in a hospice. You know who isn't glad they messed up their knees, destroyed their mobility, gave themselves type 2 diabetes because they ate too much crap or whatever else they did to excess? Everyone. Literally everyone I've ever met who had to endure years of pain and discomfort in later life because of poor life choices they made in their youth.
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@TK-ju5hv Wow, how enlightened. Do you think animals run for hours at a time? No. They walk and sometimes run. Obviously there's a time to do both. For example, this is one such study which casts doubt on whether we were "made to run" https://archive.unews.utah.edu/news_releases/the-cost-of-being-on-your-toes/ No one knows yet whether we were built for running or walking for long periods of time. That's all I'm saying. It's pretty arrogant, and frankly nonacademic to simply assert your opinion as fact. Quod grātīs asseritur, grātīs negātur.
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This is misinformed. There's still a lot of debate academically around whether we were built for running long distances vs walking long distances, for a start. Secondly, it's been estimated by academics that the max life expectancy of our hunter-gather ancestors was 37 years old. Obviously, most of us today are living far, far longer than that. You cannot cite our ancestors to show running is benign when many people today are running over a far greater period of time.
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This is a great point. "Runners" I know tend to be running addicts who often train excessively IMO. And before people get defensive, here is what I mean by excessively: 1) One runner I know heard something pop in his ankle and it hurt. He still continued to run another 2 miles instead of heading back home (he was far closer to his house) 2) Another example is a runner who stopped after 8 miles and urinated blood. Continued to run another 7 miles rather than getting an Uber home. 3) Another runner, during the worst snow storm in our lifetime, tried to run through snow that was 3 feet high and a couple of inches of ice on the roads. Proceeded to slip and damage her elbow. Got up and ran for another hour until giving up and asking her BF to come pick her up. Ignoring clear signs your body is under distress is really dumb, and it's something runners seem to do all too often.
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Very good points but just on the research thing there's still some debate about whether we evolved to run vs walk for long distances to track prey.
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@thebloodyenglish6620 No appreciate a thoughtful perspective and that was my takeaway too: That it's not saying we definitely didn't evolve to run, just that it might not be the case. And one swallow does not a summer make. Even if this paper somehow suggested we evolved to walk definitively, there'd be more research needed to corroborate this. I appreciate all that.
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The other thing to bear in mind here is running is often the exercise of choice for badly out of shape people who want to "get fit". These are people who overdo it at New Years, realise they are 30kg overweight and decide January 1st "I'm going to do a marathon and change my life". Sounds very inspirational but you're going from 0 to 100 in a very short space of time. Trying to correct 10 or 20 years of KFC every night and partying too much in 6 months is going to really stress your body. Those are the types of people who have heart attacks at races, or wreck their knees etc...
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That's the big problem people have though. Moderation. Everyone does things in excess these days: Eats too much then tries to exercise too much to balance it all out.
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This. Most people just get out there and start running. Go to a running club if you can, get a qualified running coach to help you with your running. It will save you a ton of hassle (and probably money) in the future.
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Ouch! Hope you're feeling better bud.
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Being overweight and trying to run can sometimes ruin the knees too TBF, especially when people don't learn good running form.
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@robby2867 Very true. What I see is people being excessive all over their lives: They eat, drink or smoke excessively, play video games excessively, watch Netflix excessively... so they exercise excessively too to try and offset those other excesses lol!
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@stephen7690 How's it dumb?
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It can be "good" or "bad" depending on a lot of factors.
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