Comments by "John Brereton" (@johnbrereton5229) on "Irish History Podcast" channel.

@Adaman368 As I said, if it's true that the population reached 8million it was an outlier that only happened under the golden age of British rule. Under the 50 years of rule by the EU dictatorship it's never reached such dizzying heights. However, with the EU imposed immigration rules Ireland might finally return to 8million. Only they wont be Irish .
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@emcc8598 I'm English , but I have deep Irish roots. Just like many English people do, we are after all, one people. Though Irish nationalists like to create devisions to justify their racist hatred. England has been invaded many times by various peoples but we don't hate their descendents like the Irish do. In the 11th century the Norman's committed the brutal 'Harrowing of the North' which was an actual genocide. Nevertheless, we don't still bear a grudge on their descendents or invent other atrocities to justify racism against them. It was the same Norman's who invaded Ireland too, but you prefer to blame the English. Also I was referring to the Jews, not the Poles. More Poles fought for the N4azis than fought against them. However, the persecuted Jews didn't rush back to Germany like the Irish did to England, proof if ever there was that they never hated us, as you and others like to claim.
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@Adaman368 No, not denial , actual facts !
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@emcc8598 Ireland still hasn't recovered its British era population and that's after 50 years of EU dictatorship rule. But don't worry, the rate your EU masters are sending over immigrants you'll soon be full to bursting.
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@Adaman368 Deny reality and invent fiction , what's new !
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@emcc8598 Only in one year 1844 did they reach 8.4 million before falling back to 4.5million. Therefore, if you believe that 8.4 million figure you also have to accept it was only under British rule. Because after 100 years of independence and 50 years of EU membership it has NEVER reached that figure before or since. The latest population figures of ireland are 7million but 24% of that is because of Immigration only 76% of them (5 million) are actually Irish. Also as I, said more Poles fought FOR the N4zis than fought against them, so of course they didn't mind moving there after WW2. However, during WW2 many irish men fought for Britain even deserting from the neutral Irish Republican Army to do it, a strange thing to do if they really hated them as you claim.
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@emcc8598 No, 200,000 joined the British forces alone, and as I said many deserted the neutral Irish army to do it. A strange thing to do if you hate the British, as is 6milliom of Irish descent who live in Britain. It seems nothing you say adds up either mathematically, or logically. Perhaps that's because something else is influencing your conclusions, racism !
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@emcc8598 5,000 Irish soldiers deserted the Irish army to fight in British forces and when they returned they were stripped of all their pension rights and black listed from employment. There are many tales of suffering due to these 'starvation policies' tales of children living in a slice of bread a day to survive as their families were forced to move from slum to slum trying to scrape a meager living. It wasn't untill 2013 that the Irish Government apologised and offered compensation, but by this time many were dead.
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@Adaman368 Pardoned after they and their innocent children were persecuted and starved for 70 years.
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@emcc8598 British deserters were given an amnesty in 1953 by Winston Churchill, Irish deserters had to wait 70 years until 2013 for theirs from the Irish Government.
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@emcc8598 That's probably because the 'ethnic cleansing' is either exaggerated or didn't happen. Why would so many Irish men volunteer to fight for Britiain for centuries, if this was really the case ?
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@Adaman368 I don't claim to know more history than historians, I'm just repeating historical facts, not those that have been twisted by Irish nationalist to further their cause. The colonisation of Ireland started with the Normans who had already colonised England. The 'Irish Potatoe Famine' was in reality European wide. Its known as the Hungry Forties and affected all Europe, even Britain. I've seen videos here on YouTube thanking American indians for sending them grain during the crisis. Yet Britain gave far more help, both Government led and private charities, the biggest one raised £52million which they distributed to the Irish poor. Yet the British are never thanked, they are accused of purposefully starving the Irish instead, despite much evidence to the contrary. Across the world many countries have suffered real abuses and far worse than the Irish, yet don't carry a grudge for centuries. So perhaps it's time this hostility was finally buried, and we learn to get on, we have far more in common than many will admit.
