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Comments by "iorekby" (@iorekby) on "Radio Rahim: Sparring, Not Fighting, Destroy Fighters" video.
The Cubans have done something called toque sparring. Basically it's touch sparring. They move at full speed but don't put any extra weight in their shots. They don't do it all the time, but the idea is you develop things like distance, timing, speed etc... without taking as much damage. We found out about it in Ireland because one of the Irish senior national coaches was from Cuba and he introduced it here a while ago in the amateur system.
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The Cubans have done something called toque sparring in boxing for a long time. More gyms should do this. Basically it's touch sparring. They move at full speed but don't put any extra weight in their shots. They don't do it all the time, but the idea is you develop things like distance, timing, speed etc... without taking as much damage. We found out about in in Ireland because one of the Irish senior national coaches was from Cuba and he introduced it here a while ago in the amateur system. Lara gives a good example of what it looks like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjTfvqQqmto Some of our best amateurs still used this idea when they turned pro (like Wayne McCullough). This is Wayne speaking in 2017, 10 years after he retired. And he had some wars in the ring back in the day (like Erik Morales). Still clear as a bell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUjOctabGus
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The Cubans have done something called toque sparring in boxing for a long time. Basically it's touch sparring. They move at full speed but don't put any extra weight in their shots. They don't do it all the time, but the idea is you develop things like distance, timing, speed etc... without taking as much damage. We found out about in in Ireland because one of the Irish senior national coaches was from Cuba and he introduced it here a while ago in the amateur system. Some of our best amateurs still used this idea when they turned pro (like Wayne McCullough). This is Wayne speaking in 2017, 10 years after he retired. And he had some wars in the ring back in the day (like Erik Morales). Still clear as a bell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUjOctabGus
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@cameronforbes2649 Cool story bro.
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The Cubans have done something called toque sparring in boxing for a long time. Basically it's touch sparring. They move at full speed but don't put any extra weight in their shots. They don't do it all the time, but the idea is you develop things like distance, timing, speed etc... without taking as much damage. We found out about in in Ireland because one of the Irish senior national coaches was from Cuba and he introduced it here a while ago in the amateur system. Lara gives a good example of what it looks like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjTfvqQqmto Some of our best amateurs still used this idea when they turned pro (like Wayne McCullough). This is Wayne speaking in 2017, 10 years after he retired. And he had some wars in the ring back in the day (like Erik Morales). Still clear as a bell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUjOctabGus
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The Cubans have done something called toque sparring in boxing for a long time. Basically it's touch sparring. They move at full speed but don't put any extra weight in their shots. They don't do it all the time, but the idea is you develop things like distance, timing, speed etc... without taking as much damage. We found out about in in Ireland because one of the Irish senior national coaches was from Cuba and he introduced it here a while ago in the amateur system. This sort of sparring is sort of like a boxing equivalent of flow rolling in BJJ. Improves your technique/fitness/movement/boxing brain while reducing the damage you take. It's why Cuban boxers can have 200-300 amateur fights and not be total wrecks. You can see Lara using that sort of sparring here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjTfvqQqmto
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@twodogs5395 Lara was trained in the Cuban sytem and gives a good example of what I refer to here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjTfvqQqmto Notice no big shots, just lighter shots and lots of movement.
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The Cubans have done something called toque sparring in boxing for a long time. Basically it's touch sparring. They move at full speed but don't put any extra weight in their shots. They don't do it all the time, but the idea is you develop things like distance, timing, speed etc... without taking as much damage. We found out about in in Ireland because one of the Irish senior national coaches was from Cuba and he introduced it here a while ago in the amateur system. Some of our best amateurs still used this idea when they turned pro (like Wayne McCullough). This is Wayne speaking in 2017, 10 years after he retired. And he had some wars in the ring back in the day (like Erik Morales). Still clear as a bell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUjOctabGus
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That's a very BJJ centric view I heard far too much of from the BJJ community: Essentially it espouses this idea that, somehow, you can limit or almost eliminate stand up sparring if you just get really really good at BJJ/grappling. Sounds great, but if you want to do MMA it doesn't work that way. Roger Gracie was the GOAT in BJJ and he lost fights because his striking defence wasn't good enough. You cannot compensate for lack of boxing/MT sparring in MMA just by becoming an exceptional grappler. Buchecha dropped his interest in MMA because he couldn't handle the striking sparring. He was too easy to hit and decided it wasn't for him. TL;DR BJJ is great, but some in the BJJ community can get a really warped perspective on it's capabilities in MMA.
