Comments by "John Brereton" (@johnbrereton5229) on "Celtic History Decoded" channel.

  1. That is actually not true about Cheddar Mans skin colouring. The leading genetist on the programme said that the dna extracted was not suficient to determine skin colour and the decision to go for the darkest possible was not actualy backed up by facts, it was more political. Much like the recent book on the 7th century King Offa of Mercia that claims he was a black African, and the recent film and books depicting King George III wife Queen Charlotte also as a black African. Let alone the new Netflix dicumentary of Cleopatra also as a black African which the Egyption Government is actually sueing Netflix over.
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  2. Thanks for a very interesting video which shows that our roots are deep here in England. In fact, right back to the end of the ice age.
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  3. ​ @DorchesterMom  Yes perhaps, but it's only a vociferous minority that do, the vast majority all get on fine. That's because In reality here on the British isles, we are all related to one another in one way or another.
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  4.  @Jezza-m5k  Latest research suggests their were earlier germanic speakers here in Britain even before the Roman invasion. Julius Caesar first landed in 55bc chasing the fleeing Belgea from Gaul who he found were well established in southern Britain. It has been suggested that both the Belgae and the Iceni from what is now Essex spoke a Germanic tongue too. Also the dna results were the work of the renowned Oxford University and the Max Plank institute, so I think we can trust what they claim. Though, no doubt this will continue to be a controversial topic for some time to come as people have firm views that are not easy to change.
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  5.  @Jezza-m5k  Yes true, however those later English are also descended from the original Celts, as the video revealed the English are 10% to 40% Anglo Saxon. Therefore that means they are majority Celtic, with 90% to 60% of the previous populations DNA. That previous population includes the pre Celtic Hunter Gatherers who lived here at the end of the ice age, 10,000 years ago. It might also include Neanderthal DNA who we know lived here around 400,000 years ago. We know we do have Neanderthal DNA, but whether we inherited from those here or further afield is not known, but its an intriguing thought.
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  6. Yes that's true Malcolm, in fact I've recently been reading some papers that say when Julius Caesar first invaded he was chasing the Belgae people from Gaul who had escaped to Britain where they had well established kin across southern England. The Belgae, though a Celtic tribe also apparently spoke a Germanic tongue. Also another paper suggests that the famous Iceni people (Boudicaa) also spoke germanic. So it seems a proto English language is far older here than was first thought and would help to explain why we changed to speaking English after the Roman's left so easily.
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  7.  @DorchesterMom  As the English are the largest nation on these islands they often get blamed for any disasters . However, the reality is not always what the precieved wisdom claims it to be and the two events you mentioned are prime examples of this.
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  8. I thought he made that quite clear from the start, but he can't keep changing the name he is calling the region, it would be confusing.
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  9.  @celtichistorydecoded  Look up New Scientist disclamer
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  10. ​​ @cymro6537  Evidence gathered by Professor Daphne Nash Briggs shows that the Iceni tribe of Boudicca fame spoke a Germanic tongue. Also in the 1st century BC when Cesar first came to Britain chasing the Belgae tribe he noticed that they were well established across southern Britain and that they also spoke a Germanic tongue. In fact, Hans Khun and Maurits Gysseling both independently proposed that an area in northwest Europe stretching out north from Belgium into the Netherlands and south into France. That in this area in prehistory they spoke a language that was neither Celti of Germanic but an in between the two. They called this area the Nordwestblock and these people had been migrating into Britain for centuries before the Roman's and this theory has never been disproved.
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  11. So are you 70% English then ?
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  12.  @GuerillaTVChannel  The Angles and the Saxons were descended from the Northern Germanic peoples, not from what is now Germany. However, both the Germanic peoples and the Celts (Britons) were both descended from Indo Europeans.
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  13. ​​What language did ancient Britains speak ? It has long been known that people migrated over from Europe across Doggerland before we were seperated from the continent and continued to do so afterwards. But what language did these people speak ? Evidence gathered by Professor Daphne Nash Briggs shows that the Iceni tribe of Boudicca fame spoke a Germanic tongue. Also in the 1st century 55 BC when Caesar first came to Britain chasing the Belgae tribe he noticed that they were well established across southern Britain and that they also spoke a Germanic tongue. In fact, Hans Khun and Maurits Gysseling both independently proposed that an area in northwest Europe stretching out north from Belgium into the Netherlands and south into France. That in this area in prehistory they spoke a language that was neither Celtic or Germanic but a language in between the two. They called this area the Nordwestblock and these people had been migrating into Britain for centuries before the Roman's and this theory has never been disproved.