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@Adaman368 King Henry II was a Norman Angevin King who only spoke French not English. He was the most powerful King in Europe who was not only King of England, Ireland Scotland and Wales but also more of France than the French King. Despite all this you like to think he is English, not Norman French. I suppose it's your anti English bigotry that only believes what you want to believe. You obviously need help.
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@Adaman368 More exaggerated fact free anti British racism. There appears to be no point trying to have a conversation with such a racist bigot as you obviously are. As I said previously you need psychiatric help.
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@emcc8598 William the Conqueror took the English crown by force. He was related to Edward the Confessor who was half Norman because his mother was Emma of Normandy a relative of King William. I notice you are prepared to accept that Henry II was King of England by Conquest, but you won't accept he was King of Ireland by conquest ? 😁
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@Adaman368 No he wasn't crowned but he did rule Ireland . After his invasion he accepted the submissions of many important Irish Kings across Ireland like Mac Carthaigh, Mór Ua Brianin as well as the Gaelic Kings of Leinster etc etc etc . Many of these rulers were Anglo Normans who had now become Irish, but do you accept them as Irish as you so readily accept the Norman's as English ? Henry II, though King of England was born in France and died in France. His father was the Count of Anjou and he didn't even speak English, so how English was he ?
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@emcc8598 Exactly the same could be said about the Irish. No country is pure bred they are all an amalgam of different peoples. However, the English were one of the earliest countries to form under one Kingdom.
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@Adaman368 I said they weren't English at this time, they became English later. Henry II though King of England was born in France the son of the French Count of Anjou and even died in France, how was he in anyway English ?
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@emcc8598 Ha ! Surely it's the Irish who claim to be of pure stock unrelated to anyone else, not the English !
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@ALavin-en1kr Thanks ALavin, so the Irish are the new Jews are they ? You certainly have a great imagination. I'm English, but like many English people I have deep Irish roots, in fact there are more people of Irish descent in England than there are in Ireland itself. I wonder why they all moved to live in the country of their oppressors????? Answer = what you claim is all bullshit !
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@ALavin-en1kr Oh Alavin, your maths is as accurate as your history lesson. 700 centuries is 70,000 years ?????? Yet Ireland was under ice then and the concept of a united Ireland was only ever concocted in the 8th century AD. Queen Elizabeth I. was behind setting up Dublin University and Trinity Colledge in 1592, so how exactly were you denied education ? Also the laws in Ireland were exactly the same as in Britain and throughout the Empire, so how exactly were you denied education and human rights ??????
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Some Irish nationalist have a rather racist attitude to the English who they blame for all their problems despite being a free self governing country for over 100 years. Yet these same 'Englishmen' who they complain owned all the landed estates in Ireland also owned most of the land in England and were in fact descended from the Norman Invaders there. In fact 75% of land in England is STILL owned by them even today. Though many of the great landed estates in Ireland owned by Protestant absentees were in Ulster and the east of Ireland and not all of these men were grasping landlords. For example, the Marquess of Rockingham who owned vast estates in Wicklow - was a caring man who did his best for his Irish tenants. However, in contrast the Norman's who invaded England really did commit genocide, during the 'Harrowing of the North' they murdered all males, including male children and destroyed their homes and villages, burnt their crops and salted the land making it infertile. This led to the remaining 25% left alive now homeless and starving desperatly searching for food and shelter during a bitter winter. Contemporary writer, John of Worcester, reported that food was so scarce that people were reduced to eating not just horses, dogs and cats but also the human flesh or their dying countrymen. Nothing like this happened in Ireland, in contrast they were given £millions by both the British Government and by British Charities. While in England in the 12th century there was no help at all and this led to hundreds of thousands of deaths of the remaining families in a larger proportion of the total English population of only 2million than in Ireland during the Hungry Forties. This left the North of England in particular a desolate unpopulated wilderness which took generations to recover. Yet despite such brutality and a real intended genocide you don't hear the English still whingeing about it hundreds of years later.
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@alantentevier4018 Yes, of course !
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@niamhmacmahon3670 Anti British Racist nonsense, not supported by the facts.
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