Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "Lex Clips"
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@zachdave2994 I'm the one saying all levels of security prisons are prisons, that they come in different flavours, but they're all prisons. You can't grasp basic English. You're the one arguing they all have to be the same (the absolute worst), or they don't count as prisons.
When someone was saying IL was klling children, you said children die in war, and referred to the Allies. And, you can't seem to grasp analogies. That IL are the clonizers, ethnic cleansers, occpiers, and operators of an open air ghto, makes them analogous (not to be confused with perfectly exactly pure samesies) to the Nzis, in a WWII analogy.
Yeah, I'd have been on the same side as all my grandparents, granduncles, and grandaunts (who also all volunteered). I'd be on the side of my Danish resistance grandfather ... the Danish resistance got almost every Jew out of Denmark. So, I likewise don't support similar (not to be confused with perfectly exactly pure samesies) behaviour, by Revisionists, in Palestine.
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@zachdave2994 I see you didn't bother reading my history of Likud, comment. It literally discusses the difference between the two statements. Yeah, yeah, just the guy, and party, that dominated IL politica, from the beginning until 1965. How about Golda Meir, was she the great peace partner? “It was not as if there was a Palestinian people in Palestine and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist.”
A n a l o g y ... look up what it means.
No. I don't think all Germans were Nzis. However, it was still a Nzi state. Right? Same with IL. You don't seem to understand much of anything I say.
Your original "argument" was bringing up the Allies, when someone else was talking about IL klling children. My point was that IL is DE in any WWII analogy. Then you went off ranting about irrelevant nonsense, that doesn't change that fact. IL are the clonizers, ethnic cleansers, occpiers, and operators of an open air fscist style ghtto. They are analogous (not to be confused with perfectly exactly pure samesies) to DE, not the Allies.
Because the differences, between a ghtto and and an exterm camp, are irrelevant to whether IL is operating a fscist style ghtto. I never said they were operating an exterm camp. You can prattle on about exterm camps, all you want, but you're not talking about the ghttos themselves, or anything I said, the entire time you do.
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@zachdave2994 You're the one who went from me saying "WWII style fascist ghtto" to exterm camps, single brain cell, not me. I was the one saying you were on an irrelevant deflection, going that route, but you kept ignoring me. When you went down that route, I was the one who very very clearly stated, to clarify your delusional take, that I didn't think a US Japanese concentration camp was "as bad as" a Nzi camp. But, you kept going on, and on, and on, and on, as if I ever once said two things were exactly perfectly 100% pure samesies. You have severe severe comprehension problems.
A n a l o g y ... analogous to the different security levels of prisons, not that they specifically have a roof, ffs. C'mon Drax, keep up. Analogous to the levels of horribleness in Nzi ghttos. Just because one ghtto didn't have absolutely every element you rambled on and on and on and on about, doesn't mean it wasn't a ghtto.
Yet again, you were the one who brought in NYC, not me. When you did, I very very clearly asked if I had to type out "fscist style ghtto" every single time, for you. I guess your single brain cell has answered my question.
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@zachdave2994 Your original "argument" brought up the Allies, in response to IL klling children. I mentioned a few reasons why IL is more analogous to the Axis. The clonization, which you ignored. The occpation, which you ignored. And, that they're the one operating a WWII style fascist ghtto. That was the one thing you grasped upon, which isn't even necessary, to make the point that Znist invders, clonizers, and occpiers, are more analogous to the Axis than the Allies. Clonizers are never not the aggrssors. Znists are the aggrssors. Nzis were the aggrssors.
As for Gza, it is walled, just the same. IL controls the borders, airspace, shores, electricity, water, what goes in and out (including food), and who goes in and out, just the same. The IL occpier has complete military dominance over the walled space, just the same.
There actually were not Nzis "everywhere", inside ghttos, like you said. They didn't like interacting with Jws, and didn't want their troops doing so either. They tried to minimize contact with Jws. Hence the Jwish councils and Jwish ghtto police, who administered the interior of ghttos. The Nzis militrized, and guarded, the perimeter, just like IL.
Not all Nzi ghttos had forced slve labour, like you said. Some had work permit based labour. Some Jwish councils even negotiated to create places for Jws to work, so they could earn extra food and money.
Not all Nzi ghttos had experiments, and ghttos weren't the same as exterm camps, as you've tried to make out.
Gza not being 100% on par with the worst possible Nzi ghtto, doesn't mean it isn't equivalent to any WWII style fscist ghtto. You would rule out a number of actual Nzi ghttos, with your standards. Gza has enough similarities, to qualify.
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@CR33SIVE "The idea that Jews would’ve out of hand rejected any state that had Arabs on it or always had a plan of expulsion, it’s just betrayed by the acceptance of the 47 partition plan." ~ Bonnell
"I see in the realisation of this plan practically the decisive stage in the beginning of full redemption and the most wonderful lever for the gradual conquest of all of Palestine." ~ Ben Gurion
∆ Accepting a plan is, in no way, evidence that those accepting considered the borders permanent, nor evidence of them accepting the current demographics within those borders. The 1948 post Nakba population of Israel was 716700 Jews and 156000+ non-Jews. If 711000+ non-Jews were Nakba refugees, that means the pre-Nakba population of what became Israel, had 150000+ more non-Jews than Jews. To believe they had zero intention to cleanse the non-Jewish majority requires believing they had zero intention to create a Jewish majority state.
This demographic reality was also evidenced in a 1945 Village Statistics survey, done by the British. It showed that the Zionists owned just 5% of the land, and weren't a majority in any districts. There was no possibility of becoming a Jewish majority state, just by adding border lines. It was going to require moving people.
Ben Gurion was a "moderate", btw. The Revisionists, who would found the Irgun, Lehi, and Likud, were always open about wanting it all, and opposed partial deals.
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