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Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "Briahna Joy Gray: The REAL Reason Progressives Didn't Fight On $15 Minimum Wage" video.
If you ignore that progressives demanded that the $15 min stay in the bill, which passed the house, I guess. You wanted them to what ... not vote for what the senate sent back to the house, push to put the $15 min back in again, and send it back to the senate a second time? Because the senate was going to change its mind?
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@Bluebelle51 You're way overestimating their power. Dore singled out 15 people he seems to consider the most progressive. There are zero other extra votes to be gained around them, or to the left of them. On the other end, there are 20 corporate Dems who are in the same idiological voting range as 40 Reps, plus the rest of the Republican party to the right of them. There are far more votes to be lost, or gained, on the right. That means the furthest left Dems can only push a bill as far left as the furthest right Dems will allow. If there's a standoff, there's more votes to be gained by moving the bill to the right.
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@Bluebelle51 The senate was going to change its mind? Which ones?
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@viddrone Learn what "gaslighting" actually means. Why, exactly, was trying to get a guaranteed to fail vote on M4A "needed"? You get a new list of names of those who won't cosign the bills every new session of congress. Run against all of them. If you had the 100+ more viable pro-M4A candidates needed to pass it, just laying around, why didn't you run them in the election cycle that just ended? The speaker, alone, can't even force a bill out of committees to a floor vote. It takes a petition signed by the majority of the house. How was that going to be accomplished, when it's some 100 votes short in the house?
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@theciakilledjfk5973 I didn't mention public opinion so, no, my argument doesn't presuppose anything of the sort. Bills are passed within the halls of government. That's not "gaslighting". "Gaslighting" is a specific brand of manipulation designed to make someone feel, or appear, insane. Every single lie, piece of propaganda, manipulation of facts, or whatnot, isn't "gaslighting".
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Demon Best Joe Manchin, along with about 19 other corporate Dems, have similar voting records in the range of about 40 moderate Republicans. There are extra out of party votes that can be gained in their neighborhood. There is also the rest of the Republican party to the right of that group. There are no extra out of party votes to be gained in the same neighborhood as the squad. There are no votes to be gained to the left of them. If there's a standoff between the left end and the right end of the party, there are more votes to be gained by going right. The squad can only move things as left as the likes of Manchin will allow. You're imagining them having far more power than they actually have.
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