Comments by "" (@TheHuxleyAgnostic) on "This is straight up antisemitism" video.

  1. Just to clarify what "government" means, in this case ... In 1923, Ze'ev Jabotinsky fully acknowledged that Zionism is colonialism. He predicted, based on the entirety of history, that the natives would fight said colonialism until the bitter end. He didn't care what would come of the natives, and claimed their colonialism was morally "good". Something that should be differentiated, is the colonialists can't ever really be "victims" of natives. Natives wouldn't be able to attack you, if your colonialist aggression hadn't put you there. On top of the colonialism, Israel's next building block is terrorism, by groups like the Irgun and Lehi. They killed many Palestinian civilians, including children, even including Palestinian Jews (who opposed Zionism). Those terrorist groups were merged into the new nation's military and intelligence. Israelis elected Menachem Begin, terrorist leader of the Irgun, who bombed the King David Hotel, as their PM. Israelis, to this day, celebrate those terrorists as "heroes". They literally taught their neighbours that terrorism is a valid path to independence and statehood, that terrorists are heroes, and now cry that it's not, and they're not ... if Palestinians do it. Israelis have been voting for their governments, since its inception. They hold some responsibility for its actions. Due to mandatory service, almost every single Israeli is, was, or will be, a militant. Israeli militants kill Palestinians, including children, on a regular basis. Israel has hundreds of thousands of reserve militants (valid military targets) "hiding" amongst civilians, using them as "human shields". Israel also has a policy of blaming the families of Palestinian militants, and unleashing collective punishment, but cries foul, if this is done to them. That a Jewish nation is running an open air WWII style fascist ghetto, is just about the most vile thing, about Israel. Becoming the thing they fled, is a very dark part of history.
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  2. ​ @alexlifeson1321  Ze'ev Jabotinsky, a leading Zionist, in 1923, fully acknowledged that Zionism is colonialism. He also predicted, based on the entirety of history, that the native response to said colonialism would be to fight it until the bitter end. He did not state these facts to deter people away from Zionism, which he argued was morally good. He was basically pointing out that, to support Zionism, you have to not care about the consequences for the natives. Was Ze'ev, a Zionist himself, anti-Semitic?
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  3. So, Hebrews are Mesopotamians, and at no point in history were ever native to the land, is what you're saying?
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  4.  @neutrino78x  That was an incoherent mess. Mesopotamia is not Africa, and the Bible literally describes natives of Mesopotamia conquering other people, who were already there. Genociding the natives is pretty much the opposite of being a native.
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  5.  @neutrino78x  I do not believe, for a second, that you have a high IQ, because all the evidence you're providing points towards you being a complete and utter moron. People were spread all over the world, well before a civilization developed in Mesopotamia. Pretty much every human civilization did not descend from it. Many pre civilization migrations not only didn't require pausing in Mesopotamia, they didn't even require stepping foot in Mesopotamia. Migration to Southern Asia, via the Southern route out of Africa, not only didn't require stopping in the Mediterranean, to count as "descending" from it, it didn't even require passing through it. There goes half of the global population, and the civilizations they created. Egypt clearly doesn't require leaving Africa. Neither does North Africa. People leaving Africa do not have to travel to Mesopotamia, to go back to Canaan. It's the first habitable place, leaving Africa along the coast. You just leave and stop. You do not need to wander over to Mesopotamia, to get to Turkey, where the Hittite civilization emerged. Just stick to the Mediterranean coast. Likewise, with getting to Europe, from Africa. Do you also believe we all talked the same language, almost built a tower to Heaven (which would place Heaven a few hundred feet above Iraq), and were then magically teleported around the world with different languages, less than 6000 years ago?
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  6. ​ @alexlifeson1321  Rofl! European DNA goes back to Africa. They still colonized the shit out of Africa. If I rounded up 6 million people from the Americas, with ancestry dating back to England hundreds of years ago, we'd have a right to demand half of England, for us to rule over? No. That's absurd. We'd be colonizers, if we forced the people living there off their lands. Palestinians also have Canaanite DNA. They're natives ... that stayed.
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  7.  @mycosys  Are you not following the conversation? OP: "criticizing Zionism isn't anti-Semitic", other guy: "it kinda is", then me responding to that.
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  8.  @mycosys  Not an assumption. It's the only thing that makes grammatical sense.
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  9.  @mycosys  David doesn't seem to cover events, unless something has happened to Israel, or unless there's some news about Hamas doing something bad. Prior to the Hamas attack, there had been almost one Palestinian a day, killed by the IDF or settlers (who are rarely punished). I don't know if I'd say he's an outright Zionist, but I do think he has a bias. "Zionist" also has a definition. It's not simply name calling. Leaving out details, like that, and the entirety of the history, has David, like most, framing things in a way that makes Israel out to be the one responding to Hamas' violence. After hundreds of Palestinians were killed, this year alone, why isn't Hamas instead framed as the one responding to Israel's violence? People are more understanding as to why say Geronimo left the reserve his tribe had been forced onto, multiple times, to go on a warpath. Not framing Israel as the colonialist power that it is, allows for propaganda like "The savages have attacked poor innocent settlers!", rather than "Natives have left the dirt patch they were forced onto, and have attacked people that have been colonizing and ethnically cleansing them, for a century." Maybe unintentional bias, but considering how he criticized AOC for an "uninformed" comment about Israel/Palestine, I would expect him to be more precise. As I said, above, Ze'ev fully acknowledged that Zionism is colonialism. After that point, the colonialists can never really be the "victim". Natives would never be attacking them, if they hadn't done the colonialism, in the first place. On top of the colonialism, Israel was founded on terrorism, by groups like the Irgun and Lehi. They killed a bunch of Palestinian civilians, including children, even including Palestinian Jews (who didn't support Zionism). Israelis elected a terrorist, Menachem Begin, who led the Irgun and bombed the King David Hotel. Israel merged those terrorist groups into their new national military/intelligence. Israelis, to this day, celebrate those terrorists as "heroes". Israel literally taught their neighbours that terrorism is a valid path to independence and statehood, and that terrorists are heroes. Making out like Hamas is "pure evil", without ever mentioning that Israel was founded on similarly "pure evil", and had a "pure evil" PM, is a bias. Even now, Netanyahu has a terrorist in charge of the West Bank. He was previously arrested on his way to bomb a highway out of Gaza, to block the withdrawal of settlers there. He's a racist, who has said that "Palestinian" people don't exist. He's an ultra Orthodox nutjob, who equates homosexuality with bestiality. Plus, he's a genocidal maniac, who made public a plan to segregate and subjugate (no federal representation), exile, or kill, any non Jews, in all Israel/Palestine. Casually mentioning , now and then, that Israel is an "apartheid state", doesn't get to the true depths of how horrible it is. These are Jewish people that are running an open air WWII style fascist ghetto. It is insanely ghastly, that they've become the thing they fled from. Again, not sure if I'd go as far as saying David is himself a Zionist, but he does show an abnormal bias, when it comes to Israel. Not very objective.
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