Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "The Jimmy Dore Show"
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@l.w.paradis2108 I don't have to read what's on your poster, to know that me not letting you stick it up in my store window isn't censorship. To call it such, is nonsense.
I highly doubt a writer has a contract saying they can write whatever the hell they want, whenever they want, and it'll 100% be printed every time, without any editorial input. Even if such a thing existed, breach of contract also doesn't equate to censorship. If we had a contract for you to paint a mural on my wall, and I changed my mind, because I didn't like your sketches, it may be a breach of contract, but that's also not censorship.
Not letting an Armageddon preacher come into my restaurant and scream at my customers isn't censorship.
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@l.w.paradis2108 What did I lie about? You argued "censorship" was a broad concept, going beyond the authorities silencing you, and covers everything from "self-censorship" to "censorship in violation of a private contract", as well. So, everytime someone decides not to say something that might hurt someone else, that's "censorship". That makes it a good thing, in many cases. Ok, Greenwald was "censored", using a broad concept. So what?
It's you that doesn't seem to have read what I said about even if a contract did say that, because you keep going on about the contract. Again, if I sign a contract with you, giving you full artistic license, to paint a mural on the side of my building, but then I decide I don't like your draft sketches and ask you to alter them in some way, that's not censorship. It may be a breach of contract, but me deciding what goes on the wall I own, or what doesn't, is my freedom.
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@davidackerman6837 You mean like Jimmy, who has his own healthcare, and didn't care if promoting Trump as better than Clinton would lead to the ACA being repealed and millions losing theirs, including those with preexisting conditions? Like Jimmy, who promoted Tulsi ("Medicare choice" aka public option) over Bernie, not supporting the better healthcare plan, and not caring if peeling away votes from Bernie could let Biden win? Like Jimmy, who spent the general running an attack ad campaign against Trump's only viable opponent, again not caring if that would lead to total ACA repeal, and suddenly not supporting a public option that also included lowering of the Medicare age, which would add millions more to Medicare? Like Jimmy, who's backing a third party route that won't even get you a seat in congress in the next 50 years, let alone get you M4A, and could just be popular enough to split progressive voting and hand the Dem party totally back to corporate Dems, and let Republicans rule for decades, possibly destroying the healthcare system even more?
That guy doesn't give a flying fuck if anyone ever gets healthcare. Threatening to paralyze the house could just get you a paralyzed house, with corporate Dems blaming progressives for no new covid relief, no new unemployment extensions, no new vaccine funding, etc., during a pandemic. Slandering progressive politicians, who just help add more yes votes to congress, just as the progressive caucus is an election or two away from becoming the majority of house Dems, when they can actually have the majority to pick the speaker, and then bring up progressive bills for votes as often as they like, is moronic.
Jimmy is a pro at overestimating the benefits and underestimating the risks.
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Stop bullshitting. You don't care about others having healthcare.
In 2016, you promoted Trump as a better option, not caring if that might lead to the repeal of the ACA and millions losing their healthcare, including people with preexisting conditions. During the 2020 primaries, you promoted Tulsi ("Medicare choice" aka public option) instead of Bernie (M4A), not caring about getting the better healthcare plan, and not caring that you might peel away enough votes from the more viable progressive and let Biden win. You spent the general basically running an attack ad campaign against Trump's only viable opponent, again not caring if that would lead to the ACA being completely repealed, not caring if he killed thousands of more Americans, and no longer advocated for getting even a public option, or the Medicare age decrease that would put millions more on Medicare. Plus, you're promoting yet another third party that won't even get you a seat in congress in the next 50 years, let alone get you M4A, and could just split progressive voting enough to lose the gains they've made within the Dem party, handing it back to corporate Dems, and let Republicans rule for decades, possibly destroying the healthcare system even more.
If anyone is a "fake", "shill", "sellout", or whatnot, it's clearly you, Jimmy. AOC backed Bernie over Biden, Biden over Trump, and just helped get more pro-M4A progressives elected to congress. Adding more yes votes to congress is the only thing that will ever get M4A passed, failed show vote or no failed show vote.
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75-90% of people dying are unvaccinated. According to the very Gallup article Jimmy cited recently, the hospitalization rate for the unvaccinated is 89x higher than the vaccinated (then he went on to dishonestly compare those rates to a "death rate" that's based on totally different math and also a year and a half old). So, yeah, people not getting vaxxed are morons.
