Comments by "iorekby" (@iorekby) on "Joe Rogan Reacts to Deontay Wilder KO'ing Dominic Breazeale" video.

  1. Props to Wilder but let's fact check a few things here: 1) Wilder had been boxing 3 years when he went to the Olympics, not 1.5 years. You can see on multiple sources Wilder started boxing shortly after turning 20, which was in 2005. He fought in the Beijing Games in 2008. 2) He barely qualified for the Olympics. First, he was in the Pan Am qualifiers. At that time, the best 91kg fighters were European, none were in the Pan Ams. The Cubans didn't' have anyone decent in that division since Solis defected in 2006. Secondly, he only beat his Ecuadorian opponent on a *double count-back*. Under the old amateur system, that meant the bout was technically a draw, they had to count individual punches. They were still equal. It was basically a ref's decision at that time, which was little more than a coin flip. 3) He had an INSANELY kind draw in the Olympics. He beat just 2 boxers to win a bronze medal. The guys he was up against were not rated in the top 15 by the AIBA at the time. He fought a guy from Tunisia and a guy from Morocco, who once again, he drew with and it had to go to countback. 4) Russo was probably the only genuine world class amateur Wilder fought in his brief amateur career, and despite Russo only being 5'11.5 inches, he schooled Wilder. Wilder deserves huge respect for his accomplishments in such a short time as an amateur, but Joe is over-egging the pudding by claiming he beat this amazing amateurs in 1.5 years. That's not correct. It was 3 years, and by and large Wilder fought some experienced but very ordinary fighters to win his bronze medal. He also struggled to beat 2 of the opponents on the path to that medal, and if the coin flipped the other way he could've easily have not gotten a medal.
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  2. Oh for fuck sake... let me get out the glove puppets and explain this to you casuals, okay? A boxer is not counted as being "up" while he/she is in the process of rising. That is to say, simply not being on the canvas does not mean the count stops. You must be fully upright, responsive and steady on your legs for the count to stop. Breazeale wasn't. Fight was stopped. Correctly. From the NYSAC rules (which were used for the fight): Section 211.50. When a boxer is down A boxer is down if (a) any part of his or her body other than his or her feet is on the ring floor, (b) the boxer is being held up by the ring ropes, or (c) the boxer is rising from a down position. https://www.dos.ny.gov/athletic/pdfs/rule%20text%20%20final.pdf It's calling reading, you bunch of fucking morons. Try it sometime. Otherwise fuck off and let actual boxing fans talk about the fights because you're clearly clueless, and only tune in fights once every 10 years.
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