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Exactly. This is a dangerous device with no application in fire rescue. If you need to put a car in park, do it the same way you do on ALL vehicles, with the gear selector and parking brake. There's nothing magical about an EV here, the same techniques used to prevent any other vehicle rolling away work on EVs If you need to disable an EV, so you can work on it safely, cut the firefighter cut loop. Do not rely on a device that relies on tricking the vehicle into keeping the HV pack energized to give you any form of safety! There is NEVER a situation where this device is appropriate for a fire/rescue situation. The only applications I can see for this have been covered by others: Car jackings, and police traffic stops. Not fire rescue.
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Exactly. This sales pitch is for an extremely dangerous device that will force the vehicle to keep the HV pack energized when otherwise it would shut it down. This device does the same thing as putting the vehicle in park, that's all. If you want to disable an EV, cut the firefighter cut loop. That will make it safe.
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Not one of these vehicles even has a transmission. So "jamming the transmission in park" is actually just applying a brake. As for the tool itself, no it serves no useful purpose. This is just a sales pitch for a useless and potentially dangerous tool.
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2015 Tesla, but not 2016 or later.
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@TheMrLeast Well that's about the biggest stretch I've seen in logic here so far....
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@economicprisoner Then put it in park the same way you do with ALL other vehicles on the road today. Emergency responders have been safely putting vehicles in park and cutting power for many decades without this device. I note that every single response in this thread from actual emergency responders have agreed that there is no point to this device, and yet some people in here have been doing all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify it.
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It doesn't. This is just an ad for a likely extremely overpriced gizmo with no useful purpose.
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In this case the vehicle will connect the HV pack to attempt to charge, whereas it otherwise would be disabled. This device does nothing other than put the vehicle in park if it wasn't already, and ensure that the normal safety feature of isolating the HV pack when the car is off does not activate ensuring high voltage power is available to electrocute your first responder. As a first responder myself, and an EV driver, I would NEVER use this device.
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@davidck1 I am an emergency responder, and an EV driver. This device serves zero useful purpose. We've had ways of safely putting vehicles in park for many decades now, and there is nothing different about an EV here. The proper emergency procedure for ALL vehicles is: 1) put vehicle in park 2) chock the wheels 3) disconnect 12V battery. Works in both EVs and internal combustion vehicles to both stabilize them, and de-energize them. This device might accomplish 1, but so does pushing the park button. and you won't trust it until both 2 and 3 are accomplished anyway. Additionally, if there's any damage to the vehicle, (which is highly likely if we're trying to work on it in the first place!) you can't trust that the computer and all wiring connections, are working properly to follow the charging procedure to put it in park, so you can't even trust it to properly do 1
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@davidck1 if there's no vehicle damage, just put it in park the way you would any other vehicle. There's nothing EV specific about that process, and any gasoline powered vehicle presents exactly the same challenge. If there is vehicle damage, then you can't trust this thing will work anyway, so existing methods are safer. Either way there is no reason to use this.
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@davidck1 which is not at all ev specific. Engine start/stop technology has been around for quite a while. And it doesn't matter what the vehicle is, you will never trust it when it is only in park. No vehicle is considered safe until it is in park, chocked and blocked, and de-energized. This only does the first of those three, unreliably in the case of vehicle damage, and no better than existing procedures on every other vehicle out there. In short this device has no useful purpose whatsoever. And as an emergency responder I would never under any circumstances use it.
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@morilot 100% nonsense. Firefighters have been safely putting cars in park for many decades now without the ability to plug some magic device into the exterior. There's nothing at all special about an EV in this regard. This device provides zero value, and may cause harm if anyone actually believes that it provides any safety whatsoever.
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No. EVs go into park the same way as all other vehicles. And all this device does it put the vehicle in park, so no, this doesn't solve any actual problem.
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Well, it can't be used for any good purpose, so....
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As a first responder, and EV driver, myself, I say your statement is complete nonsense. We've been safely putting vehicles in park for many decades without the ability to plug some device into a port on the outside to do it for us. There is absolutely nothing different about an EV in this regard. The only thing this device does is put a vehicle in park, nothing else. To safely work on the vehicle you still have to cut the firefighter cut loop.
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@mickjoebills you don't know your vehicle. In your EV, disconnecting 12v power will kill the HV pack, this device will not. Dark screens are not just a problem on EVs either, modern gas vehicles are the same, and with engine start/stop functionality can restart at any moment. No vehicle is safe until it is in park, blocked and chocked, and de-energised. This device only does the first of those, unreliably in a damaged vehicle, and not in any better way than existing techniques used on all vehicles for the past many decades. So no, I wouldn't feel safer using one of these in the scenario you give.
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@mickjoebills not only do not understand EVs, you very definitely do not understand emergency response. I am an emergency responder. I would never under any circumstances use this device. It serves no useful purpose, and is dangerous if you assume that it does more than it does, which it implies heavily in the marketing. The end result is this device is dangerous in the wrong hands, and useless in the right ones.
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This isn't dangerous to criminals. It's dangerous to any firefighter who thinks this will provide any safety. This does not de-energize the vehicle, all it does is put it in park, and you can just as easily put the vehicle in park the same way you do on every other car on the road, there's nothing special about EVs here. If you need to work on an EV you cut the firefighter cut loop, you don't just put it in park.
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@davidck1 which makes it completely useless. Emergency personnel have many decades of experience safely putting vehicles in park. There is absolutely nothing EV specific in that process. The only EV specific part is cutting power, and arguably that's not even any different than the way emergency personnel are already trained to disconnect the 12v battery on internal combustion vehicles.
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There's no transmission on these EVs, so no parking pawl, instead they use a parking brake (On the Tesla it's an extra caliper on the rear brake rotors)
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@toronado455 slam on the brakes in any vehicle, and you'll see that same rocking. It comes from the suspension.
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