The UK has a totally socialized healthcare system, not just socialized health insurance. Their moron of a leader also didn't take it seriously, for some time, and they also had a shit result because of it. Some other countries with single payer health insurance, also had shit responses. They, and the US, all had pathetically low trace testing rates, testing fewer than 10 people per confirmed case, for months, allowing the virus to spread. Countries with high trace testing rates (50+ people per confirmed case), and a high percentage of the population following guidelines, like S Korea, Vietnam, Australia, New Zealand, and some others, had excellent responses. Their covid death rates would translate into 750+k fewer deaths, in the US. Even the death rates in countries with mediocre testing rates (15+ people per confirmed case) and somewhat better following of guidelines, like Canada, Germany, Denmark, Finland, Norway, and some others, would translate into hundreds of thousands fewer deaths, in the US. So, no, simply having universal healthcare didn't save a lot of lives, and yes, the go to covid measures can save hundreds of thousands of lives, if people follow them. People fighting and arguing against them are morons.
Jimmy is also a moron.
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@krook5158 It's not "what I think of Africa", it's a fact that the life expectancy of all of Africa is 63.
"October 30, 2020 -- A new study conducted by researchers at Imperial College London found the COVID-19 infection fatality ratio is about 1.15% of infected people in high-income nations and 0.23% in low-income nations."
"The disparity between high and low-income nations is due largely to facts that high-income nations tend to have larger number of elderly in their populations whereas low-income nations’ population tend to skew youngers."
Looking at the death rates in low income countries, with much lower life expectancies, is stupid and isn't an honest comparison to high income countries, with much higher life extectancies. But, I get that Dore knobs like being lied to.
The main cause of myocarditis is viruses, dimwit, including covid. Covid causes myocarditis at a higher rate than the vaccines. Plus, it's not a serious condition.
Specifically, the J&J and AZ vaccines, you mean. The mRNA vaccines have nothing to do with blood clots. There were 3 deaths definitely confirmed to be caused by the J&J vaccine, early on, in the US. Then, they figured out who it affects most and what to watch for. There haven't been any reported since.
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@lastfirst5154 Shove the delusional bullshit. Her M4A tweet with 70k retweets was before Jimmy's showboating, and reached her millions of followers even without retweets. Even now, while he's "trending" (not actually on any top trending lists), Jimmy can't break 2k retweets. She absolutely annihilates him at the only thing he does. If that's considered fighting, then she's laying waste to the social media battlefield.
He's an armchair general, shitting on someone fighting in the trenches, someone who actually moved the M4A agenda ahead by helping get more pro-M4A progressives elected, while Jimmy was whining about Colbert crying, and shit Obama (no longer an actual politician) said. Jimmy doesn't give a crap if anyone has healthcare. He has his. He knew the only thing between the small gains the ACA provided, and the repeated attempts to have it repealed, had been Obama vetoes. He knew conservative judges could be bad for women's health. He still promoted Trump as a better option than Clinton, or Stein (which only helped Trump win). He didn't give a crap if millions of previously uninsured, including those with preexisting conditions lost their healthcare.
Again, in 2020, he spent the general election basically running attack ads against Trump's only viable opponent. Jimmy didn't care if the fascist fuck who helped kill thousands of Americans won again, and he fought against the Medicare age being dropped and a public option, with no alternative on the Republican side. He's also ready to start from scratch with another third party, and not get M4A for decades, if ever.
He's a poser.
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@lastfirst5154 She just used her platform and PAC to get more pro-M4A progressives elected to congress. That's what what you'll still have to do, even if you get a vote that's guaranteed to fail. She used her platform to do exactly what needed doing. I doubt Jimmy even has 100 new pro-M4A candidates lined up, to replace the ones who will need replacing in the house and senate. When he does, go to her to actually do what needs doing.
Dore? Rofl. He peddled the shit that Trump would be better for progressives than Clinton, claimed the moon would fall into Lake Michigan before Trump could fill multiple scotus seats, claimed it would bring about a massive wave of progressives and flip the house, senate, and bring about a 2020 Warren presidency. He peddled the shit that Stein had a chance.
