Comments by "Christian Baune" (@programaths) on "Jordan B Peterson" channel.

  1. You'll not like the answer: Mensa 😂 I have watched very passively people discussing about the origin of a coin and the meaning of the figure. The three people did a grand tour of history, art and even geography. I didn't even had something to say, it was just interesting to see those people mentally wandering around a coin and deploying so much knowledge for something of so little impact in their daily life. But it was their satisfaction to try to find explanations. I brought a friend once and he was disgusted after few minutes, because people presented themselves through their pedigree. Most having multiple degrees and written one or two books and he felt diminished as he failed his studies. So, we left the group quickly at his request and he told me they were full of themselves. He didn't read it right and most people would not as it's unusual. But when you're about to discuss something, it's good to understand what are each people specialty before getting started. So, this is done to make things easier to everyone and not for bragging rights. But his mind was set, so we were not able to go back to the group and we left the gathering. When I was younger, I met people in dancing club where we tried to avoid the music to speak. Weird how you can stumble on people like that. When I was tacking the train for long distance, I also met older people having a lot to say on today society and who thanked me for the discussion. I deplore that people fear to speak to others, because I had eye opening discussions while waiting for the tram or bus. Also, I am that weird guy who like to explain math at parties 🤣
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  2.  @Kay-tc3go  If you're toe stepping to avoid any kind of offense and thus, confrontation, it's almost an echo chamber that you get. We are not entirely rational beings and there are some ideas that quickly evoke strong emotions which in turn induce primitive behaviors. Where it shines, it's when people can muster the courage to can their emotions and have a civilized debate. Next step being able to evoke those emotions.
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  3.  @BreakingJP83  Don't worry, your reply was on point. You gave a reasonable cause. It's what we call IP (Intra punitive). My answer was a mixture of IP' and EP (IP'=false intra punitive where the subject seems to blame himself, but justify it by EP). Though, I did really try to get through to no avail. So, your IP answer was the right one, it allowed me to confort my own answer. Also, the transaction is Neutral as your answer is basically "let's dismiss it". So, that what I would call a text book example of good communication, even if it didn't produce something positive, it didn't generate something negative. If you look this whole thread, it's overly negative. A lot of E and E' answers! But that's the Internet way (funnily, that's an E too). What you want is N type, but it's not always feasible. and E+I doesn't yield N ^^ So, do not worry, at least, objectively, that was a neutral transaction. And within this thread, it is just "noise".
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  4.  @BreakingJP83  I need to interpret what you wrote because of ambiguous statements. So, I can't answer properly to you.
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  5.  @gregbowman4043  I'll erase the parts from the OP for which my answer is irrelevant: This was wonderful. It is like a couple of smart guys meeting at a party, finding a corner and having a really good conversation. Remember going to parties and being able to sit and talk about anything and everything? Remember meeting new people and being genuinely interested in what they had to say? Hope it helps you to have a better idea.
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  6.  @MandrakeDCR  relevant, it's where I saw it happen many times. The most impressive one was on that coin because people were each vested in a very different approach. And discussion on a seemingly simple topic often leads to very interesting talks. That's the main occupation at gatherings. It seems you understood I implied mensa was some kind of requirement for it to happen. I didn't imply that. I noted that this is where I was impressed by the exchange about a simple coin. I had many smart discussions in many places. Not long enough, I was sitting at a bar with a friend and discussing the oddities of colors. How you can light a scene with what seem to be the two exact "amber" and yet, see a different response from objects. (hence why gels are still used instead of multi-color RGB lighting) We also spoke about phase shifting and how it has to be accounted for star sightings. So, from "how to take a picture" to "why spectrometry can't be used as is to analyze stars". But nothing like the coin where the 3 of them were circling it. Crystallized intelligence helps to gather knowledge (or it shows one is a sponge) and fluid intelligence is a good help to manipulate that knowledge sensibly. Maybe it's time to stop stigmatizing some minorities that are not much advertised?
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  7.  Anya Wale  Positive discrimination is the most divisive and racist thing. I have professional experience in dealing with it. I had a black guy who flunked the technical part of an interview for internship. He had a broken English, which made it quite hard for him to read documentation (written in English, because that's how it is in IT). But (yes, always a but), when I give technical tests, I don't really care that you know all technicalities. It's an excuse to discuss with the candidate and see how smart he is. It's illegal to IQ test candidate in my country, but totally legal to have them solve small puzzles or think aloud about a problem. There the guy showed a great mind, lot of potential. Even his traduction did show that from they few he understood, he tried to make something that had some sense. This by itself is a difficult task. So, I said the interview was done and that I don't need to see other candidates as he is hired, just have to accept. His reply was: "Are you taking me because I am black?". It wasn't a joke, it was a concern. He thought he was a tokenised. I had to explain he did show potential and it's an internship where he will LEARN, so it was ok to flunk technicalities, now he had 4 months to improve and show off in his memoir (paper he has to write for the end of the year). As expected, he did a great job with proper guidance and learned a lot. So, a win for everyone. I also had a girl who was happy to be selected, until I told her that the fact that she was the only girl didn't ensure her a seat and that, in fact, she had to improve a lot before being hireable. So, yes, positive discrimination is everything but positive. That girl sit on her ass, knowing she will be hired for being a girl... And she's right, she probably got a job on that basis. This deserve minorities a lot, because a lot of minorities end up being tokenized and people who don't even know about that end up observing that "Ouch, those people sucks" while in reality, no, it's just that there is a represntation bias. While in the population, minorities are the minority, at work, they end up equally represented. So, companies have to also accept the worse. And when out of 3 people only 1 do good and the two positive discrimination hires (tokens) do shit you've to cleanup, ressentiment is real. Also from minorities who simply got hired on "Ok, that guy is fantastic AND a minority. It's Christmas!". And those perfectly know they got hired on competence and positive hires are also quickly shown they were positive hires where they are given easier tasks and pampered to avoid too much arm to the company.
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  8. Infinite but bounded: - A segment has an infinite number of points - Between any two distinct reals, there is an infinite amount of reals (stem from "between any two distinct real there is another one") - Koch, Sierpinski, space filling curves finite but unbounded: - You walking on Earth - An ant on a doughnut Was it that hard ? :-D
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  9. 1:44 Sad news for Object Oriented Programming
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