Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "Tucker Carlson And Jimmy Dore Lie For 4 Straight Minutes About AOC" video.

He proved he was objectively delusional to think a Trump presidency would be better for progressives ... that it would lead to a progressive wave which would "for sure" take the house and senate in 2018, and the presidency in 2020 ... that Republicans would join with the left to obstruct a Trump agenda ... that Trump filling multiple scotus seats was as likely as the moon falling into Lake Michigan. He proved he was operating outside of reality when he claimed Stein, who was only on the ballot in like 10 states, had a shot. AOC just got done campaigning for Bernie and backed 20 other progressives, helping to remove a few more corporate Dems and add a few more M4A yes votes to congress. To make out like that's a worse ally than ancap Boogaloos is actually insane. Getting a guaranteed to fail vote on M4A was supposedly supposed to be useful in pressuring or replacing those opposed. Progressives get the $15 to stay in for a round of voting, and suddenly that's not useful in going after those opposed, but instead useful in continuing to shit on progressives. There's gaslighting, and then there's actually being delusional. Sam was right on the mark, predicting the reality of multiple scotus seats being filled. So, obviously Jimmy was gaslighting. Jimmy has been proven to be delusional, and is therefore actually delusional.
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So, you've learned how to use the term "gaslighting" incorrectly, from Dore? "Gaslighting" is a specific form of manipulation and deception designed to make someone feel, or look, crazy. "Gaslighting" is more like claiming Trump filling multiple scotus seats is as likely as the moon falling into Lake Michigan, making out like whoever says otherwise is batshit crazy.
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@fomori2 It should be titled "Who's dumber, Trumpists or Dore knobs?" AOC was just campaigning for Nina, trying to add another M4A yes vote to congress. Dore, on the other hand, abandoned Nina ... abandoned trying to add another M4A yes vote to congress. Which one do you morons think is the "real" progressive?
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@fomori2 You might want to educate yourself on what an ad hominem actually is, you ignoramus. Also educate yourself on Aldous' grandfather.
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He has. Jimmy got creamed. Still waiting for the moon to fall into Lake Michigan.
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@sergeikhripun Idiot. It was Republicans Jimmy predicted were less corrupt than they are, claiming that they'd join Democrats in voting against the Trump agenda, and wouldn't follow him into overt fascism.
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@brianblair6067 Rofl. What a load of crap. You're the type of idiot who winds up on the wrong end of the Night of the Long Knives (assuming you're not one of Dore's right wing fans).
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Slandering people can invite violence. Like when Trump made out like Georgia Reps were sellouts, and they started getting death threats.
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@justinshin2279 What kind of dimwitted take is that? AOC got a ton of donations, and won her election, all while not playing ball. She backed 20 other progressives with her platform and PAC. Some of those who voted against her for that committee seat publicly stated they voted against her because she backed primary candidates against them. She's fighting them and they stab her in the front, then you Dore knobs come along and stab her in the back for supposedly not fighting them. You're a pack of morons.
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@andyc.9751 You Dore knobs don't grasp basic math, so don't actually grasp leverage. There are zero extra votes to be gained to the left of the party. Therefore, it is absolutely, 100%, impossible to pass a bill, if you lose Manchin's vote. On the other end, there is the entire Republican party to try and gain extra votes from, if you lose squad votes. By moving a bill to the right, and picking up enough Republican votes, squad votes aren't needed. You're either a liar, or a dimwit. AOC was just campaigning for Nina, trying to add another M4A yes vote to congress, because getting enough yes votes is the only possible way to ever pass the bill. Dore, on the other hand, abandoned Nina, abandoned adding another M4A yes vote to congress. So, which is it, liar or dimwit?
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Exactly. You can't actually argue he wasn't living in some alternate reality, with his delusional predictions.
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Oh, wow, he predicted Pelosi would be Pelosi? Such insight. Who said Pelosi wouldn't be Pelosi? How is taking out a few more corporate Dems and adding a few more M4A yes votes to congress, in the election cycle that just passed, not fighting for M4A? It's exactly what needs doing to ever pass the bill, exactly what would still need doing even if there was a failed vote. If that doesn't count as fighting, then Dore's own "plan" was to have a failed vote and then not fight. Oh, wow, he predicted Biden would be Biden? Such insight. Who said Biden wouldn't be Biden? So, he has pointed out the obvious, and slandered those actually advancing M4A, even if it's not happening as fast as you fantasize it happening. Such talent.
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You weren't under the delusion that it was going to pass, were you?
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@inevitablechange2670 Rofl. Events have proven that Jimmy got destroyed, last time. He's operating in some fantasy world, where he vastly overestimates benefits of certain, and vastly underestimates the risks.
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@MrDude667 Pakman, TYT, and others were just promoting Nina, encouraging people to vote for her and her progressive platform. They were trying to help add another M4A yes vote to congress. Dore and wife, on the other hand, let everyone know they had stopped donating to Nina, promoted never supporting any Democrat or Republican ever again, and abandoned adding another M4A yes vote to congress. You're listening to a grifter, who claims he's so far left, but then does things that benefits the far right most.
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How is helping to add more M4A yes votes to congress, the only way to ever possibly pass the bill, not delivering? That gets you closer to actually getting M4A than a 100% guaranteed to fail performance art vote does.