Now he's using his platform to peddle the shit that he actually cares if anyone gets healthcare coverage. He did what he could to get Trump elected in 2016. He didn't care that could lead to the repeal of the ACA and millions losing their healthcare coverage. Jimmy, basically, spent the 2020 general election running an anti-Biden campaign, Trump's only viable opponent. During a pandemic, he didn't care if Trump stayed in power and killed more Americans, he didn't care that millions more would get coverage by lowering the social security age to 60. Jimmy is also, once again, promoting a third party. He's willing to start from scratch and maybe win a house seat in a few decades, while Republicans run the show because you've split the vote.
Anyone who believes that that guy gives a shit about getting you healthcare coverage anytime soon, is overflowing with the amount of shit they've been shovelled.
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Stop pretending like you care if people have healthcare. You didn't in 2016. You didn't this election cycle. Slandering progressives who just added more yes votes to congress and going third party won't even win you a seat in congress in 50 years, let alone get anyone healthcare, but could split progressive voting enough to hand the Dem party back to corporate Dems, and let Republicans rule for decades.
The progressive caucus is maybe only another election away from becoming the majority of house Dems. Then they can actually pick the speaker in caucus, and bring M4A up for a vote as often as they want. All they can do now is paralyze the house. Corporate Dems can just let them, and then blame progressives for people not getting new covid relief, not getting more unemployment extions, not getting more vaccine funding, not getting a minimum wage increase etc., during a pandemic.
If anyone is a "fake", "shill", or "sellout", it's Jimmy Dore, who keeps encouraging progressives to take the dumbest road possible.
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@claybrown1258 Moron. How the fuck does the right have both Ayn Rand spouting right libertarian types and authoritarian crony capitalist fascist types? How the fuck is calling for gays to be killed, or pushing conversion "therapy", or the "right" to discriminate, "inclusive"? How the fuck is regularly calling a penisless, sexless, imaginary friend "him" or "father", but not seeming to understand the difference between sex and gender when it comes to humans, compatible? How the fuck is calling for throwing people who do get abortions in jail, "inclusive"? How the fuck is most of them thinking you, a supposed atheist, to be the least trustworthy group in the country, at all accepting? Just sounds like they're being two faced. How the fuck is both claiming to be for democracy and supporting every fascist dictator on the planet, compatible? Etc. The right has boatloads of contradictions and non acceptance, you dumb shit.
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@clintonflynn815 Sure, but this plan isn't going to get M4A now.
If you get the vote, which is guaranteed to fail, you get a list of names that'll be pretty much the same as the list of names you'll get when the bill is reintroduced in the new session anyway. And then you have to replace them, just like AOC just helped do.
Or, you don't get the vote, and corporate Dems let progressives paralyze the house and blame them for no new covid relief, no new unemployment extensions, no new vaccine funding, etc., during a pandemic.
Jimmy is exaggerating the potential gains and ignoring any potential risks. The idiot doesn't even grasp how the speaker vote actually works, as he's reading it aloud.
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@Galadriel333 She was for "Medicare choice", dipshit, and wanted to let people who liked their private healthcare keep it. That would make opting into Medicare an option, dumbass.
No he doesn't. It's the majority of votes cast that wins. He even brought up a webpage and read that aloud, but still didn't clue in that abstentions don't count as votes, absentees don't count as votes, unfilled seats don't count as votes. For every 2 of those, the threshold needed to win is reduced by 1. Although unlikely, it is possible for McCarthy to win. Jimmy dishonestly, or moronically, claims it's impossible.
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@andrefasset3266 Someone who just used their platform and PAC to help add more pro-M4A votes to congress isn't a fucking "fake", "shill", "sellout", or whatever other bullshit. It's the very thing that needs doing to ever pass a bill, it's the very thing you'd still need to do after a failed vote. Saying it's not fighting, not doing anything, means Jimmy's plan is to get a failed vote and then not fight and not do anything.
Show me the video where she ever advocated threatening to paralyze the house, and then flipped. She was obviously talking about getting a vote through normal means, you morons. Threatening to paralyze the house doesn't even guarantee you get a vote, you dumb shits. It could just get you a paralyzed house, during a pandemic, with corporate Dems blaming progressives for no new covid relief, no new unemployment extensions, no new vaccine funding, etc.
You morons grow up and stop slandering other progressives over a secondary tactics disagreement.
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