Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "Where's The Squad as Biden Moonwalks on $15 Minimum Wage?" video.

@kennethmcneil3478 Oh, sorry. There are dozens of sources for you not to believe, just like a Trump cultists. That one actually quoted a squad member. But, I guess you imagine they're inventing quotes, or something, like a proper nutter. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/09/progressive-covid-minimum-wage-468061
3
The same face that considered him a moron, before. https://www.newsweek.com/progressives-hold-biden-account-15-minimum-wage-he-suggests-it-dealt-later-1568050
2
@web-angel They got the $15 minimum wage to remain in the house bill.
2
@gabrielarcari72 Convert or replace the 300 odd house members who won't even sign onto it. Whip out the extra 100+ viable pro-M4A candidates that, for some reason, didn't run in the elections that just took place. Pelosi even introduced M4A last session, where it died in committees, where 90% of bills die. Where was the massive uprising?
2
@gabrielarcari72 Where did you get that bullshit from? https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/180416/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/22/defense
2
Yeah, maybe get them to be as popular as the Libertarian party, that hasn't won a single seat in congress in its near 50 year existence.
1
@kennethmcneil3478 Cute, that you think things are similar to about 170 years ago.
1
@kennethmcneil3478 Gloriously? So you want Republicans to win, rather than see the progressive caucus become the majority of house Dems. You must be one of Dore's right wing chump fans.
1
Don't go all Jimmy Dore stupid. "But progressives are pushing for the wage increase to remain, and the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) has already ensured that it will be included in the House Democrats' version of the legislation." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/progressives-hold-biden-to-account-on-15-minimum-wage-as-he-suggests-it-be-dealt-with-later/ar-BB1dxEOV?li=BBnbcA1
1
@Hunter_Brandon What was so "behind closed doors" about it? https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/09/progressive-covid-minimum-wage-468061
1
@graywalkerjoin3rdparty74 Even if every progressive voted third party, each district general election would then look like a Dem primary, with seperate Dem and progressive candidates, running against a single Republican, with Republicans winning most everything, due to first past the post.
1
Bullshit. Progressives got the $15 minimum to remain in the house bill.
1
@gabrielarcari72 The progressive caucaus got the $15 minimum to stay in the house bill. Justice Dems and AOC just helped add more M4A yes votes to congress.
1
@gabrielarcari72 The broader progressive caucus, which include M4A on their platform, is about 10-15 seats away from becoming the majority of house Dems. They could then pick the party speaker candidate at the party caucus. That could happen next election, if that many viable progressive caucus candidates can replace non progressive caucus candidates. On the other hand, the most popular third party hasn't won a single seat in congress in its near 50 year existence. The second most popular hasn't won a single seat in its 20 year existence. Having a broader group of about a hundred progressives, and even a smaller group of 15, or so, completely corporate free progressives, in congress, are both more than any third party has accomplished. Third parties don't get to put forward even a single bill, don't get to cast even a single vote for, or against, even a single bill. It's a fantasy, thinking a third party would be the faster route. That system needs to change, to make third parties more viable, but you can't really change it from the outside.
1
@gabrielarcari72 Because first past the post works against them. Even if you peeled off all progressive voters, from the Dem party, that would just end up letting Republicans win in most places. It would be like Dem primaries vs Republicans in the general.
1
@graywalkerjoin3rdparty74 Progressives don't have the numbers to pick a different party speaker candidate in caucus. The corporate Dem majority could have kept picking Pelosi over and over and over, or someone worse. And if you go all out war within the party, how do you think things will go when the progressive caucus gets the 10-15 more seats it needs to become the majority of house Dems, and they pick the party speaker candidate?
1
@gabrielarcari72 Uh huh. That's why you need to take over one of those parties, instead.
1
@gabrielarcari72 That's a lie. AOC, and others, vote against the seperate military budget, every year.
1
@graywalkerjoin3rdparty74 Pelosi introduced M4A just last session. It died in committees, where 90% of bills die. The speaker, alone, can't even force a bill through committees.
1
@graywalkerjoin3rdparty74 How do you scare the crap out of people who many say would prefer losing to Republicans than progressives, when Republicans would be who benefits most from a popular progressive third party?
1
@graywalkerjoin3rdparty74 The election that just happened would suggest you're exaggerating. Libertarians and Greens did worse than in 2016. Bernie didn't get overwhelming support.
1
@gabrielarcari72 So, you don't want them to just vote against the stand alone defense appropriation bill, you want them to vote against the entire budget? Vote against the budget that includes funding for Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, public housing, etc.?
1
Adding more M4A yes votes to congress is pretty straight forward. It's what you have to do to ever pass a bill. Keeping the $15 minimum wage in the house bill, is also pretty straight forward. And yet you still seem confused.
1
@kennethmcneil3478 Oh, do explain how you can ever pass a bill without enough yes votes, dumb dumb.
1
@griffmustard And how many votes are third parties getting on any bill in congress, dimwit? Zero. 10 is immeasurable times better than 0. You seem to be ignoring the 100, or so, cosigners. It's more like half way there. What's your other option to adding enough votes to get it to pass?
1
Or they, and the entire progressive caucus, got the $15 minimum wage to stay in the house bill. https://www.newsweek.com/progressives-hold-biden-account-15-minimum-wage-he-suggests-it-dealt-later-1568050
1