Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "Jimmy Dore Gets ANNIHILATED By Microbiologist" video.

@richardp6461 What conviction? He peddled Tulsi (public option) over Bernie (M4A), for almost a year, outright working against the M4A candidate. Then, he peddled his pointless 100% guaranteed to fail performance art vote, and slandered anyone who didn't support it as "fakes", "frauds", "sellouts", or whatnot. Surely, outright working against M4A is worse than simply not supporting some pointless secondary tactic. Then, after making out like that was enough to write off other progressives, who agree with you on policy 99%, as allies, he promotes an "extreme free market" ancapper, who disagrees with you on most everything, including M4A, as a potential ally. Then, he abandoned Nina Turner, one of M4A's most ardent supporters ... abandoned adding another M4A yes vote to congress. The guy flips and flops all over the place, on a regular basis. He takes whatever contrarian position he thinks will sell best, at the time.
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@thinkoutsidethelines8265 The most popular third party hasn't won a single seat in congress in its near 50 year existence. The most popular progressive third party hasn't won a single seat in congress in its 20 year existence. The third party route is the longest route to your destination, next to teaming up with looney far right extremists that want to start a civil war, and would start shooting leftists once you help them overthrow the government. The broader progressive caucus is about 30 years old and is about 15 seats away from becoming the majority of house Dems. Justice Dems have been at it for about 4 years and have helped replace about a dozen corporate Dems. AOC has been at it 2 years, and has helped replace a few more. It's clearly the better strategy, even if you think it needs better progressive candidates. It's not like going third party is guaranteed to produce perfectly perfect incorruptible puritan progressive candidates. The Green party produced Kyrsten Sinema, ffs. Even if we imagine that you magically got a third party so popular, that every single member of the progressive caucus belonged to that party, instead of the Democrat party. What you'd have is Trump as president, due to vote splitting between Biden and Bernie in the general. You'd have Pence as the senate tie breaking vote. And, you'd have a Republican plurality, in the house, that would only have to work with a handful of the most conservative Dems, to pass whatever they wanted. They could completely ignore your third party. They wouldn't need your votes on anything. Taking over the Dem party is not only the more effective strategy, it gives you more power. If the progressive caucus can become the majority of Dems, they can pick the party speaker candidate, they can set the party agenda. If also the majority not the house, that speaker could assign committee seats, put forward whatever bills they wanted, and sideline whatever bills they didn't want. Third party is a fantasy. Dore is a grifter, who says he's for one thing, but then takes people down a direction that's never going to get you that thing.
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@outtarespecttomyfawtha1589 No. Sam understands Jimmy, just fine. I'm a former Jimmy viewer, and understand him, just fine. You clearly don't. He's a grifter, who sells himself as supporting one thing, but then promotes going in the worst possible direction, that doesn't ever get you said thing.
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@outtarespecttomyfawtha1589 How many times have you spammed this bullshit comment?
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@outtarespecttomyfawtha1589 You respect complete ignorance, which is itself stupid.
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@outtarespecttomyfawtha1589 Slandering progressives that have done more for M4A in a few years than he has in his entire lifetime, is not okay. Peddling vaccine misinformation, is not okay. Peddling right wing extremists that want a civil war, is not okay. Peddling fantasies that will never get you what you want, is not okay. Jimmy is not okay.
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@outtarespecttomyfawtha1589 Sam tried to have a rational discussion with Jimmy, in 2016, when Jimmy was peddling Trump as the better option than Clinton. Jimmy wasn't having any of it. Every single one of Jimmy's predictions were wrong. Jimmy, himself, argues against simply believing what people say, and to look at what they do, to judge them. Looking at what he does, doesn't show "good intentions", at all.
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@zeeone4492 Assange isn't a leftist issue. Tucker was having pro Assange segments starting a year before Dore ever went on his show, simply to agree with Tucker's right wing takes. How does peddling a public option candidate over the M4A candidate, support M4A? How does abandoning Nina Turner, abandoning adding another M4A yes vote to congress, support M4A? How does peddling "extreme free market" loons as allies, ones that want to start a civil war and will shoot you if you try to implement M4A, once you help them overthrow the government, support M4A?
