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Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "How Ralph Nader Broke His Promise To Sam" video.
Robert Hunt Rofl. Trump lost his home state twice. Trump has been divorced twice. What are you even talking about?
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@joethethunder4906 Imagine that everyone in the progressive caucus had run as the people's party, and magically won the exact same number of seats. What you'd have is a Republican minority house, that would only have to work with the 16 most conservative Dems, to pass anything, and could completely ignore the people's party. You'd have a Trump presidency (because Dem and progressive votes would have split between Biden and Bernie in the general). And, you'd have 1 people's party senator, Bernie, with Republicans in control of the senate and Pence as tie breaker. No, you're not going to win over significant numbers of right wingers. If they cared about things like M4A more than hate abortions and immigrants, they'd already be voting for progressives.
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@joethethunder4906 No. I clearly talked about an alternate reality, where some third party actually won seats, a lot of seats, 94 in the house and 1 in the senate. It would lead to Republican rule, and they could work with a handful of corporate Dems and completely ignore progressives. What are you talking about? Texas and Florida indicate Republicans are batshit crazy. Trump is batshit crazy.
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@joethethunder4906 Getting even 100 seats as a third party would allow for Republicans and corporate Dems to almost completely ignore a progressive third party. The broader progressive caucus is currently 10-15 seats away from becoming the majority of house Dems. They could then pick the party speaker candidate and set the party agenda. If the party were in the majority, that progressive speaker could pick committee members and introduce whatever bills they wanted. Getting 10-15 more seats taking over the Democrat party would give you more power than 100 seats as a third party.
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@joethethunder4906 The most popular third party hasn't won a single seat in congress in its near 50 year existence. And, as I pointed out, winning even 100 seats wouldn't give progressives any power as a third party. There's no indication what you're aiming for would benefit progressives in the next century. Progressives could be the majority of the Dem party within an election, or two, if progressives got out and voted heavily in the primaries.
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@mjchakos1 That's a far right Libertarian, not a "moderate", and they already have a third party.
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@joethethunder4906 As a third party? You're dreaming.
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Robert Hunt I didn't ask "who". Can't you read?
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