Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "Bill Maher Fan Can’t Understand Why People Don’t Think ‘Real Time’ Is Funny" video.

  1. Harris is an idiot. I have no clue how he got a philosophy degree. He doesn't seem to have a firm grasp on basics, like objectivity vs subjectivity. Religions don't exist without people. Portraying a religion as a singular horrible thing is saying every one of its practitioners is practicing that singular horrible thing. It's a nonsense way to talk about religion, and the people practicing it. Harris has often sounded like an ISIS leader, describing a one true way to practice Islam, and saying those who don't aren't "real" Muslims. He, at least once, even admitted he was wrong to talk about Islam that way, but he sure as hell didn't draw attention to the fact that that admission meant that many of his former critics were right.
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  2. Freedom of religion is progressive. That opposes any of the ones who want to force their religious laws on others, while also saying they're free to practice their religion, which doesn't mean free to do anything that violates secular laws. Broad brushing, and demonizing, everyone of a particular religion isn't very progressive.
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  3.  @X7Excalibur  Did I say a theocracy was progressive? Do they have freedom of religion? No and no. The West carved up a more moderate Muslim empire, and handed bits of it to religious extremists. They've backed coups against more moderate, and more democratic, Muslim governments and politicians, who happened to also lean a bit to the left economically (nationalizing oil, voting against a pipeline, or whatnot). They backed religious extremists to take over Afghanistan. They've backed theocratic Saudi as it has spread its ultra-conservative brand of Islam around the world. Then they turn around and bitch and whine about Muslims being too extreme or conservative, and go blow up hundreds of thousands of them. It's insane. And, someone like Harris is an apologist for US interventions, and blames it all on the religion. He's an idiot. He has sounded like an ISIS leader, claiming there is a one true version of Islam, and those who don't follow that aren't "real" Muslims. Turkey is the last remnant of the Ottoman Empire, not Saudi. Homosexuality has always been legal in Turkey, because it was made legal in the Ottoman Empire, at a time when many Western nations still considered it illegal, or considered it a mental disorder. European women travelling in the Ottoman Empire had reported that they thought women there had more rights than in Europe. Today, women in Turkey protest against similar stuff as American women, when conservatives are in power. Of all the Abrahamic religions, Islam allowed for freedom of religion, first. They also used to be leaders in math and science. The west has helped many Muslim nations go backwards, rather than forwards. In some cases, helped them become worse than ever before. That's partly why there are Muslims who aren't "normal" 2021 people. And, no, that's not blaming the west for creating extremists, from scratch. But, if you install extremists, support extremists, support the spread of extremism, remove moderates, suppress moderates, etc., then you've helped create a more extremist environment.
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  4.  @X7Excalibur  Technically, Turkey is a secular state, like the US is technically a secular state. Doesn't stop religious conservatives from being elected in either. US Republicans would love a Christian Erdogan. Millions of them are still hoping for the democratic process to be overturned and for an unelected Dumpty to become ruler. Do they count as "normal" 2021 people?
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  5.  @dabblerdeluxe775  Rofl. Dore is not rational, in the least. He is funny to laugh at though.
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  6. Muslims believe in Jesus. It's Jews that don't. Also, Turkey is what's left of the last caliphate, not Saudi. Homosexuality has always been legal in Turkey, because that was the law of the Ottoman Empire. The west took that more moderate empire, carved it up into little bits, and handed parts of it to religious extremists. In numerous Muslim majority countries, there have also been more secular movements and political leaders. Problem was they also leaned a bit more left, economically, than countries like the US and UK preferred, and were overthrown. Meanwhile, countries like Saudi have been supported financially and militarily, as they've spread their more conservative brand of Islam around the world. Religious nuts in Afghanistan were supported with hundreds of millions of dollars, to overthrow more secular communist Muslims. It's kind of moronic for the west to complain about the current state of Muslim countries, when they had a hand in making them the way they are.
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