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@thinkoutsidethelines8265 Pretty sure that the progressive caucus, and even the house Dems, passed the $15 minimum wage. An important progressive policy got a vote. It even passed (M4A didn't have a hope in hell) and got a senate vote. There's lists of no voters from both chambers. Jimmy, and his Dore knobs, have surely done something with those lists of no voters, right? No? They just keep bitching about those who got it to stay in for a round of voting and who voted for it. Pathetic. Progressives regularly vote against the annual defense appropriation bill. They do support the Green New Deal. Do you understand basic math, and how bills are passed? M4A is on the progressive caucus platform. They're the ones that have all co-signed the bill. Did you not grasp the effectiveness and power arguments? Even if you're not fond of the current progressives, it is still more effective to run within the party than running third party, and will get you more power quicker.
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@moe433 Sam promoted voting for Bernie for as long as Bernie was still running, you dimwitted Dore knob. So, the reason you couldn't vote for Bernie, at the time Sam was saying vote Biden, is because Bernie was no longer in the race. Jimmy told people to vote Tulsi "I'm a hawk" Gabbard (public option) over Bernie (M4A), is what he told people to do.
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@moe433 Because Bernie was no longer in the race. Because Trump is even further away from the progressive position. I get it. Jimmy, and his Dore knobs, prefer Trump. Just straight up admit it already.
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@prabesh8277 The medical term is called quarantine. It has been a goto response since the dawn of civilization. And the "camps" in Australia, Canada, and other countries, are for travellers to quarantine. They aren't rounding people up off the streets and tossing them into camps.
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@outtarespecttomyfawtha1589 Which perspective? First he's supporting a public option candidate against the M4A candidate ... then he's acting like a simply not supporting a single secondary tactic to get a pointless performance art vote on M4A is enough to consider other progressives no longer allies ... then he's peddling a far right "extreme free market" nutter, who is opposed to M4A, and disagrees on most everything, as an ally ... then he slanders AOC and Bernie (not the first time) for abandoning M4A, while they're campaigning for Nina Turner, promoting M4A, and trying to add another M4A advocate to congress ... then he abandons Nina Turner, abandoning adding another M4A yes vote to congress ... he's all over the place.
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@thinkoutsidethelines8265 Pretty sure I responded with more than a few sentences about Dore. So, you don't grasp basic math.
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@prabesh8277 Their leader calling to overthrow the democratic process. The majority of their lawmakers trying to overthrow the democratic process. The majority of their followers believing the fascist propaganda, leading to some of them trying to violently overthrow the democratic process. What's not fascist about them?
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@prabesh8277 Have the US, and many other developed countries, been "fascist" for over a century, since they've been mandating vaccinations (something supported by both US parties) for over a century?
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@loverainthunder Ftv was a "plan" to get a pointless 100% guaranteed to fail performance art vote. There's nothing essential about it. Dore, and his knobs, have proved that they're pathetic useless hypocrites, who would have done absolutely nothing with a list of no voters. The $15 minimum got a vote, even passed the house (M4A didn't have a chance in hell) and also got a senate vote. All Dore, and his knobs, have done with lists of no voters is continue to slander those who voted for it.
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@jeffrunge6427 Not even remotely true.
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@thinkoutsidethelines8265 I already understood that you don't grasp basic math. But, thanks for reiterating.
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@jeffrunge6427 1200 dead is not even remotely true.
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@johannuys7914 Fascism is a totality of characteristics, not a single characteristic. Which "liberals" called for overthrowing the democratic process?
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@outtarespecttomyfawtha1589 Stop spamming bullshit.
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@harveymanfredsenjenson5417 Ummm, the median income for a religious studies degree is about $15k above the national, with unemployment rates about 4x lower than the national average and 2x lower than the graduate average.
