Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "What If ‘Force The Vote’ Actually Happened?" video.

@chestervirgil7968 Rofl. Some 20 people showed up in DC for the ftv rally. During the latest M4A rallies, AOC was campaigning for Nina, trying to add another M4A yes vote to congress. Dore, and his Dore knobs, abandoned her ... abandoned actually moving you one vote closer to ever passing the bill. The $15 got a vote, even passed the house (M4A didn't have a chance in hell) and got a senate vote. Didn't you pathetic good for nothings pretend like just getting a vote on an important progressive policy would be great, pretend like getting a list of no voters would be great ... and now, what? Weren't you supposed to do something amazing with the optics and the list? Yet, you lot just keep whining and slandering those who got it to stay in for a round of voting and who voted for it. Lol, you Dore knobs can't seem to make up your little minds. A bunch of you ridiculously try and make comparisons to women's suffrage, or civil rights, and yet you're here whining that a politician should be doing all the work for you. So, you're nothing like the women's suffrage or civil rights movements. Dore benefits the far right more than the left and, either that's why you like him, because you're one of his many right wing fans, or you're being grifted and are the kind of "lefty" that ends up on the wrong end of a Night of the Long Knives.
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@chestervirgil7968 The $15 passed the house in the covid relief bill, dimwit. It got an actual vote, and passed the house. It didn't pass the senate, then went back to the house for a second vote. It was after that, that Bernie tried to get it in reconciliation. If the house hadn't passed the senate bill that was sent back, do you even know what happens next? It goes to house-senate negotiation, where the squad can try and pull in zero extra votes by making concessions to the zero members of congress to the left of them, and Manchin can try and pull in extra votes by making concessions to the 50 senators and 212 house members to the right of the party. In a standoff, a bill will most likely move right, not left. That is all besides the point that Dore is a pathetic useless hypocrite, who did nothing with the optics of voting against raising the minimum during a pandemic and nothing with the list of no voters. He just keeps whining, bitching about, and slandering, those who voted for it. AOC endorsed Nina in March, you dishonest douchebag. She then campaigned for her in the final stretch. Meanwhile, Dore was slandering AOC, claiming she had abandoned M4A, while she was actively trying to add another M4A yes vote to congress. It was him who had publicly abandoned Nina and abandoned adding another M4A yes vote to congress. While he was stupidly wondering where AOC was on M4A march day, she was at Nina rallies. Oh my, Dore's comment section must have been in an uproar over Dore abandoning Nina and slandering AOC and Bernie, who was also campaigning with Nina. Was it? Did you all call him out as a lying grifter? Dore, and his knobs, benefit the far right. That's just a fact.
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@chestervirgil7968 Go learn some basic math, and how government actually works, Dore knob.
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@Evirthewarrior Getting a 100% guaranteed to fail performance art vote, isn't actually doing something that moves you closer to ever passing M4A. Using your platform and PAC to back 20 other pro-M4A progressives, helping to remove a few more corporate Dems, and helping to add a few more M4A yes votes to congress, actually does move you closer to ever being able to pass the bill. AOC was just trying to add another M4A yes vote to congress, in Nina Turner. Dore, on the other hand, abandoned Nina ... abandoned adding another M4A yes vote to congress. You're living outside reality, as to who is actually doing more to pass the bill. AOC has done more for M4A in 2 years than Dore has in his entire lifetime. Firstly, you Dore knobs don't seem to know that that wasn't the final vote on the bill, or the final version of the bill. Secondly, the Capitol police don't have a mandate to charge people for any and all crimes, outside Capitol grounds. Outside Capitol grounds, their only mandate is to protect members of congress. What is it you're afraid having a couple in the field, in California and Florida, investigating threats on congress members, is going to lead to?
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@Evirthewarrior Rofl. Do you think Nina is anti-M4A, dimwit?
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@Evirthewarrior If it was the establishment that wanted AOC and Bernie campaigning to try and get Nina Turner (who Dore abandoned) elected, then maybe the establishment isn't so bad. Pretty sure the establishment was supporting Nina's opponent though, which puts AOC and Bernie opposed to the establishment.
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@Evirthewarrior Learn some basic math. There are zero extra votes to be gained to the left of the party, should you start losing votes on the right end of the party. On the other end, there is the entire Republican party to try and draw votes from, should you start losing votes on the left end of the party. It is entirely impossible to pass a bill without Manchin. It is entirely possible to pass a bill without needing progressive votes, by moving a bill far enough right to bring on Republicans. It's magical thinking to believe a handful of progressive have some.massive power and leverage. A protest could just push a bill further right, rather than further left.
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@N2264J Hearings and major debate happen in committees, not on the floor. On the floor, everyone gets a little few minute speech, and then it's voted on. M4A was introduced and died in committees, where 90% of bills die, last session. Pelosi has already reintroduced M4A, and it is sitting in committees again. Committee members is who the pressure should be on to take up the bill. Also, momentum for other things happened for years, even decades, before they were ever voted on. It wasn't a failed performance art vote that created momentum. You have things backwards.
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