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@deuscoromat742 Sex is a normal part of human life. People that are poor are going to have a lot of sex, there's nothing you can do to stop or reduce this. No amount of preaching will change them. Don't force them to have children, for this creates a vicious cycle of child neglect, but you don't seem to care about that.
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Overturning Roe v. Wade was a greater evil and has caused greater suffering.
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Intimate relationships are normal and necessary. You are an example of what happens when people think they are not.
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Sorry, why won't abortion fix that problem? If you're feeling unfit to be a mom, the natural conclusion is don't be a mom; don't give birth. As for the courts, giving birth won't fix them either, but it will still cost you just as much. Take responsibility in the way that is right for you; whether that be abortion or abandonment.
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@deuscoromat742 What is the point of you even commenting as such?
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Do the same with childbirth. There's a lot more screaming.
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Yes, blessed be the starving, suffering masses.
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Condoms and birth control pills fail, just about everyone will have a birth control failure at some point in their lives. The developed world does not view abortion as "killing unborn children", this is an extremist viewpoint, and it is very rare. Protections for abortion at the federal level is standard throughout the developed world. People don't "have sex unprotected" and then resort to abortion, that's stupid and expensive. Let people take responsibility by aborting, or watch people do things that are even worse.
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You must be very well off and have a good life.
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@mathildeyoung1823 "Privacy" includes the right to personal and medical autonomy. Mathilde Young keeping her tongue is wrong and needs to be illegal.
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@mathildeyoung1823 That's your logic alone. We've been over this before, stop saying "by your logic", you've never ever been right.
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We don't live on farms anymore. Children don't pay for themselves, having lots of children is no longer an economically viable strategy. Are you anti-city?
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I hope you go to prison with Tate.
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I'm afraid your viewpoint does not apply to those that don't believe in your mythology.
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Abortion is a medical procedure, not violence. Forcing unwilling women to give birth against their will is gravely wrong.
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They're not mothers unless they choose motherhood.
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@mathildeyoung1823 There are other alternatives to abandon the toddler. There are no alternatives to prevent the fetus from causing harm to the woman.
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@mathildeyoung1823 Past fetal viability, yes. Prior to fetal viability, it has not attained homeostasis and is not alive. I will not be entertaining your strawmen. Thanks for your opinion, if abortion is illegal, turn your weapons upon the law and do as you please.
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@pupak7433 You can't fight hook-up culture, there's a class of people where that's all they live for and they have every right to do as they need to do. If they have to murder babies, they will. You're literally trying to "fight" people's ways of life, sounds like "NAZI" is a bit of a projection on your part, considering you're a fascist.
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@John-ls4xh When it comes to the woman's body, any bodies that are invading hers are subject to removal by deadly force. The line is drawn outside of the border of her flesh.
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@raidthefridge7837 No, there aren't.
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@mathildeyoung1823 Innocent human beings are not a part of someone else's medical decisions without their consent.
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@mathildeyoung1823 Choosing not to give birth is a medical decision.
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@MikeJProto Abortion isn't murder, and they have the right to choose not to abort.
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She's a responsible human being, unlike you. I live somewhere that's suffering the consequences of rapid breeding.
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Yes, force this struggle on impoverished children. Impoverish them forever.
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Contraception doesn't work once an unwanted pregnancy has occurred. That is why abortion will always be necessary. Stop making women's medical choices about you.
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Asking people not to have sex until they're capable of raising children is an absurd non-starter. Some people will not be able to raise children for their entire lifetime, some don't want them in their 20s. They don't need an excuse, they have the right to abort, because the alternative is discarding important parts of the human experience, which you cannot ask of anyone.
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@mathildeyoung1823 You don't seem to understand the concept of birth.
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@mathildeyoung1823 Fetuses are not human beings, Mathilde.
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@Chavez58677 I'll take BS for $500.
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@PaxMundi118 Keyword: forced. Consent is everything. Abortion is ending a pregnancy, preventing a human life from beginning in the first place. Morality changes depending on your circumstances.
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@PaxMundi118 "which was: destroying a defenseless human life is always wrong." This simply isn't true. You don't see exceptions because you don't have standards for human beings. Human beings should have a minimum expected quality of life, or no life at all. "It is obvious to any sane human person that sexual intercourse can, and does, lead to pregnancy" It is also obvious to any sane human person that sexual intercourse is necessary for one's growth and that pregnancy is not a reasonable consequence for something that human beings need. Unreasonable consequences motivate the average person to avoid them using any means necessary. "The disconnect in our society is that we are sold on the idea that we can have unlimited sex without consequences. " I'm afraid that disconnect is yours alone; you are not comfortable with abortion, and you don't have to get an abortion if you don't want to. Abortion is a reasonable consequence that we have the ability to choose. "The actual consequences include that women are used and abused for sex" This is not relevant to the topic of abortion. This isn't even relevant to the topic of sex, sexual assault is illegal and nothing makes it permissible.
