Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS US Government with Facts and Logic!" video.

And when it comes to infection, he jumps to "doesn't prevent infection", skipping over that it still significantly reduces the likelihood of infection.
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@RobCipher Well, that has more to do with the type of virus, and the antibodies it produces, rather than the vaccines. The antibodies for some viruses last most of your life, others maybe a decade, others only months. And viruses that mutate more frequently can change the effectiveness of vaccines more frequently.
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@DiesiraeL Who, as a doctor, is 99% likely to be vaccinated.
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@maxmusterman9262 In this clip, he literally skips over that vaccines significantly decrease the likelihood of infection, to jump to the strawman that they don't outright prevent infection, to support his anti-mandate argument. That's some anti-vax bullshit. No vaccine provides absolute 100% protection.
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@xenomar9417 He uses the "doesn't prevent infection" strawman in this very video, instead of saying vaccines also significantly reduce infections. That's misleading people about the vaccines, not simply a no mandate argument. No vaccine 100% prevents infection, and yet he was good with mandating them before ... "The point of mandatory vaccinations is not merely to protect those who are vaccinated. When it comes to measles, mumps and rubella, for example, children cannot be vaccinated until 1 year of age. The only way to prevent them from getting diseases is to ensure that those who surround them do not have those diseases. The same is true for children with diseases like leukemia, as well as pregnant women. Herd immunity is designed to protect third parties. But Americans have short memories and enormous confidence in junk science. Parents will ignore vaccinations but ensure that their kids are stocked up with the latest homeopathic remedies, Kabbalah bracelets and crystals. St. John's wort, red string and crystals all existed before 1962. They didn't stop the measles. Vaccination did. When it comes to measles and mumps and rubella and polio, your right to be free of vaccination -- and your right to be a dope with the health of your child because you believe Jenny McCarthy's idiocy -- ends where my child's right to live begins."
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@sprucesoultree3833 Probably, yeah, just like all the FOX loons.
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@maxmusterman9262 Ben Shapiro, 2015: "When it comes to measles and mumps and rubella and polio, your right to be free of vaccination -- and your right to be a dope with the health of your child because you believe Jenny McCarthy's idiocy -- ends where my child's right to live begins."
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@RobCipher How long will mostly likely have to do with hospitalization and death rates. If you think those are anywhere close to cold and flu levels, then you're completely delusional.
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@RobCipher The covid vaccines are proving to be effective for everyone, of all age categories. A 0.1% infection fatality rate is also the flu's pre vaccine infection fatality rate. So, you're removing older people from the equation (partly because you don't grasp how herd immunity works, and how everyone being vaccinated helps old people as well), just so you could point out that covid is as deadly for the individual as pre-vaccine influenza, while ignoring that it is far more contagious meaning more deadly overall, causes more hospitalizations amongst all age groups, and is millions of times more likely to cause long term effects? Covid has left over 120k American kids orphaned by killing adults young enough to still have kids. Studies have shown that while covid is less deadly than the flu, for individual kids, the fact that it's far more contagious makes it more dangerous overall. The flu kills about 500 kids a year (pre covid). Covid has now killed over 1000k, in two, and most of those since Delta (1 year). And that was with all the covid measures. All the covid measures (masks and such) massively reduced the flu rate, because it's so weak, in comparison to covid.
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@malachiromero6077 Smoking is more analogous, and oh look, there are fines for smoking, extra taxes, increased insurance rates, and an almost universal ban in all public indoor places. Want to smoke? Step outside. Don't want to get vaccinated or wear a mask? Step outside.
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@malachiromero6077 How do you win against the Supreme Court? They're judges. Ben doesn't even grasp the first amendment and has lost at least one "free speech" case.
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@malachiromero6077 He's an Orthodox Jew. What needs elaborating? It's a fairy tale. Yes, when no vaccine is 100% and can completely prevent infection, skipping saying that vaccines significantly reduce infections, and instead saying they don't prevent infections, is arguing against a strawman.
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@DevinMacGregor Exactly. Want to smoke? Step outside. Don't want to be vaccinated, or wear a mask? Step outside. It's a pretty simple concept. People making out like it's akin to being Jewish in Nazi Germany, are insane.
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@RobCipher You're ignoring herd immunity. Let's say there's a vaccine for a virus that has 50% efficacy. I'm vaccinated and I run across someone with the virus. The vaccine reduces my chances of catching the virus by 50%. If you stick another person between me and the carrier, I'm now protected 75%. Another, and I'm protected 87.5%. Another and I'm protected 93.75%. Even if everyone in between a high risk person and a carrier was themselves low risk, them being vaccinated still helps the high risk person. Making out like vaccines only benefit the individuals vaccinated, is pure bullshit.
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@RobCipher You're again pretending like you're only affecting you. You are providing zero increased protection, in the equation. You're the weak link in the chain. How are you going to know you've got it, if you're asymptomatic? What was wrong with a vaccine or test mandate?
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@RobCipher People are stupid. Nothing was really rushed. The process for creating them is simply faster. The FDA usually approves, or doesn't, drugs within 6 months after trials. The vaccines went through phase I through III trials, just like anything else. They were fully approved in a standard amount of time. Waiting for full approval might have been a quasi valid excuse, once upon a time. Now, it's just stupidity. Are they all qualified doctors and scientists, who know the proper amount of time, to wait? Oh, wait, nope. Doctors are like 99% vaccinated. Just how much time should people wait, exactly, in their "expert" opinions?
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@malachiromero6077 Ben can't even survive his own slogan, "facts don't care about your feelings". His entire worldview is based on a fairy tale.
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@malachiromero6077 If you're strawmanning vaccines, to support your anti-mandate position, then you're spreading vaccine misinformation, which panders to anti-vaxxers.
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@malachiromero6077 What are you blathering about? You're talking percentages that represent millions of people, dimwit.
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@malachiromero6077 Now what are you talking about?
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