Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "TBN Israel"
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@o00nemesis00o Except, Palestinians were just sitting there, minding their own business, and the Zionists came to them, dumb dumb. Partition was forced against the will of the majority. Even then, there were still about 100k more non-Jews, than Jews, in the Zionist portion. To believe that Zionists had zero intention to ethnically cleanse 700k non-Jews, would require believing they had zero intention of making it a Jewish state. But, do go on, about how people from Germany and Russia were somehow invaded by Palestinians.
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@abacus299 Dimwit. Likud was founded by Irgun (bombed Palestinian markets and the King David Hotel) and Lehi (considered worse than Irgun and tried to ally with Nazis against Britain) terrorists. Their platform, "between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty", promises to completely colonize and ethnically cleanse all Palestine territories. It further claims a "right" to all the "Land of Israel", which is an open declaration of future wars, against Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and possibly Iraq.
They're the invaders, colonizers, ethnic cleansers, operating an open air WWII style fascist ghetto, dumb dumb.
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@rachellevy797 Likud was founded by Irgun terrorist leader, Menachem Begin, who bombed the King David Hotel. The Irgun also bombed numerous Palestinian markets and other public places, murdering many Palestinian civilians, including children, even including Palestinian Jews (who didn't support colonialist Zionsim). Another Likud member, Yitzhak Shamir, was the leader of the Lehi terrorist group, considered worse than the Irgun, both terrorists and assassins, who assassinated multiple British delegates, and they even tried to ally with the Italian Fascists and German Nazis against the British. They, along with the Haganah, also routinely killed British troops.
Israel merged those terrorist groups into their military (IDF) and intelligence (Mossad) agencies, making them terrorist organizations. Israelis elected those terrorist leaders as PMs. Israelis, to this day, celebrate those terrorists ... child murderers, Jew murderers, Nazi sympathizers, and killers of British troops ... as "heroes". Likud's platform, "between the sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty", promises to completely colonize and ethnically cleanse all Palestine territories. It further claims a "right" to all the "Land of Israel" (fictional biblical borders that don't mesh with archaeological reality), which is an open declaration of future wars, against Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and possibly Iraq.
Congrats. You support terrorists, assassins, colonizers, ethnic cleansers, and occupiers, who also operate an open air WWII style fascist ghetto.
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@nnagildan8455 Ok. Oh look, Israel is still objectively the aggressor by every relevant measure (modern history, law, and current events) ...
Modern history: With the Balfour declaration, Zionsim converted from something like immigration to colonization. 100 years ago, in 1923, Ze'ev Jabotinsky fully acknowledged that Zionism is colonialism, and that, based on the entirety of history, the native Palestinians would fight it until the bitter end. He just didn't care what would happen to them, and promoted doing it anyway. Colonizers are never not the aggressors, when it comes to the native population.
On top of the colonialist nature of Zionism, the Zionists also formed terrorist organizations, like the Irgun and Lehi. They bombed many Palestinian markets and other public places, murdering many civilians, including children, even including Palestinian Jews (who opposed colonialist Zionism). Israel merged those terrorists into the new nation's military and intelligence agencies. Israelis elected Menachem Begin, leader of the Irgun, child murderer, Jew murderer, and bomber of the King David Hotel, as PM. Israelis, to this day, celebrate those Irgun terrorists as "heroes". Zionists literally taught their neighbours that terrorism is a valid path to independence and statehood, and that terrorists are to be celebrated.
In 1945, it is well documented that Zionists owned just 5% of the land and were a majority in zero districts. Israel was formed by going against the will of the majority population. Its foundation is completely undemocratic. Even then, Jews were still a minority, in "their" half. The only possible way to actually become a Jewish ethno-state, would be to ethnically cleanse away the actual majority. And, that's exactly what happened. Israel has never allowed those people to return.
Law: Israel is considered an occupier by the International Court, the UN GA, and the UN SC. Occupiers are also never not the aggressors. Those occupied actually have a right to resist occupation. On the flip side, it is illegal for the occupier to settle occupied lands, and illegal to use collective punishment. Israel is a rogue nation, that doesn't abide by international law. What it has been doing, and is doing now, is illegal.
Current events: This year, alone, prior to Oct 7 ... Israel held over 1200 Palestinian hostages without charges ... over 200 Palestinians had been killed by the IDF and settlers ... over 1000 Palestinians had been displaced by Israel's neverending colonization of the West Bank ... and, Israel continued to operate an open air WWII style fascist ghetto. Even ignoring modern history and law, in no reality did Hamas "start" anything.
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