Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "Nina Turner On Force The Vote" video.

  1.  @seanking1775  "Holding accountable" doesn't equate to slander and bullshit.
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  2. Thinking there'd be some massive uprising over a guaranteed to fail vote is moronic and naive. It's a fantasy, just like Dore's fantasy that a Trump presidency would cause a massive progressive uprising, that would "for sure" take the house and senate in 2018, and the presidency in 2020. Thinking you need to go to all out war with the party, just to get a list of names to primary, is moronic. You get a new list of people who won't sign onto the M4A bills each new session. Pelosi even introduced M4A, just last session, where it died in committee. The speaker, alone, can't even force a bill through committees to the floor.
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  3.  Zoom Boom  You mean strategies like using that massive social media platform of hers, and her PAC, to help take out the chair of the foreign affairs committee, by backing Jamaal Bowman, and helping to add other pro-M4A progressives to congress, as well? Or using that platform to spotlight striking union workers? Or using it to raise money for Texans, putting their Republican representatives to shame? Only a complete moron, like Dore, would both think he's accomplishing things, think he's fighting, using his relatively small social media platform, while making out like using a much larger social media platform doesn't accomplish anything, and doesn't amount to fighting for anything. Bernie, AOC, and other progressives, have used their platforms to spread progressive ideas, have used them to make ideas like M4A and GND part of mainstream discussion, have used them to increase public support for said ideas ... oh no, make them stop! On top of that platform, that you're criticizing, being a valuable tool for the progressive cause, she is accomplishing more than any third party, just by having a seat in congress, that allows her to put forward bills, cast votes on bills, join committees, etc. The most popular third party hasn't even won a single seat in congress in its near 50 year existence.
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  4.  @sydberetta4649  You Dore knobs don't even know what "gaslighting" means.
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  5.  @glondokakurswongog3790  Rofl. What a load of crap. If Dore didn't think he was accomplishing anything, why the hell did he keep bragging about forcethevote trending? If he didn't consider what he was doing as fighting, then why was he doing it? You're making no sense. He didn't back Bernie in the last election cycle. He backed "Medicare choice" Tulsi. You're spouting bullshit. If he actually recognized that AOC helped add more M4A yes votes to congress, exactly what you need to do to ever pass the bill, exactly what you'd still need to do even after a guaranteed to fail vote, then he wouldn't make out like she wasn't doing anything. It reduces his own forcethevote "plan" to have a failed vote, and then do nothing. There was no crime. Pelosi introduced the M4A bill just last session. It died in committees. There was no progressive uprising over it, no mass protests, not even any outrage from Dore himself. It took a single reporter's question to get Biden on record saying he'd veto M4A. Plenty of corporate Dems and Republicans just said they were opposed to it, during their campaigns. Every new session, you get a new list of names of those who don't sign onto the bill. There's no need to threaten to paralyze the house, to get a list of Dems to primary, or Republicans to run against. You've already got a list of some 300+ names. Where were the 100+ viable pro-M4A candidates, that Jimmy has laying around, in the election that just took place? Why didn't he pull them out and run them?
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  6.  @campfiresong  Rofl, he and BGJ didn't talk about protests? Yes, yes they did. You're comment is ironic.
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  7.  @campfiresong  You're clearly full of shit. BJG wrote an article on FTV, in which she specifically stated she thought a failed vote could galvanize the left and lead to protests and strikes. When together, Jimmy has agreed with her talking points. Dore was also on Status Coup talking about FTV and direct action, like protests or a general strike.
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  8.  @campfiresong  Apparently I've seen more of his reasoning, than you. I don't think you've noticed that I haven't said that he didn't say to use it as a talking point to primary corporate Dems. So did BGJ, in the article I just mentioned. That's totally irrelevant to additional things he has, in fact, stated himself or agreed with when other people stated them. You, on the other hand, are denying he gave any other reasoning, and are making excuses for him agreeing with others who gave more reasoning. And, not only are you a complete bullshitter, but you're an idiot who didn't even grasp my original context. Even his wanting to use it as a talking point to run against corporate Dems, and that it will lead to getting M4A passed, implies he thinks a failed vote will make 100+ viable pro-M4A candidates rise up and run, and the millions, if not tens of millions, more progressive voters needed will rise up and vote for them.
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