Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "Cancel culture, free speech, and deplatforming | Greg Lukianoff interview" video.

The paradox of tolerance (based on the paradox of freedom) argues that tolerating intolerance, makes society less tolerant. Plenty of countries with hate speech laws are ranked freer than the US on the freedom index. From what I see, the right cancels things that actually promote tolerance, while the left more properly cancels the intolerant.
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@brenden4915 Too bad for you, you're factually wrong. Top 10 Countries with the Highest Human Freedom Indexes (2021): Switzerland — 9.11 New Zealand — 9.01 Denmark — 8.98 Estonia — 8.91 Ireland — 8.90 Canada — 8.85 Finland — 8.85 Australia — 8.84 Sweden — 8.83 Luxembourg — 8.80
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@andyj845 The safety and security metric, yeah. You don't think hate speech incites people? Literally just a kid stabbed to death after listening to right wing radio, and a far right loon shoot up Maine. You don't think hate speech leads to discrimination? Literally book bannings and even word bannings going on right now. Doesn't CA's banning of book bannings actually make for more freedom, than having the "freedom" to ban whatever books you want?
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@brenden4915 The US has laws about defaming and threatening individuals, but people can say whatever batshit crazy bullshit they want, against entire groups of people. Being free from threats, defamation, and the discrimination and hate crimes that follow, makes them freer.
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@andyj845 My OP referred to the concept, dimwit ... the paradox of freedom.
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@andyj845 Do you understand the paradox of freedom? "Total freedom", giving people the freedom to violate others' freedoms, actually diminishes freedom. To maximize freedom, you have to take away the freedom to violate others' freedoms. Therefore, "total freedom" =/= maximum freedom. Laws restricting some freedoms can make a society more free. Outlaw the freedom for people to randomly kill anyone they want, and you increase the freedom of being able to walk outside, without being killed, instead of hiding in your home.
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@andyj845 Evidence based objectivity.
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@andyj845 More evidence. You don't know what an "ad hominem" actually is, but ignorantly use the term. "You are stupid." - Not an ad hominem fallacy, and could very likely be an accurate description, based on solid evidence. "You are stupid, therefore you must be wrong." - An ad hominem fallacy, because it doesn't necessarily follow that someone stupid's claim is always wrong.
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Cancelling used to get enshrined into laws, more, and usually by the more right wing misogynistic racist Christian fundamentalist types. All kinds of laws cancelling what women were allowed to do and wear. All kinds of laws cancelling what minorities were allowed to do. All kinds of laws cancelling not following sexuality and gender norms. The government behind multiple Red Scares, blacklisting socialists, etc., etc.
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@brenden4915 Nope. Literally ranked freer than the US, dumb dumb.
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@andyj845 Just how daft are you trying to prove you are? My initial evidence was the objective fact that the paradox of freedom is mentioned in the OP (which is still there, clear as day, and unedited, for all to see), and yet you moronically claimed I didn't understand something I had already clearly mentioned.
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@disorderandregression9278 Similar to the speech laws that protect individuals, and protects the same groups covered by civil rights laws and hate crimes. In the US, you can constantly defame an entire race, but can get sued if you defame an individual ... you can say all X should be killed, but get charged for threatening an individual ... etc. And, it applies to public places, so you can still be racist, or whatever, at home.
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@disorderandregression9278 Also, pretty sure the US is already having a democratic backsliding, giving racists, bigots, etc., their "free speech".
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