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AOC "cozied up" by helping to replace a few more corporate Dems in the last election, and has just been "cozying up" on the ground trying to get Nina elected over a corporate Dem.
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@bradleyjohnson6107 Pretty sure the corporate Dems were the ones putting everything they had into beating Nina, Dore knob.
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Yeah, helping to add more M4A yes votes to congress, the only way to ever pass the bill, is such a disappointment.
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@WanderingIdiot81 Kyrsten Sinema was a fantasy perfectly perfect incorruptible third party candidate once. What's your point?
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@WanderingIdiot81 Helping to increase the number of M4A yes votes in congress is action. It's exactly the kind of action that would still need doing even if there was a 100% guaranteed to fail performance art vote. Pretending it's inaction is dishonest. The $15 got a vote, actually passed the house (M4A didn't have a chance in hell), that Pelosi and the squad are members of, and also got a senate vote. Suddenly, just getting a vote on an important progressive policy, and getting a list of no voters, is completely useless ... just keep bitching about, and slandering, those who voted for it. FTVers have proven FTV was a sham, and that they're pathetic useless hypocrites. The capitol police don't actually patrol the streets enforcing the law. It's more of a security guard and bodyguard force. Pretending they're totally equivalent to a standard police force is dishonest. Piss off with the Israel bullshit. The squad have repeatedly voted against individual bills to send money to Israel, have introduced bills to put conditions on aid to Israel, have introduced bills against anti-BDS laws. They split votes on an annual foreign aid bill, of which Israel was a small percentage. It wasn't a straight up, Israel only, bill. The bill also included aid to Palestinians, as well as almost $60b in aid elsewhere.
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@WanderingIdiot81 Man, you're dishonest. AOC used her platform and PAC to back 20 other pro-M4A progressives. She has always been friends with, and supported, Cori. The issue with that primary was politics, and the fact that Clay had signed onto the Green New Deal, so she didn't give her official endorsement and donation to Cori until the general. I get that Dore knobs don't care about burning bridges, but if Clay had won, AOC would still want that GND vote. In what reality do you think Manchin, and the other dipshit senators, would change their minds? If the senate and house disagree, then the bill goes to house-senate negotiation. Manchin could have offered concessions, and lowered the minimum to $10 (as some Republicans had proposed), to pick up enough Republican votes to ignore the squad. Where can the squad get extra votes from, if they lose Manchin's vote? There is the entire Republican party for Manchin to try and draw extra votes from, to the right of the party. There are zero extra votes to the left of the party. They don't have anywhere close to the same amount of power and leverage. Because corporate Dems outright running against M4A isn't enough? Them not signing onto the bill isn't enough? Again, FTVers proved they're pathetic useless hypocrites. They've already shown that they don't actually value getting a vote and getting a list of no voters. FTV was a complete sham. Progressives got the $15 to stay in for a round of voting. Not sure what other squad members asked for, but Pelosi did give AOC a shot at that committee seat she wanted. Those who voted, stabbed her in the front exactly because she had fought them and backed progressives against them in the primaries. Dore knobs then stab her in the back, falsely claiming she isn't fighting, even lying that she didn't back progressives in the primaries. She, and Bernie, were just backing Nina, campaigning for her, promoting M4A while they were at it, and trying to add another M4A yes vote to congress. Meanwhile, Dore abandoned Nina and abandoned adding another M4A yes vote to congress, and then slandered AOC and Bernie, claiming they were the ones who abandoned M4A. He's a dishonest grifter.
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@J77225 AOC and Bernie just finished campaigning for Nina, while promoting M4A, trying their best to add another M4A yes vote to congress. Dore abandoned Nina, and abandoned adding another M4A yes vote to congress. He promotes the third party route that hasn't won the most popular third party a single seat in congress in its near 50 year existence. At "best", you peel away enough progressive votes to hand the Dem party totally back to corporate Dems and let Republicans rule for decades to come. You're talking about Jimmy himself, as the bigger danger.
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@khazaddum6599 Progressives got the $15 to stay in for a round of voting. It actually passed the house (M4A didn't have a chance in hell) and also got a senate vote. Just getting a vote on an important progressive policy is a huge deal, right? Getting a list of no voters from both chambers is a huge deal, right? Nope. Not anymore. Pathetic useless hypocritical Dore knobs just keep bitching about those who got it to stay in for a round of voting and who voted for it. And you're fantasizing over how house-senate negotiations would go. Manchin didn't want to go over $11. Instead of negotiating with the squad, he'd approach Republicans, who have their own $10 minimum bills, and try to work out some kind of bipartisan agreement, just like he did with infrastructure. If he got enough Republicans on board, then you don't even need squad votes.
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Name one that campaigned on threatening to paralyze the house.
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@CrudeBeach *"slandering" Reading comprehension problems, dumb dumb?
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@amandamcgovern5744 Yeah, sure, just words slandering her as a traitor, or just a funny "joke" meme depicting killing her, right?
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Rofl. That was a long winded way of saying you're an ignoramus who didn't listen to what Sam said in the seconds after that time stamp.
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@Fritz Feuer Not being able to tell that Dore started using it to slander the most progressive members of congress, people who have done more for M4A in a few years than he has in his entire lifetime, is the problem. You know "notoriety" is a bad thing, right?
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