Comments by "" (@Green__one) on "Louis Rossmann" channel.

Our problem at the moment is not open source software, it's open source hardware. Or the complete lack thereof. Show me the open source car, it doesn't exist. Even open source phones mean you're working with essentially a 10-year-old device. My home computer uses open source software, as does my entire home automation system. But my phone is a Samsung, and my car is a Tesla. I can 100% guarantee I will never buy a Tesla again, however as much as I would like not to buy Samsung again, their hardware does tend to be the best, and the alternatives while being much worse in the hardware department, are only very marginally better in the software department. And this is the problem with the world we live in right now. If you want modern capabilities, you give up any ownership of the product. We shouldn't have to choose between those things, but at the moment, we do.
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Many manufacturers are fighting their customers on right to repair, but none are in the all-out war that Tesla is. Tesla wants to make sure that only Tesla can do anything on their vehicles. A large portion of the software updates since I bought my car have been done with an eye towards locking users out when they find a way in to repair.
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Tesla is the poster child for removing features after purchase. My car is a shadow of its former self. It is one of the reasons why I will never under any circumstances consider purchasing a Tesla again in the future.
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Usually when you buy them new you aren't signing any agreement that allows them to remove paid for functionality after the fact. Unfortunately they know that it costs way too much to sue them, and usually they have language in their paperwork that forces you to mediation anyway. Tesla has removed many features from my car since I purchased it, but when I've called them out on it, their answer has been so sue us. I don't know that I can really afford the time, money, and effort to sue them about a feature they removed. And even if I win, I won't get the feature back, at best I'll get a pittance of cash that won't even cover my time to go to court.
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Teslas are the single most locked down vehicle in the industry. They do not have Android Auto, they do not have CarPlay. They do not have any way for the end user to make any changes whatsoever. They do not have any way for anyone other than Tesla themselves to do any repairs whatsoever. And anytime someone finds any way around that, the next software update blocks that work around. Software updates are 100% mandatory, and cannot be avoided. Most software updates remove functionality that already existed.
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@Krishell that is how they usually treat their customers, yes.
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It's been jailbroken many times, and yes it is Ubuntu. However every time a jailbreak is found the next 100% mandatory software update blocks it. That's why people don't release their jailbreaks, because they know if they do Tesla will block it immediately.
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Tesla has been the poster child for warnings about the future of software defined vehicles. On their website they talk about the great software updates that you will continue get, what they don't tell you is that 98% of those software updates remove functionality you already had and paid for rather than adding new functionality. My car gets worse with every update, but they make it impossible to stop updating. I will never buy another tesla again as long as I shall live, and it really gives me pause about anyone else pursuing the same business model.
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Unfortunately, you very quickly run out of any products or services to buy. This isn't exactly limited to one or two companies!
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@safersephiroth943 you obviously have no clue the scale difference between the minuscule amount of power that on board systems use versus the massive scale of electricity being put in for propulsion. The time difference with every single system in the car being used versus the car sitting idle while you charge is effectively zero. Some quick numbers, driving averages about 30,000 watts. The infotainment unit is probably less than 100 watts, and the chargers on road trips put out between 50,000 and 250,000 watts.
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@safersephiroth943 let me guess, you're the guy railing against daytime running lights because you think they hurt your fuel economy, right?
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I tried connecting my Tesla to a Wi-Fi hotspot, it did not return the features that Tesla has removed after purchase.
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Embrace, extend, extinguish. By saying that they support right to repair, and then in the fine print doing the opposite, they help redefine the term right to repair. This is classic business practice, by claiming to embrace something, you can work to redefine the word to be whatever you want. In North America we allow corporations to rewrite the dictionary all the time. Pretty soon the term right to repair will mean that you are allowed to go to a factory authorized repair center where they are allowed to replace entire assemblies and charge you as much as the device is worth.
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The problem with this model, is the whole idea of being able to see the tip before providing the service. There has never been, and never will be, a situation where I will tip someone before receiving the service. Tips are reward for good service. I have no way of evaluating the service before I have received it, and therefore no way of setting the value of the tip. My response to that driver, would have been to say that yes, there was going to be a cash tip, however the service that he is provided does not warrant one.