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@loverainthunder The dynamics of power is that, on bills, there are zero extra votes to be gained to the left of progressives. That makes it absolutely impossible to pass bills without the likes of Manchin. On the flip side, there is the entire Republican party to the right of Manchin, to try and draw extra votes from. If enough Republicans can be brought onboard a bill, then you can pass it without needing progressive votes. A standoff between the left end and right end, of the party, is far more likely to move a bill even further right, rather than left. With regard to the speakership vote, the house hasn't been paralyzed over a speakership vote in about a century. It's not some business as usual tactic. Starting an all out intra party war could have consequences. The broader progressive caucus is about 15 seats away from becoming the majority of house Dems. At that point, they could pick the party speaker candidate, at the Dem caucus. If there's an all out war, with corporate Dems, then they'll likely do the same thing right back at you, and you'll need them, and their votes, more than they need you, and your votes, to be able to pass anything. Okay, you've started a war, for what, exactly? A purely performance art vote. You get a new list of names of congress members that won't sign onto the bill every new session of congress. You have a list of names of politicians who wouldn't sign on, during a pandemic, for 2020. You have a list of names of congress members who haven't signed on, during a pandemic, for 2021. Surely, Dore, and his knobs, are pestering and pressuring every single one of the members of congress who haven't signed on, and organizing protests against them ... wait, what, Dore, and his knobs just keep harrassing and slandering M4A's most ardent congressional supporters? Pathetic. Pelosi actually introduced the M4A bill last session, where it died in committees. She has also already reintroduced the bill, this session, and it's sitting in committees. So, on top of the first two lists, you also have a list of committee members, who let the bill die, during a pandemic, and a list of committee members, who are currently sitting on the bill, during a pandemic. This ... this must be the group of people Dore, and his knobs, are pestering and pressuring, and organizing protests against, to get them to take up the bill ... wait, what, Dore, and his knobs just keep harrassing and slandering M4A's most ardent congressional supporters? Pathetic. Dore is a grifter. What he actually promotes is having progressives sit on the sidelines, in some irrelevant third party, handing the Dem party totally back to corporate Dems, and letting Republicans rule for decades to come.
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@loverainthunder People were pretty freaking energized to get rid of Trump. People like Dore promoted the idea of letting Trump win ... that he was a better option for progressives than Clinton. He had a fantasy that it would result in a massive progressive backlash, that would "for sure" lead to progressives taking the house (wrong) and senate (wrong), in 2018, and the presidency (wrong), in 2020. He claimed that even Republicans would join the left to vote against a Trump agenda (wrong), instead of following him into outright fascism (wrong). He claimed that Trump filling multiple scotus seats was as likely as the moon falling into Lake Michigan (wrong). Letting Trump win was stupid. If those are the only two viable options, still get your asses out and vote the conservative Dem as a vote for that being the worst you want the country to go, instead of letting things get even worse under Republicans. Letting Trump win actually sent voters screaming into Biden's "more electable" arms. It hurt the progressive movement. Bernie started a movement immediately after an Obama presidency. The very premise of the argument, that you need to go backwards to go forwards is idiotic, and has no basis in reality. Going backwards, with Republicans, has shifted the country further and further right. If progressives actually want to move forward, then they should energetically vote to not go backwards, even if the primary doesn't go our way. Progressive candidates, themselves, are highly reliant on "vote blue". If they win the primary, the vast majority of Dems who voted against them in those primaries, will turn around and vote for them in the general. Any hope of Bernie becoming president, rested entirely on all Dems voting for him, in the general. We do need a blue team, that may not be entirely comprised of perfectly perfect puritan progressives, for things to go the progressives' way. I get being jaded, and disappointed, but stop the cycle of madness, and keep f*cking Republicans out of power, forever. They've gone completely bat shit crazy fascist, ffs. Trying to completely overthrow, and end, the democratic process, is the last box that needed checking, to move them from being undemocratic to anti-democratic. Worry about getting even more of them out of office, worry about getting more conservative Dems out of office, before flipping out on, abandoning, and wanting to replace, progressives who have done more for M4A in a few years than Dore has in his entire lifetime. You don't think AOC used what little leverage she had effectively, so be it. But the reality is still that she helped add a few more M4A advocates to congress, in just 2 years. That's more than any third party has done in 50 years. That is going against the DNC candidates. Recently backing Nina was AOC still going against the DNC candidate. That's not the "status quo". And, that is infinitely better than going outright backwards, with Republicans. Get a grip on reality and focus the jaded anger where it should be. This getting angriest with those most aligned to your own views, is nonsensical. Slandering the vast majority of progressives, and the vast majority of progressive voters who vote for them, as "fakes", "frauds", "sellouts", and writing them all off as no longer allies, because of some stupid secondary tactic, is lunacy. Getting so jaded and angry, because you didn't get your way, and not voting, or casting a useless vote, and letting Republicans back in power ... THAT is the "status quo". That is what has been happening for decades. All the covid misinformation is even more dangerous lunacy. Jimmy should be shut down, at this point. He is now making money off of encouraging people to die.
