Comments by "Len" (@Len-jk4zi) on "VICE News"
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@PaxMundi118 "I believe that there are objective moral laws"
This has never been the case throughout history.
The world has always had differing views on morality, and depending on where you go and what circumstances you are in, morality changes.
Murder for example is something that can sometimes be "right" to the vast majority of people, as with theft.
"You contend that if one suffers significantly or has the potential to suffer significantly then it is justified to kill them. "
No, this is is not my position.
It is justified to kill those that wish to be killed because they are suffering, or to kill those that are inside of your body without your consent, or to choose not to give birth to a human being in the first place to prevent suffering.
"The best way to approach all of this confusion is the practical one: education, prevention, supporting existing systems, reforming those that are failing, etc"
This doesn't actually work, because your "objective moral laws" aren't objective, so people will never follow them.
People like me will always exist, we are a type of animal and we do not have laws beyond those of nature by default.
"Laws" are a contrivance.
If you lost your ability to speak English, you'd find yourself a lot less confident in those "objective moral laws", because you will have no way to preach them, and will be powerless in the face of those that don't agree or care.
"Do you think he should be pro-abortion?"
I haven't met anyone that is pro-abortion, just pro-choice.
I also haven't met anyone that is pro-life, just pro-overpopulation.
That said, I don't have any of those things, so your anecdote does not affect me.
I will have to make my predictions based on what I have, and based on my circumstances.
Miracles are statistically rare and I don't gamble with human lives.
"To say which life gets a chance and which life can be destroyed is playing God. It is assuming a moral responsibility no one rightfully possesses."
This is simply not true, there is no such thing as playing God; only being human.
Making decisions regarding life and death is something we all have to do, the modern world makes it less often that we have to make such literal decisions.
But throughout the course of our species, that responsibility has fallen on our shoulders time and time again.
You need to grow up a little if you view it as "playing god".
We have bigger issues to worry about, and judging people for being human does not help.
"Abortion, by its definition, involves another body, a body that is at risk of being eradicated."
That's where "my body, my choice" comes from.
You don't need to make that choice if another body isn't violating yours in the first place.
"But if you're honest you realize: you support killing. At least be honest."
I do not consider fetuses to be alive prior to birth, counting your chickens before they hatch is stupid.
Sentience is a crucial part of being a human being, and self awareness is vital to personhood.
We kill beings with greater sentience than a fetus by the thousand on a daily basis.
"I also believe life has intrinsic meaning and purpose (to love and be loved)."
I do not believe this.
Love is simply a method of making life more bearable, when we die it is over.
"A generation of beautiful black leaders, artists, engineers, inventors and doctors will never be."
The vast majority of people that don't exist would not have been so useful.
We can spend forever crying about what will "never be", but we have people that are already alive and are not adequately provided for.
The abortion rate is high, but you don't seem to care why.
Why not focus on making the world a better place so people willingly start to have children again?
"This is the opposite of justice."
You're right, it's childishness.
Instead of crying over spilled milk, you're crying into the fridge over milk you haven't poured.
People that exist are suffering FAR MORE than people that don't.
There is an infinite number of people that don't exist, and we cannot afford to increase our population by an infinite amount.
Resources are limited and we can only sustain our current population at what it is because of globalism, the Russia-Ukraine war has caused people to die of starvation.
Abortion is slowing the progression of this problem.
Do you have any other answers?
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@PaxMundi118 So why are those minority groups choosing abortion?
It's not abortion depopulating them, it's their choices depopulating them.
Much like any non-minority group, if given enough resources, they will willingly choose to have children.
How crappy of that specific white woman aborting purely for racial reasons.
It is absurd to claim this her racial motivations have anything to do with other people's medical decisions, though.
Blame the person, not the gun.
If you want to blame the gun, you'll have to consider ALL police racist as some of them do in fact perpetrate violence against specific racial demographics for racist reasons.
The founder of Planned Parenthood is dead.
Planned Parenthood isn't the only place women go to obtain abortions, and they're definitely not considering the agenda of a dead woman when making their own medical decisions.
A certain evil man with a narrow mustache drank water, must I swear off water too because water is anti-Semitic?
I'm not going to swear off laser eye surgery that could cure my blindness simply because it was tested on prisoners in Germany.
In a similar light, people are continuing to play Hogwarts' Legacy despite Rowling's opinions against trans people no matter their political alignment, because their intent to enjoy the game is not relevant to her political opinion.
Minorities are not suffering from abortion, they're suffering from the same thing everyone else in their financial situation is suffering from.
Poverty.
As poverty is, removing abortion as a decision for those minorities would only make their situation even worse.
It will increase discrimination against them as they are forced to populate beyond their means and resort to crime.
So here's a question for you:
Do you think abortion should only be illegal for minority groups, or is race not an issue to you?
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