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@jessicav2031 while true, Tesla got around this by slowly removing features over time if you didn't update. First they refused any maintenance on the vehicle, remember that they are the only people who can do maintenance on the vehicle because they refuse to authorize anyone else to use the software, and refuse to sell many of the parts. Next, they removed the streaming audio, access to the app, and updates to the map, this wouldn't have been such a big deal if they allowed you to use your phone for those things, but of course there's no Android auto in their cars. When all of that didn't convince me to update my software to a version where they had crippled certain frequently used features, they threatened to remove all access to DC fast charging, and not just from their own supercharger network, but from all DC chargers. That's when I gave in and installed their update that removed many features. What their next pain point would have been? Undoubtedly bricking the car completely. You don't own your car. They do, and they are not about to give up that ownership.
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@LoudmouthTrucking only old ones. If you want anything made in the last decade or 2 you're out of luck.
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Except all the features the Tesla has removed since I originally purchased my car.
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@MyReviews_FOSS for Tesla there practically are not. The car nags you every single time you get in the car when there is an update. If you refuse to install it for a long enough period of time Tesla starts refusing to service your vehicle. Remember that Tesla are the only people that are capable of servicing the vehicles because they refuse to allow access to the software for anyone else, they also block parts for third party shops. If you still don't update the software after that, they take away all connected services, the app, mapping, streaming audio. If you still don't update they threaten to take away access to all DC fast charging (not just the supercharger network!) That's as far as I got before I caved and downgraded my software to their latest version. Tesla are very adamant about this. They are 100% clear that you do not own any part of the vehicle. It is theirs, and theirs alone. They will do with it as they see fit, and you are not to have any say in the matter.
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And now shrinkflation has come to digital goods too.
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I just used esp home on an esp8266 connected to a relay across the button and 2 magnetic door sensors (open and closed). Works great, total cost was under $10 and there's no cloud to be shut down.
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@Tschacki_Quacki It's a very long list, but let's start with the fact that they halved the speed of my supercharging through an over the air update. They removed hands-free autopilot. They removed the lowest suspension setting on the air suspension. They removed a few kilowatt hours of battery capacity through a software update. They removed the ability to use autopilot at any speed, now you are limited on many roads to 10 km an hour over whatever the car randomly guesses the speed limit to be, often half the real speed limit. On the map, they removed the ability to see when traffic is good, now you can only see when traffic is bad. This is an important distinction because there used to be a difference between no data, and good traffic, now they are the same. They also removed a lot of contrast from the map making it much harder see the difference in terrain unless you use the satellite view which is not feasible on older infotainment units. Along the same lines, they have slowed down the interface so much with updates as to make the original infotainment unit basically unusable to force you to upgrade that. They reduced the granularity of the power meter on the dash so as to hide the fact that they also reduced the maximum amount of regenerative braking. They moved many frequently used options so they are no longer a single touch, and are now multiple touches on the screen. They removed the ability to tile multiple apps on the screen, e.g. backup camera and energy use at the same time. They reduced the max fan speed. They removed the time remaining from the currently playing music track, they removed the ability to open the windows from the keyfob, And so many more it's hard to remember them all. And they have added... Podcasts to the music app... Woohoo... I dread every single software update, 99% of the time they make things worse.
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Charging stops on road trips. You have to sit there and wait while the vehicle charges, watching a video is a good way to pass the time. And the screen in the car is significantly bigger than the one on your phone.
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@safersephiroth943 you need to elaborate on that. Because 100 watts is pretty infinitesimal when compared to 250,000 Watts.
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Fined? No, you're the one who will be fined if you hack their chips to refill your cartridges. Remember, big companies write the laws, they aren't meant to benefit YOU.
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I'd argue even that is too much. That's how this all started and once again proved that "slippery slope" is NOT a logical fallacy. You want to be able to see how much ink is left? make the cartridges out of clear plastic. Done.
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If HP's printers are so poorly designed that they allow installation of software to the printer from an ink cartridge, it's not the cartridge that's the problem! it shouldn't have any software interface whatsoever! But really the big deal is, why on earth do I still need to print ANYTHING in 2024??? Why do so many companies still force me to print things for BS reasons???? I don't want to even have to own a printer, and yet, I still have to print things on occasion, and usually there's no good reason why I should have to print it at all.
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Excuse me? Tesla doesn't have any such thing as side loading. You have what you have, and that's it. There is no way to install, or uninstall, anything. This isn't like a phone with an app store. They choose what apps are on there and those are exactly the apps on there, no more no less, and no input from you.
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With inflation as it is right now, it doesn't surprise me at all when companies try to get more money out of us. The messaging here could really have been a whole lot less insulting though. Realistically, had they made the same decision, but implemented slightly differently, it wouldn't have seemed nearly as evil. Step one raise the price of the product. Step two wait for a minimum of six months. Step three introduce a lower price tier at the price you used to be but ad supported.
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