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@severusfloki5778 The Cubans have done something called toque sparring in boxing for a long time. Basically it's touch sparring. They move at full speed but don't put any extra weight in their shots. They don't do it all the time, but the idea is you develop things like distance, timing, speed etc... without taking as much damage. We found out about in in Ireland because one of the Irish senior national coaches was from Cuba and he introduced it here a while ago in the amateur system. Lara gives a good example of what it looks like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjTfvqQqmto Some of our best amateurs still used this idea when they turned pro (like Wayne McCullough). This is Wayne speaking in 2017, 10 years after he retired. And he had some wars in the ring back in the day (like Erik Morales). Still clear as a bell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUjOctabGus
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@widebigtasty9969 That's an Irish thing though. The Cubans have done something called toque sparring in boxing for a long time. Basically it's touch sparring. They move at full speed but don't put any extra weight in their shots. They don't do it all the time, but the idea is you develop things like distance, timing, speed etc... without taking as much damage. We found out about in in Ireland because one of the Irish senior national coaches was from Cuba and he introduced it here a while ago in the amateur system. Lara gives a good example of what it looks like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjTfvqQqmto Some of our best amateurs still used this idea when they turned pro (like Wayne McCullough). This is Wayne speaking in 2017, 10 years after he retired. And he had some wars in the ring back in the day (like Erik Morales). Still clear as a bell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUjOctabGus
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@lgbtaiproud4704 Totally agree with this. Roger Gracie was the GOAT in BJJ and got badly knocked out in MMA. As did Rolles Gracie. The OP showed exactyl the sort of warped thinking that exisits in the BJJ community: 1) I do BJJ and my BJJ coach told me something 2) I beleived it cause...BJJ 3) I espouse not really doing striking that much for MMA because if you just get really really good BJJ you will be fine Anyone who has ever done BJJ, then tried to do MMA or striking knows that while BJJ is good, there's not a hope in hell it will realistically stop even an amateur MMA fighter from hitting you. A lot. The only way to get good at striking is by learning those skills. That means a certain amount of striking sparring. No amount of BJJ will compensate for that if you don't do it.
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gussstavo I have boxed or coached boxing for 16 years. it was my 1st love but I took a break for about 6 years to do MMA and then some BJJ. I totally agree. BJJ is a martial art for people who want to feel like they are learning to fight without actually learning to fight lol. Most pure BJJ guys at my old gym would try 1-2 MMA sessions then quit because they didn't like getting hit so easily. No single martial art can make people overconfident like BJJ can.
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@grawakendream8980 No, my opinon is you have shifted the goal posts each time (pros are better than ams, then Cubans didn't make it as top level pros, to then not being "elite" which seems to mean unbeaten ATG to you) rather than simply say your original premise was either a) uninformed or b) badly explained. Sometimes an opinon's just wrong. There's no point in being PC about it.
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No need. The Cubans have done something called toque sparring in boxing for a long time. Basically it's touch sparring. They move at full speed but don't put any extra weight in their shots. They don't do it all the time, but the idea is you develop things like distance, timing, speed etc... without taking as much damage. We found out about in in Ireland because one of the Irish senior national coaches was from Cuba and he introduced it here a while ago in the amateur system. Some of our best amateurs still used this idea when they turned pro (like Wayne McCullough). This is Wayne speaking in 2017, 10 years after he retired. And he had some wars in the ring back in the day (like Erik Morales). Still clear as a bell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUjOctabGus
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May not be accurate to say there is no fix. HBOT has shown promise in academic research (but more research is needed) in this area. Anecdotally Joe Namath has used it and said it's really helped him.
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TILL THIS COSTUME
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@TheNitroPython You get concussions too. Seen lots of those in Judo over the years. Do we really need to show people clips of people getting violently knocked out in MMA with power bombs?
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No, it was to do with the fact he owed a ton of money in back taxes. https://www.foxsports.com/boxing/story/roy-jones-jr-back-taxes-040711
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@grawakendream8980 Gomez, Lara, Rigondeaux, Hernandez, Casamayor, Ugas, Matias, Gonzalez... All world pro champions from Cuba. And that's just in the last 20 years. Most elite Cubans don't turn pro. Most that do end up being highly rated contenders or world champions.
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@grawakendream8980 WTH are you talking about? They were/are all literal world champions lmao!! How is that coming up short at the highest levels 😂 Many were ranked as No1 in their divisions at the time as well by every respected boxing publication I think you've spoken out of turn and maybe you made a mistake, which is fine, we're all human. But don't double down because you think you'll save face. The opposite is happening.
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@grawakendream8980 Dude give it up. How the hell is winning a legit world title, becoming No 1 in your divison not "elite". That would mean the only "elite" boxers are Marciano and Mayweather and Lopez Jr as they retired undefeated. You goofed, you made a mistake. Just let it go and learn from it.
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The Cubans have done something called toque sparring in boxing for a long time. Basically it's touch sparring. They move at full speed but don't put any extra weight in their shots. They don't do it all the time, but the idea is you develop things like distance, timing, speed etc... without taking as much damage. We found out about in in Ireland because one of the Irish senior national coaches was from Cuba and he introduced it here a while ago in the amateur system. Lara gives a good example of what it looks like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjTfvqQqmto Some of our best amateurs still used this idea when they turned pro (like Wayne McCullough). This is Wayne speaking in 2017, 10 years after he retired. And he had some wars in the ring back in the day (like Erik Morales). Still clear as a bell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUjOctabGus
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