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@prabesh8277 Well, you obviously can't do basic math. The first vaccine mandate was in Massachusetts, in 1809. Pretty sure that's over a century ago. Covid's 1% infection fatality rate is 2x the polio paralysis rate, and 20x the polio infection fatality rate. Plus, it's a lot more contagious, and contagion rates can be far more important than how likely it will kill a single individual. Yeah, not interested in what some fringe "experts" are saying. There is a pretty solid worldwide consensus, amongst doctors and scientists. There is no question the vaccines are effective. 85% of Americans dying are unvaccinated. The flu vaccine needs a shot yearly. It's still effective against the flu.
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@outtarespecttomyfawtha1589 Stop spamming bullshit.
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@2727rogers Why do you keep peddling this bullshit? You've been debunked multiple times.
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@loverainthunder You go ahead. I'd much prefer to hear the Dore knob strawman, or false equivalency, straight from you.
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@loverainthunder You can't both "educate yourself" and be a Dore knob, at the same time. The guy just spit out another covid misinformation video, where he moronically compares case fatality rate (fatalities per confirmed case) to population hospitalization rate (hospitalizations per the total vaccinated and unvaccinated populations). He used that false equivalency to promote misinformation, that covid deaths are being greatly inflated. He is completely ignorant, or completely dishonest. Which is it? The hint you gave me is that you can't produce an instance that isn't a strawman or false equivalency.
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@loverainthunder Serious question ... do you have severe reading comprehension problems, or ADD? Because, I made multiple points, that weren't about Dore. But, it's like you lost attention and didn't read them, or you didn't comprehend them. Whatever the case, you didn't actually address them. Pretty obviously seems to be "can't". You can't seem to address any of my specific points. Part of my argument against Jimmy's "plan" (It did come out of Jimmy's mouth, right? So I can mention him?) was that it had no value. You still haven't explained how getting a 100% guaranteed to fail performance art vote has value. Why would you want to trade whatever little leverage you have, for that? Try starting with explaining how it has value, how it is actually "needed"?
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@loverainthunder Just because they didn't use what little leverage they have on the pointless performance art you wanted, doesn't mean they didn't use it. AOC got nominated as a contender for the committee seat she wanted. She lost to a vote. Even though there was talk of taking the $15 minimum out before the house vote, progressives got it to stay in, and it passed the chamber of congress they belong to. Pelosi has no power over senators. Passing the $15 in the house is more than what M4A would have gotten. M4A is 100+ votes short, in the house alone. Like I said, ftvers have proven themselves to be pathetic useless hypocrites ... proved they do absolutely nothing with lists of no voters ... proved ftv was utterly pointless. Just because they didn't publicly declare outright intra party war, doesn't mean they didn't negotiate. You're spewing generalities, and not really saying anything of substance, or addressing any specifics. I take it you're just trolling.
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@dalekrenegade2596 Yeah, and the lack of self awareness, in these people is astounding. They're hanging on every word of a loudmouth grifter; who slanders anyone who disagrees with him, including others on his side; who sows distrust in all media, healthcare professionals, scientists, and authorities, etc., that contradict his narrative; who throws henchmen (anonymous producers) under the bus, if wrongdoing is unearthed; ... they're very much like Trumpists, even the projecting onto others, that it's you that's the sheep, and not them.
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@loverainthunder Won't use it ... to get a pointless performance art vote, is what was publicly said. She got exactly the same thing as the other woman you were just praising, a shot at the same seat, that was voted on. You're incoherent, at this point.
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@loverainthunder You both praised one woman for getting a shot at a committee seat, and criticized another woman for getting a shot at the exact same committee seat. That's incoherent. It makes zero sense. They both got exactly the same thing from Pelosi, a nomination as a candidate for the spot. And it wasn't "magic" that lost AOC the vote. A couple voters publicly stated they voted against her because she backed progressives against them in the primaries ... for fighting against them. Then you nimrods come along, and slander her, pretending she's not fighting them. She was just fighting them again, by backing Nina, by being on the ground campaigning for her, by promoting M4A, and fighting against the DNC backed candidate to try and add another M4A advocate to congress. Dore publicly abandoned Nina, and promoted never voting for anyone running as a Democrat ever again. He abandoned adding another M4A advocate to congress. He's a lying grifter, who doesn't actually care if anyone ever gets healthcare coverage. Anyone defending him doesn't care either. Thankfully, he's just a narcissist with delusions of grandeur, and only actually represents a few hundred thousand progressive voters, who vote third party.
