Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "Is Israel Simply "Defending Itself"?" video.
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@antidote4870 The two state solution took land from the native population and gave it to newcomers, from Europe and Russia. It was based on colonialism. It's almost a single state, already. Israel sure seems like it wants that outcome. Bezalel Smotrich, the lunatic Netanyahu put in charge of the West Bank, made public a plan to segregate and subjugate (no federal representation), exile, or kill, any non Jews in all of Israel/Palestine. Even worse, his map of "Israel" includes parts of Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon.
The question is whether Palestinians will have any property or rights left. To survive as a Jewish ethno-state, Israel has to keep Jews as the majority, which means continuing to ethnically cleanse, or kill, enough Palestinians to keep themselves in the majority, or resort to taking away any non Jewish rights and give up being democratic.
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@darrellvalentine7316 Nothing you said refutes that colonialists are aggressors, dumb dumb. There were even times, throughout history, where less developed peoples conquered and colonized more developed civilizations.
On top of the Zionist colonialism, Israel was also founded on its own terrorism, by groups like the Irgun and Lehi. They bombed Palestinian markets, killing many civilians, including children, even killing Palestinian Jews (who didn't support Zionism). Those terrorist groups were merged into the new nation's military and intelligence agencies. Israelis elected Menachem Begin, leader of the Irgun, who bombed the King David Hotel. Israelis, to this day, celebrate those terrorists as heroes. They literally taught their neighbours that terrorism is a valid path to independence and statehood.
Even the Jews under Roman rule rebelled, and killed tens of thousands of non Jewish civilians. Even with how violent they were, they didn't take kindly to the Roman use of excessive force, the destruction of their temple, or being ethnically cleansed. If the Roman reaction was justified, then that completely eradicates the only justification they had to support their Zionist colonialism ... that they were forced out, and didn't leave willingly.
You should also maybe consider whether a bomb dropping on a baby might blow its body apart.
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@antidote4870 Ummm, the planning for a Zionist state started in like 1918. Ben-Gurion declared they wanted it all. And, no, the Zionists always demanded to be a majority in their own state. One of the first plans included force moving a third of the native population, over 200k Palestinians. On top of being colonialist, Jewish terrorist groups, like the Irgun and Lehi, helped force the final solution. It's literally a colonialist terrorist nation.
How will a 2 state solution work, in 2023, when Israel has continued colonizing Palestinian lands the whole time? You think Palestinians will agree to having jack shit left over? Only if you squash their spirit, or ethnically cleanse or kill the ones who don't accept, like native Americans. Being stuck on reserves isn't exactly a "two state" solution. And, there's zero indication that Israel would willingly return to any former borders.
Other nations, that can pressure an outcome, need to step in, and demand one, like with South Africa. That would take them growing some balls, and finally declaring Israel a racist/colonialist/terrorist/fascist state. And, they can also pressure towards an outcome that would actually work.
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