Comments by "John Brereton" (@johnbrereton5229) on "Montgomery vs Eisenhower on Operation Market Garden's True Purpose | History Debate" video.

@bigwoody4704 Patton was well overrated and would have been convicted of war crimes if he hadn't conveniently been killed. Also, the ex Nazi Generals were always praising the Americans after the war, it paid off well.
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@bigwoody4704 Bullshit ! Montys first encounter with Rommell was at Alam Halfa when Rommell had already been resupplied and Monty hadn't. Therefore, Rommell attacked with 6 divisions to Montys 4 but it didnt make any difference because Monty still won and the Americans were thousands of miles away in Morrocco. Yet Monty won every other battle for thousands of miles across North Africa until the whole Afrika Corp surrendered after the battle of Tunis where the Americans were.Though they hadn't exactly covered themselves in glory after Kasserine. It interesting that its claimed that Monty only won because of Ultra, yet when Rommell was winning it was because he was a brilliant General. Yet nothing is said about the leaked British reports he was recieving from 'the most vilolent anglophobe' the American attaché in Egypt, Bonner Feller, or 'little Feller' as Rommell affectionately called him.
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@bigwoody4704 You obviously have a built in hatred for Montgomery and nothing I will say will change that. But my own father fought alongside him in Belgium and France and was one of those lucky enough to escape at Dunkirk aged 20. He then served with him in North Africa, Sicily and then into Italy, he had nothing but praise for him as did the majority of those who actual served with him. And let not forget, he was the one chosen to led the Allies in all these campaigns including DDay so he couldn't had been as bad as you like to claim. However, I dare say you are an American, and not many Americans have a good word to say about him, perhaps it's just jealousy, but then you think Patton was a good General, enough said.
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@bigwoody4704 You've been watching too many Hollywood films Woody ! That's where the Patton myth was made, not on the battlefield, where the reality was far different. Palermo was of no strategic importance at all and Patton was supposed to be protecting Montys Left flank. But instead he was off on a romp to Palermo and when Monty saw an opportunity for Patton to trap the retreating Germans he was fighting, Patton ignored the message and went in the opposite direction instead, setting him self up in the Norman palace in Palermo and the opportunity was lost. As to Messina Patton forces were on the east coast where the only open road to Messina ran. While Monty was on the opposite coast fighting the crack German troops who were destroying the Bridges and roads as they retreated. So again, Monty told Patton to take the clear road and get to Messina quickly which the Americans did, but Patton halted them outside the town and told them not to enter untill he got there, he then arrived and made his triumphant entry and proclaimed he had had 'won the race to Messina'. However, there was no race, Monty had told him to take it, because he had the only clear road with no opposition and yet despite that he only entered Messina 20mins before the Brits who had fought a hard fight all up the coast against the crack German troops. Pattons fame is built on a myth that doesn't fit the actualy facts, Truscott was a far better American General, but then no one made a Hollywood film about him. At the end of the Sicily campaign Eisenhower awarded Montgomery the highest American military award that can be stowed upon a foreign soldier, while Patton was relieved of duty and sent back behind the lines in disgrace. Therefore, the actual facts paint a far different story than Hollywood. George. C. Scott was a far better actor than Patton was a General.
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@bigwoody4704 Instead of disputing any of my valid points Woody, you just attack the British. However, Dunkirk was a successful withdrawal after the Dutch, Belgiums and French were all beaten. In 1943 the Germans were not so lucky in Tunisia where 275,000 couldn't escape and so were forced to surrendered to the British. Thats more than the 90,000 who surrendered to the Russians at Stalingrad. Or the 1million who were forced to surrender to Alexander in Italy. Yet in Italy they were on land, which makes the retreat from Dunkirk across the 20miles of English channel all the more remarkable. If the British had not been successful they could not have gone on to beat the Luftwaffe at the Battle of Britain and then stand alone against the Nazis for 3 years. Instead, if they had been invaded in 1940, the Nazis could have easily won WW2 because there would have been no one to stop them. There were far better American generals like Bradley and Truscott, however Patton was not one of them and I notice you have given up trying to defend him, because the facts speak for themselves.
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