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@loverainthunder This happened because the majority of voters haven't been getting out and voting to keep Republicans out of power. Republicans keep taking a step to the right and the "moderate" Dems keep meeting them in the new middle. Those "moderate" Dems need to be removed. Primaries should be the main battleground. At the same time, the majority of voters should vote to keep Republicans out of the majority in congress, and out of the presidency, so "moderate" Dems are the worst thing anyone has to worry about, instead of stark raving mad fascists. If you're promoting giving up and going third party, not voting, or something, then you're the one who wants to keep doing that same thing ... let Republicans win, and take another step to the right. Dore is actively trying to get people killed, at this moment. Countering his bullshit isn't simply a distraction.
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@loverainthunder She had just backed progressives in those couple of conservative districts, and they got absolutely creamed, but the conservative Dem managed to take the seat, from a Republican. I fully understand that Dore knobs ... oh, and those of you who aren't Dore knobs, but somehow spew the exact same nonsense as Dore knobs ... would prefer to lose the midterms, and hand the majority to Republicans. I get it ... "real" progressives want Republicans in power and progressives in a minority party, or an irrelevant party that's sitting on the sidelines.
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@loverainthunder Anyone still following Dore, at this point, is a complete and utter moron. Them being Dore knobs is just a fact.
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@zeeone4492 Dore didn't challenge the guy on anything. It was just Boogaloo publicity. He platformed the guy.
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@sergeikhripun You don't know what a "supermajority" is. Democrats do not currently have a supermajority, and they had one in 2009, for all of a few months, if, and only if, you count independent, former Republican, Joe Lieberman, as an actual Democrat. A "supermajority" is not having a majority in the house, senate, and having the presidency. A "supermajority" is having a 2/3, filibuster proof, majority, you dimwitted Dore knob.
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@sergeikhripun You blathered a lot of crap that doesn't change the fact that you have no clue what a "supermajority" is, or are just being dishonest, if you think Dems currently have one. Ironic last sentence, considering that fact.
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@sergeikhripun Canada's healthcare system, btw, is more like Medicaid for all, rather than Medicare for all. Each province runs their healthcare and the federal government cost shares. Newsom adding more and more people to Medi-Cal is going in that direction. You'd have to be a complete and utter moron, if you think Trump, and Republicans, wanting to toss 10+m of the poorest Americans off of Medicaid expansion, is samesies. Or, that all the Republican states which turned down Medicaid expansion, for their citizens, are samesies.
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@sergeikhripun Every Republican in congress voted against the $15 minimum wage, dimwit. Having a handful of conservative morons in the senate isn't samesies with having the entire party opposed. I didn't answer questions that deflected from my point, that you either have zero clue what a "supermajority" is, or are dishonestly claiming there is one now? You just doubled down on it. At no point did Democrats have a supermajority "this year". Nothing you say can change the fact that you're clueless or dishonest. Which is it? Again, Newsom adding more and more people to Medi-Cal is moving in that direction. Republicans want to move in reverse. Not samesies.
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@harveymanfredsenjenson5417 So you don't know what "median" means?
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@harveymanfredsenjenson5417 Yep. So to drive up the "median", they'd have to be in the bottom 50%. You think 50% make more than them? You're making it sound like an awesome degree to get, if that's the case.
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@loverainthunder Ah, so you do have severe reading comprehension problems. I guess that about wraps it up, then.
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@loverainthunder You said a lot of nothing, just like a troll.
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@loverainthunder No. She got the exact same thing, from Pelosi, as the other woman ... a shot at the seat. The behavior that lost her the seat was backing progressives against some of the committee voters. You don't want her backing progressives against corporate Dems? Who is submitting to authority? Is that what you call accepting the broad consensus of doctors and scientists across the world? Being so distrustful, or pandering to those who are so distrustful, that you lie and spread misinformation, yourself, isn't a good thing. It's dishonest grifting. How do you know what he peddles, if you don't watch him?
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@prabesh8277 Australia's covid death rate would translate into 26k total covid deaths in the US, instead of pushing 800k. It's pretty moronic to call saving lives "tyranny". Dumbest use of the word I've ever heard. Again, they are not rounding people up off the streets and putting them in "camps". They're for travellers, to quarantine, before re-entering the general public.
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