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  14. That's very interesting, how does one go about loading your DNA onto that site ?
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  15. @cymro6537  According to the research the Iceni spoke a germanic tongue and the name Boudicca was given to her long after her death.
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  16. @cymro6537  What we call the Iceni never left any written evidence of the language that they spoke accept on their coins. Proffessor Daphne Nash-Briggs has made a detailed analysis of these coins and they don't say Iceni, they have various versions from ANTED to ECEN and she came to the conclusion that they dont make sense in Celtic, but they do in Germanic.
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  17. ​ @noeldoyle4501  I have an Italian friend from Venice and when she was living in London many people thought that she was Irish as she had dark gingerish hair and couldnt pronounce the th sound properly. I'm sure you would have assumed that she was Irish too.
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  18.  @realitywins9020  Not actually Welsh speaking, Brythonic speaking.
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  19.  @johnpatrick5307  Though they all developed from Brythonic they had regional differences Cumbrian was different to Welsh, as was Cornish. In fact Brythonic, is as different to Welsh as Old English is to English.
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  20. ​ @michaelking1091  No there is no Latin, only in the language not in the dna.
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  21.  @jimjones-bk2is  Well this video is about the origins of the English here on this island and they carry the DNA from the Hunter Gatherers who lived here 10,000 years ago. Therefore that's a good starting point. However it's very difficult to look back much further than the ice age as no one was living here much before then and we are talking about a very long time period.
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  22. ​ @TheEggmaniac  A recent genetic report from the Wellcome and the Max Planck institutes showed that even the English are 70% Celtic falling to 62% in East Anglia. Which has led to the idea that the ancient Britons were not wiped out by the so called Anglo Saxons but obsorbed by them into one people we now know as the English. They also discovered that we are more similar to modern Dutch and Danes and the Angles of course came from what is now Denmark.
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  23.  @iainmc9859  Ery oon is fae ootsid ta Roman Empire
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  24. @kubhlaikhan  Well most people consider the Frank's were a germanic people as the came from beyond the Rhine in germania inferior. I agree that language and culture can change rather than people, just look at all the people around the world who speak English and wear western cloths but have never left their country.
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  25.  @johnpatrick5307  The neolithic Anatolian farmers or Beaker people arrived in Britain around 4,000 years BC, it was they who built Stonehenge. It was the so called 'Celts' ,who were in fact not a people, but a language group, who arrived here around 1000 BC from central Europe from the area now known as Germany, Austria and Switzerland replacing the previous peoples. It's not known if they first brought the Celtic language to Briton, or if it was already spoken here.
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  26. The trouble with removing one part of history is where do you start, and where do you stop ? What about the Celts arriving from Europe , the Irish Scotti from Ireland etc. However, if we just confine it to the Anglo Saxons if they didn't come, the Danes would still have landed and probably taken over the whole country and as the Angles who became the English came from Denmark in the first place, would it have made much difference? Who really knows, thoughts fun to speculate .
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  27. @Chris-mf1rm  Yes, 55BC in the 1st century.
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  28.  @jimjones-bk2is  The video is about English DNA, anyone who came later has a different story and different DNA. Unless of course they married into an English family, then they would have a connection to the same roots.
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  29.  @jimjones-bk2is  England as a country was founded in 972 so is older than France, Spain and Germany so it's not that recent. Previously the land was uninhabitable due to the ice age and so wasn't permanently settled until after the ice receeded 10,000 years ago. However the dna of these early settlers is still carried by the modern day English, so they are the earliest ancestors of the English.
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  30. @jimjones-bk2is  1066 was not the start of the English, that was the Norman invasion. The English had been here for far longer than that.
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  31.  @Joanna-il2ur  I'm not your 'son' I'm actually older than you are, as if that makes any difference. I just assumed from your rather aggressive and vulgar attitude that you were only a naive uncouth youth. However, you seem to have avoided a courteous and well mannered upbringing. Nevertheless, I don't get my information from Wikipedia I leave that to you. In Britain Gravelkind was only practised in Kent and Wales, in the rest of England inheritance was by primogeniture. I didnt come here for an argument like you obviously did, so I wont respond to you any further.
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  32. The narrator is Scottish as is his accent and probably from the Glasgow area.
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  33. ​ @GuerillaTVChannel  He has done it to make it easier to understand what he is talking about. Also 'ancient England' wouldn't be ancient Germany, as you suggest, England is arguable older than Germany.
