Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "I Say "Logic" A Lot, Making Me The Logical One" video.

  1. Objectivity makes no decisions, has no opinions. It is subjectivity that forms opinions and makes decisions. No matter how much Shapiro wants to be a robot, or Harris wants to be permanently comatose, they can't change that fact.
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  2.  Jay McDanieL  Right. He's hurdling over Hume's gap from fact to value, acting as if the value is purely objective, based on the fact, but that's just simply not the case. He's not admitting that the value, and his decision/judgement, is actually based on his own subjective caring about that "life". Depending on the definition of "life", I'd even give him his fact. That still doesn't give it the same value as an infant. Every pro-lifer I've run across would save an infant over 10 fertilized eggs in a petri dish, in a trolley problem. They don't truly think they have the same value, as they claim.
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  3.  Jay McDanieL  Say we take Mr facts don't care about your feelings statement that life begins at conception. So what? Make that matter without any subjective caring.
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  4.  @putinpuppet2063   Sure, empirical senses can be flawed, which is why we have more and more people make observations for things like science, to minimize the chance of flawed observations. Assuming parts are working properly, they're fairly objective, and what one person sees another person sees. Flawed parts doesn't make for a "subjective" observation, it just makes for an incorrect observation. Even a camera could be out of focus, have a scratch, or a microphone could be glitching, etc. Doesn't make their observations "subjective", just incorrect, or flawed. What would be an example of a purely objective wrong decision? Right, Ben is full of all kinds of crap, and is quite dishonest about his facts over feelings mantra. There's no factual evidence to support his religious beliefs. I said make it matter, not make it a fact. I also outright said above that objectivity, facts, truth ... should be independent of any subjectivity. Him simply stating that life begins at conception, isn't actually an argument for action, one way or the other. He states that fact like there's then an automatic objective, emotionless, jump right to anti-abortion, simply because it's "life". So it's "life". So what? That doesn't actually matter without subjectivity. Ben subjectively cares about that zigot and doesn't want it harmed. His feelings are his actual argument, not his fact. Right, an action can't be taken without subjectivity. Not helping someone? Either A, you don't care either way, which means you didn't actually make a decision (like I said above, a robot would sit there observing ... that's not "deciding" not to act, it just doesn't give a crap, so doesn't act ... neither would a vacuum cleaner). B, you subjectively have a desire to see what happens if you don't help, so decide not to. C, you subjectively fear more for your own safety if you try to help, than you do theirs, so decide not to. Or, some other subjective reason to actually decide not to. How could you actually decide not to act without subjectivity?
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  5.  @dinospumoni5611  Hedonism is about feelings (subjectivity). Utilitarianism has a subjective goal. Saying it's an objective fact that the gap needs to be filled with subjectivity (hedonism and utilitarianism), is agreeing with Hume, who said the gap can't seem to be filled with objectivity and can only be filled with subjectivity. Your argument makes no sense.
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  6. Harris is a moron who presents "analogies" that aren't analogous, and never actually makes it beyond what he says is a given to begin with.
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  7.  @coffeecomics3583  Subjectivity, which requires a subject by definition yes, is that subject's preferences, likes, dislikes, biases for or against, opinions, desires, caring, etc. Objectivity is facts, truth, logic, etc., which are supposed to be the case independent of any individual subject. Observations are, basically, objective in nature. It's just empirical evidence being sent to your brain. A computer with cameras, or other sensory input, can observe, record, and store empirical evidence. I'm referring to actions, making a decisions, judgements, things that only comes from a subject's subjectivity. Subjectivity is how you feel about what you observed, not a way to observe. Fact: the subject observes person A forcing person B to have sex So what? That only matters if the observing subject cares, one way or another. The subject will make no decision, make no judgement, without subjectivity. If you care, then you'll make a decision about whether you like or dislike such behaviour, make a judgment whether you feel it's right or wrong. Most people will be inclined towards the dislike/wrong. A robot observing that fact may record it, but it won't ever give a crap, make a decision/judgement, on its own. A programmer could program in their own subjective judgment, telling the robot how to react to such behaviour, but it won't ever actually care itself.
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  8.  Jay McDanieL  Based on facts, isn't simply spouting facts. There is no decision making in just facts. They're facts, no matter what anyone decides. No, then you just subjectively value something more than your own interests. Subjectivity =/= selfish.
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  9. Rofl. That's not a solution.
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