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@PaxMundi118 I think you need to step back and take a look at where your opinion ends and where the priorities of other people begin. I'm really not interested in when life begins, if my life isn't worth living, a fetus is of zero concern to me. It clearly concerns you, or at the very least you're virtue signalling that it does. My number one priority is making sure that my life is good, call me selfish or whatever else you'd like, I still exist. If calling me names or pointing out how "evil" I am for wanting to live my life like a normal human being is some sort of victory to you, then all you've got is virtue signalling. Humans need intimacy. Love is a concept that is romanticized to us as children, and intimacy is a vital part of love. Unless you want to live in a China-like world (I definitely don't), drop the anti-sex rhetoric and accept that people don't want to live exactly the way you do.
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@PaxMundi118 The issue with "sound moral judgment" is that morality, for the vast majority of people, changes when they're the ones that is suffering. If you cannot eliminate society's problems, morality will remain forever in flux and you will be creating natural enemies so long as you wish to enforce your morality. Think about what it would be like if the fetus that became you was aborted. It's not something you would experience, life simply would never have started for you. I live somewhere that is already at capacity for humans, life is getting worse for us with each generation. My parents will not retire and I will not be able to retire. We will work until we can't, and then we will die. I can't take care of them. I can't afford care for them. Do you think being in my care would be better than being aborted? I don't think so; the concept of hell exists for a reason. Suffering is worse than death.
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@PaxMundi118 Suffering can be worse than death. Not everybody is motivated to continue living through hell and high water. Everyone can be broken.
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@PaxMundi118 Our world does not operate on such absolutes. If I am convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that my child will not leave a life that I would want to live, I will not have that child. I am not imposing my beliefs on the child, I am imposing them on myself. I will have to live knowing that I birthed it when birthing wasn't right. The rights of others are irrelevant to my decision. No entity has the right to force me into a lifetime of regret, nor occupy my body for any reason, even the preservation of their own life. If my rights do not have value enough to guarantee that I am the only one capable of making that decision, the rights of others lose all value to me.
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If you can't bear what we'll do to you under your new anti-rights laws, that'll just be too bad.
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@oscarbenigsen4538 You're just like him. Go get arrested so you can start to learn.
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@yourdad2917 Yes, I absolutely would. Look at how many people are starving in Africa. They can stop breeding whenever they'd like, I'm not about to impoverish myself for the sake of babies.
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Babies don't get to decide what goes on my medical record, and neither do you. If you disagree, when things turn violent, I think we should remove your genitals.
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@bill1589 Great, we don't mind the reprehension. Your party wants to outlaw plan B.
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Most people don't think about abortion until they need one. People can't afford much, and sex is free. They're not going to give it up, and they're willing to let you call them murderers because abortion is that much more important to them than you are.
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@kipapula6838 Fetuses are not innocent.
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@pupak7433 You sound like a great motivation to encourage liberals to support gun rights.
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@mathildeyoung1823 Harm to people that don't exist is harm that doesn't exist. I'm sorry, Mathilde, fetuses are not people and are not human beings. It is not possible to guarantee a zero percent chance of an unwanted pregnancy without unreasonable sacrifices to both partners.
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@mathildeyoung1823 Those sacrifices are up to the individual to decide whether or not to make. The fetus isn't being sacrificed, it simply isn't having another sacrifice their rights for its' sake. You cannot kill that which has not begun its' life. To truly be a member of our species, a human must be sentient and sapient; a human being.
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@mathildeyoung1823 A lot of your comments seem to have been deleted. Yes, it was a strawman. If a fetus cannot survive without essentially being on "life support" it has not attained homeostasis, and because of this, I will discuss it no further. A fetus is not alive until it has attained homeostasis, which is one of the scientific criteria for life. Thanks for the information about fertilization, I wasn't interested and it is not relevant.
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@mathildeyoung1823 Fetuses are not autonomous. All abortions preserve a woman's health, as it is far safer than childbirth. Those are all great reasons to abort, as it preserves the wellbeing of our nation.
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Nope, she's a person doing what she has to do. You're going out of your way to hurt people when you don't have to.
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