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  34. @cymro6537  Read the research of Nash- Briggs she the expert and her very thorough research concluded its Germanic.
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  35. @cymro6537  So you think you know more than a Proffessor who has actually studied the subject intensively? Also it would certainly explain the rapid cultural take over by the Anglosaxons because Germanic speakers were already here before the Roman's just as Caesar said I the 1st century BC.
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  36. @kubhlaikhan  Thanks, I'm glad you found it interesting, it seems germanic speakers were already here and that's why it changed so easily, unlike in Gaul when the germanic Frank's took over, yet there the language remained Latin based. Also I believe the name Boudicca was given to her later and comes from the Brythonic word boudi, which means "victory" or "win". The suffix -kā means having, so her name means having Victory. If you Google the names in my comment you will find the information.
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  37.  @kubhlaikhan  Yes, I agree ! There is no evidence for the invasion theory. All the evidence points to a slow transition and development of what was already here.
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  38.  @michaelcave6581  Of course the Brythonic peoples left there influence here in Britain, and not just on the western coasts. Even the famous 'Anglo Saxon' house of Wessex, that the famous 'Saxon', King Alfred the Great was descended from, was actualy started by a long line of Celts starting with Cerdic. As did that other powerful 'Anglosaxon' dynasty of Mercia, where their King Penda also has a Brythonic name. So it seems that the history of Britain is far more complex than just an Anglosaxon conquest.
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  39.  @johnpatrick5307  Anatolian's like the Celts were both indo Europeans.
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  40.  @johnpatrick5307  Well, your opinion is at odds with all the expert's and published studies on the subject.
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  41.  @paulmattsson2878  If you ask was Cheddar Man black online there is a scientific report on Quora where a scientist claims he peer reviewed the dna results and they are nonsense. He also actually down loads all the genetic data from the Nat History Museum and shows just how fraudulent it is. He even uses their methodology on his own dna and it produces a completely false result. Another similar case was Beachy head lady, where 'experts' claimed was also the earliest black African in Britain. They even built a bust of her, not unlike Cheddar man. Unfortunately DNA tests by other scientists proved that she was actualy born in Kent and was not African at all, her bust then disappeared without any explanation.
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  42.  @Jezza-m5k  Yes exactly, in fact many graves with germanic grave goods were assumed to contain Anglosaxons. However, the discovery of DNA opened a window into the past and showed that they actually contained Celtic people. It's like assuming you are American if you were found in your grave clutching a coke tin and wearing Levi Jean's.
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  43. @Æthelwulf-y9h What's not ?
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  44.  @michaelking1091  The original commentator was talking about English genetics, not Italian. Therefore I think his description of Celtic/Germanic is quite accurate. Your comment claimed their was Latin dna present too, but there isnt, the Romans left no DNA in England only their language.
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  45.  @michaelking1091  Im aware of the claims by Wilson's & Blackett . However, neither Wilson or Blackett are qualified historians, Wilson is a retired Shipping expert and Blackett a retired businessman. No one takes them seriously, they are more akin to work of fantasy, than historical research. Personally, I'm open to questioning established opinions but they need to have sound research to justify it, unfortunately Wilson & Blackett don't.
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  46.  @michaelking1091  No it's a appeal for facts, not authority. When I first came across Wilson and Blackett I really thought they had uncovered some very interesting and groundbreaking facts. However, the more I read the more cracks started to appear in their work, so I dug deeper and found I wasn't the only one who had come to this conclusion. You can even find some exposeś here online. As I said previously, I'm quite open to hearing theories that are not mainstream, but they have to be credible and backed up by proper factual references, not bias wishful thinking.
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  47. @Æthelwulf-y9h I deny nothing, you are misguided.
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  48.  @careytitan9097  Yes, but these were made by pre modern humans as are the 500,000 year old remains of homo heidelbergensis found in Boxgrove Sussex. However, 350,000 years ago Neanderthals also lived here and remains in Ebbsfleet Kent have been dated to around 250,000 years ago and we do carry their DNA, so perhaps we could claim to descent from them. Nevertheless, the 10,000 year old dna of modern homo sapien hunter Gatherers like Cheddar man is definitel still carried by us, and as we are the same species that's where our origins are traced.
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  49.  @careytitan9097  The footprints in Norfolk were made by homo Heidelbergensis, not Homo sapiens our ancestors.
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  50.  @jimjones-bk2is  The Norman's had quite an impact, however our language law system and culture, let alone our DNA are far more English than Norman. The Norman's left very little dna.
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